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Windows Live Mail to succeed OE, WM, WLMd

Slimy   on 08 May 2007 - 23:41 · 18 comments & 4274 views

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With the launch of Windows Live Hotmail, Microsoft has announced Windows Live Mail, the desktop client that is reportedly meant to succeed Outlook Express and Vista’s Windows Mail by replacing Windows Live Mail desktop, currently in beta. The first beta build of Windows Live Mail, available in a few short weeks, is supposed to incorporate features of all three of the aforementioned applications.

With the name change there are a few features that will be added to the current WLMd software. First off, an improved user interface with Aero support will give you control of your e-mail, without any graphical advertisements. Note that the loophole for textual ads was left wide open. Setup and account migration improvements should cut down the steps to get started with the client. Taking from OE and WM, S/MIME and LDAP support will be added to WLM. The new client is also being touted as faster and more robust than WLMd. As before, Windows XP SP2 and Windows Vista will be the two supported operating systems.

News source: Windows Live Mail Blog

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(1 reply) #1 phantasmorph on 08 May 2007 - 23:45
Wish there was a way to replace OE in my XP install disks for my systems with something like this.
#1.1 rIaHc3 on 09 May 2007 - 01:06
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Wish there was a way to replace OE in my XP install disks for my systems with something like this.

Maybe nLite.
(1 reply) #2 NightmarE D on 09 May 2007 - 00:00
I took it out of my install once and installed WLMd and you get errors if you don't have OE installed. They could have at least gave the option of completely replacing OE. It's just annoying knowing that OE is still on the computer when I never actually use it.
#2.1 phantasmorph on 09 May 2007 - 00:05
I feel the same way. I use Thunderbird and Outlook 2003...I don't think I've ever started up OE once...but it's still there. I think nLite might be able to get rid of it from the installation source, but other than that, about all that can be done is removing the shortcuts. Lame. You'd think there could be some way to have an option for a new MS mail app to replace an older crappy MS mail app. =/
(2 replies) #3 Emon on 09 May 2007 - 00:20
You guys know that you can uninstall OE from Add/Remove Windows Components ..right?
#3.1 Ryan V on 09 May 2007 - 00:25
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You guys know that you can uninstall OE from Add/Remove Windows Components ..right?

That just removes the Outlook Express shortcuts.
#3.2 Croquant on 09 May 2007 - 02:04
Quote - (Ryan V said @ #3.1)
Quote - (Emon said @ #3)
You guys know that you can uninstall OE from Add/Remove Windows Components ..right?

That just removes the Outlook Express shortcuts.

Yep. Using the "Add/Remove Windows Components" entry for OE doesn't actually add or remove much of anything.
Don't believe me? Try uninstalling OE and then using a function that calls the OE executable or any of it's libraries. Hey, look at that: OE is still installed on your system after you told windows to uninstall it.
No wonder the EU is perpetually hauling Microsoft's ass into court. If I could, I would too!

IN OTHER NEWS, Mozilla Thunderbird just became the email client of choice. When asked for comment, a Mozilla Foundation spokesperson was heard to exclaim: "Bwhaaaa haaaa haaaaa..." before she gleefully threw a handful of darts at an Outlook Express promotional poster. Opera spokespersons could not be reached for comment.
(2 replies) #4 Admodieus on 09 May 2007 - 01:12
All they need to do is add a built-in calendar to WLMd and it'll be perfect.
#4.1 superhuman on 09 May 2007 - 06:50
No way, That means they kill Outlook 2007. I think anyone should buy and use Outlook. It is the best.
#4.2 +Smigit on 09 May 2007 - 08:46
how would a calendar kill Outlook? It's not like Vista doesnt have a calendar app anyway. Youd still be lacking all the Office exchange stuff.
#5 :: Lyon :: on 09 May 2007 - 01:33
Ugh ugh ugh I want the beta now huehue
(2 replies) #6 rbet on 09 May 2007 - 01:34
Atleast OE is AD-FREE. I don't want a fvcking giant advertisement when I am reading my mail. I also don't want any "Active Search" bullcrap.

I'll be moving to TBird if the WLM version we get is not ad-free.
#6.1 Tai on 09 May 2007 - 03:52
Quote - (rbet said @ #6)
Atleast OE is AD-FREE. I don't want a fvcking giant advertisement when I am reading my mail. I also don't want any "Active Search" bullcrap.

I'll be moving to TBird if the WLM version we get is not ad-free.


hmm yeah, that active search really kills it off ..was hoping a-patch might do something about it soon ...
#6.2 RealFduch on 09 May 2007 - 23:19
Quote - (rbet said @ #1)
I don't want a fvcking giant advertisement when I am reading my mail.

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First off, an improved user interface with Aero support will give you control of your e-mail, without any graphical advertisements.

#7 +rm20010 on 09 May 2007 - 04:55
This whole naming of their online and offline clients is confusing.

First the former Windows Live Mail has been renamed Windows Live Hotmail.
Now the former Windows Live Mail desktop has "desktop" dropped from it.

Despite this naming confusion, I'll look forward to the new beta. And yes for anyone complaining about ads in current day WLMd, there is a patch to remove it written by the same guy behind A-Patch.
(1 reply) #8 superhuman on 09 May 2007 - 06:48
M$ Office Outlook 2007 is the best. No more discuss. That is the bottom line
#8.1 +Smigit on 09 May 2007 - 08:49
No, its better for some. I use it because I love it and the management features but Thunderbird beats it in some areas too. Namely for me TB always has started faster and also supports Newsgroups. I also would argue that TB's spam blocker does a better job.

I think overall Outlook is the best but if you want a pure mail clint then for many the cost and extra weight of outlook comparred to smaller clients isnt worth it.
#9 wilbert on 09 May 2007 - 16:37
Ok, I am confused...

I thought that the new Windows Live Mail Desktop has been out in beta for over a year? Are they scrapping the current beta program and creating a new one?

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