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Slimy   on 25 May 2007 - 22:14 · 51 comments & 18648 views

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A new Apple regulation states you can no longer access MySpace.com on any of the Macs on display in the 5th Avenue Apple Store in New York City. When an attempt is made to load MySpace's Web site, the Safari browser delayed and failed to load it. According to a statement from Apple: "nearly 2 million people visit Apple stores every week. We want to provide everyone a chance to test-drive a Mac, so we are no longer offering access to MySpace in our stores." The News Corporation-owned MySpace is the only site that has been blocked. Heavy MySpace use was simply getting in the way of business.

An Apple Store employee (who does not work in the Fifth Avenue store), confirmed this has been an ongoing problem: "MySpace is a big issue for the Apple stores because people come in, Photobooth themselves (using Macs' built-in webcams), then stick their picture up on their MySpace account and loiter at machines for hours. It is especially troublesome at the flagships and high-volume stores, and for a while there was no official word on how to deal with it."

News source: Crave

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(2 replies) #1 PureLegend on 25 May 2007 - 22:16
"Dude, this Mac sucks, it can't do MySpace"
#1.1 KeR on 25 May 2007 - 22:17
I can actually see someone thinking that.
#1.2 webeagle12 on 26 May 2007 - 05:10
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I can actually see someone thinking that.


well that person need some serious help
(1 reply) #2 drygnfyre on 25 May 2007 - 22:21
So it's only in effect at the NYC Apple Stores? Honestly, I'd like to see it banned at my local Apple Store. I can't even get in there anymore, it's always crammed with kids on MySpace, kids who have no interest in buying a Mac themselves, they just want a computer with free Internet access at the mall...
#2.1 ir0nw0lf on 25 May 2007 - 22:29
ROFL, kids wanting a free lunch/ride. Shocking.
#3 MetalloX on 25 May 2007 - 22:24
Dude , this myspace sucks ,they can't do mac
(2 replies) #4 pyehac on 25 May 2007 - 22:42
Thank god. Hopefully they'll do it for all of their stores - then I can go back to an Apple store and play on the Macs in peace.
#4.1 ArtOf_War on 25 May 2007 - 22:53
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Troll elsewhere

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#4.2 raskren on 26 May 2007 - 01:31
Aren't the people who got "banned" playing on Macs as well?
(2 replies) #5 Mr. Dee on 25 May 2007 - 22:53
Kudos to Apple, I can imagine how annoying that must be. Legit customers come to check out the systems before they make a purchase, but can't because of annoying kids. I bet they are also rude too when an Apple employee ask them to give the computer a break politely, while mop head looks back at him and says "what-ever"!

I call these people, wastrels!
#5.1 Lt-DavidW on 25 May 2007 - 23:01
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while mop head looks back at him and says "what-ever"

That's sooooo 2002!

Yeah I know, that wasn't even funny...
#5.2 freeeekyyy on 26 May 2007 - 15:48
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while mop head looks back at him and says "what-ever"

That's sooooo 2002!

Yeah I know, that wasn't even funny...

Then why'd you say it?
#6 plastikaa on 25 May 2007 - 23:07
people don't exactly need to test drive the internet from a mac... they could pretty much just make their own site accessible and block all other sites... then if you really really have good reason to check something out you could ask, and the staff could unblock you temporarily.

Went to an apple shop once, played around to see what they were like, ooops it froze on me, never went back.
#7 Galley on 25 May 2007 - 23:13
Why would anyone want to visit MySpace.com anyway?
(4 replies) #8 +DrCheese on 25 May 2007 - 23:16
huh? Suprised they offer Internet access in store. It leaves them open for so much abuse, i.e a random person openning a porn site and minimizing it until a young kid sees it or something.

Most PC retail stores here don't have public Internet and often shops will have passworded screensavers so that staff are required before using a PC.
#8.1 eAi on 26 May 2007 - 00:14
I imagine they already block porn sites. Its clearly a risk though. I imagine store employees are told to keep an eye out on things.

In the Regents Street store in London, most people seem to use the computers for email.

I imagine that Apple see this as a good thing - it gets people familiar with their computers, plus it makes them look good offering free internet access.

Obviously, there has to be a limit - I can't really see what else they could do except for banning myspace if it really was causing a large percentage of the computers to be in use.
#8.2 phiberoptik on 26 May 2007 - 01:04
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I imagine they already block porn sites. Its clearly a risk though. I imagine store employees are told to keep an eye out on things.

In the Regents Street store in London, most people seem to use the computers for email.

I imagine that Apple see this as a good thing - it gets people familiar with their computers, plus it makes them look good offering free internet access.

Obviously, there has to be a limit - I can't really see what else they could do except for banning myspace if it really was causing a large percentage of the computers to be in use.


They can't block all the porn sites... it's not possible.... take phonetrace.(you know the ending if you know what I'm talking about) as an example.. NSFW DO NOT GO THERE
#8.3 eAi on 26 May 2007 - 16:37
Quote - (phiberoptik said @ #8.2)
Quote - (eAi said @ #8.1)
I imagine they already block porn sites. Its clearly a risk though. I imagine store employees are told to keep an eye out on things.

In the Regents Street store in London, most people seem to use the computers for email.

I imagine that Apple see this as a good thing - it gets people familiar with their computers, plus it makes them look good offering free internet access.

Obviously, there has to be a limit - I can't really see what else they could do except for banning myspace if it really was causing a large percentage of the computers to be in use.


They can't block all the porn sites... it's not possible.... take phonetrace.(you know the ending if you know what I'm talking about) as an example.. NSFW DO NOT GO THERE
Of course you can't, that doesn't mean they don't try, does it?
#8.4 Mistwaver on 26 May 2007 - 16:47
Quote - (phiberoptik said @ #8.2)
Quote - (eAi said @ #8.1)
I imagine they already block porn sites. Its clearly a risk though. I imagine store employees are told to keep an eye out on things.

In the Regents Street store in London, most people seem to use the computers for email.

I imagine that Apple see this as a good thing - it gets people familiar with their computers, plus it makes them look good offering free internet access.

Obviously, there has to be a limit - I can't really see what else they could do except for banning myspace if it really was causing a large percentage of the computers to be in use.


They can't block all the porn sites... it's not possible.... take phonetrace.(you know the ending if you know what I'm talking about) as an example.. NSFW DO NOT GO THERE


No, they can't block all "porn" sites, but what they can do is block all websites, and set an "allowed" list.
#9 kyro on 25 May 2007 - 23:26
muwahahahahah ... i love apple moreee
#10 aStRaLgOd on 25 May 2007 - 23:26
Sounds logical...
#11 Toology on 26 May 2007 - 00:26
I always walk past the Apple Store only to see kids going on MySpace. Then they get mad because a store employee tells them to f**k off so that he can actually demonstrate something on the computers to a paying customer. The ban is justified.
#12 RAID 0 on 26 May 2007 - 01:00
It's their store.
#13 Giga on 26 May 2007 - 01:43
Good to hear.
(3 replies) #14 Elite_graphix on 26 May 2007 - 02:24
wouldnt entering a unique proxy and dns server get around this?
#14.1 Mr. Dee on 26 May 2007 - 03:00
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wouldnt entering a unique proxy and dns server get around this?


Unless the Network applet under System Preference is unlocked. Obviously it must be locked since its in a public setting, so if you are going to edit it, you will have to enter the Administrative username and password. The same applies to User Accounts. So its a win-win for Apple.
#14.2 K3vlar on 26 May 2007 - 04:13
You wouldn't even have to enter a unique proxy. Just go to a site like http://www.freetoview.net/, and surf via their servers. That is, until they block that one. But there are millions of 'em out there...

I suppose on the other hand, a kid smart enough to use a proxy like that wouldn't be using myspace anyways. The website disgusts me, frankly.
#14.3 freeeekyyy on 26 May 2007 - 16:01
Quote - (K3vlar said @ #14.2)
You wouldn't even have to enter a unique proxy. Just go to a site like http://www.freetoview.net/, and surf via their servers. That is, until they block that one. But there are millions of 'em out there...

I suppose on the other hand, a kid smart enough to use a proxy like that wouldn't be using myspace anyways. The website disgusts me, frankly.



EVERYONE uses myspace. Plenty of people "Smart enough" to do that use it. Not that it takes alot of intelligence to enter an url into the address bar, anyways.
(1 reply) #15 +CrimsonRedMk on 26 May 2007 - 02:30
I'm just wondering, when you do try to access MySpace on the Macs, does some type of page explaining exactly why it's blocked pop up? Or are our the addicted (to MySpace) left in the dark?

Plus, I'll bet Microsoft is in some form going to give internet access to all Windows box retailers and say, "Look, it works with MySpace!"
#15.1 +Kirkburn on 26 May 2007 - 02:54
You're confused. That is what Apple would do. Microsoft normally ignores Apple.
(3 replies) #16 black_death on 26 May 2007 - 04:41
If there world's most advanced operating system cant even handle viewing myspace then why would someone want to buy your over priced computer?
#16.1 NeoTrunks on 26 May 2007 - 05:05
Myspace works just fine on a Mac. Did you read the article? Sometimes, Myspace does crap out, on any browswer, due to problems on their own end. The site now fails to load because they blocked it.

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#16.2 vetRitsuke on 26 May 2007 - 07:09
#16.3 black_death on 26 May 2007 - 22:17
I know what the article said, it was a joke.....
(2 replies) #17 12Iceman on 26 May 2007 - 06:29
Once the myspace users figure out what a proxy is, I am sure they will be back.
#17.1 +Dakkaroth on 26 May 2007 - 08:27
HAHAHAHAA!!! Yeah, like THAT will happen.

What's next? They read the news? Pfftt.. lol. This made my day.
#17.2 Glassed Silver on 26 May 2007 - 09:00
apple might have blocked that too ....
to even set a proxy i mean

Glassed Silver:mac
#18 wctaiwan on 26 May 2007 - 10:24
Good job Apple.

As for looking at inappropriate material in an Apple Store, I'd imagine there are employees around to stop anyone that does it. I suppose they have to block MySpace just because it's not really inappropriate but access to it is easily abused.

wctaiwan
#19 rIaHc3 on 26 May 2007 - 12:17
I don't understand. If the PCs are there to try out, then any potential costumer has all the right to try out the PC, even if it means takes pictures of oneself (testing the webcam) and uploading to something as stupid as MySpace (testing performance). I only respect MySpace in the matter that artists and independent artists release their music thru there.
When I didn't have Vista, I went to a PC store to try it out. Just viewed a couple of legal videos on the desktop about trailers, viewed some games, etc. Then when I opened Paint, a employee came from the back room and told me that I couldn't touch the computers. I asked him then why can't I when they are opened, turned on, and without any plastic protection (stores have the keyboard part of the laptop usually in a plastic box so you can't touch) and I see no signs of "No Touching" or anything. I've never seen that employee again and I touch them everyday I’m around there and no one says anything.
This has to do with employees being employees, people that try to sell you the product not guards or anything else.
#20 Samboini on 26 May 2007 - 12:55
MySpace... shudder.
#21 Julius Caro on 26 May 2007 - 13:16
I'd say, block it, let people think it just simply doesn't load and don't make a big deal out of it.
#22 plastikaa on 26 May 2007 - 13:25
Anyone who argues whether Mac or Windows is better, should know enough about computers to be able to the agree myspace is pathetic.

On a side note, I still detest Apple for its advertising... they sum Windows under the title PC (personal computer!? whats a Mac?), if you want to say Windows in an advert just say it, dont beat around the bush for fear of being sued or something.

If I go into a Apple store and say Im looking for a new PC do they point you to another store that sells computers with Windows or what happens? I suspect not, if they do - then sure I dont mind them carrying on advertising how they do, if they try and sell you a Mac arent they mis advertising? - someone should sue them for this im sure.
#23 foobah on 26 May 2007 - 14:42
Thank fcuk for that. I hope they ban it here in the UK too. And hotmail.com
I got to a store to try out new stuff, and it's fully of people one f-ing myspace, messenger or hotmail.com 'tying out the pc's. . . .
I mean, do people actually use MySpace any more, or is it just emo teens using it ? No one even needs access to the web to try out a mac - do they think the net will look any different (ok safari colourspace stuff excluded) on a mac??
God these people **** me off. They go in at lunch, do some email and listen to music, then go. WTF
#24 Mistwaver on 26 May 2007 - 16:42
They will get less visitors now. It sounds like to me the access of MySpace on the computers in their store largely contributed to the number of visitors they were getting. If something is increasing your amount of visitors, why put a stop to it?

I used to like Apple, now I'm beginning to believe they wre bigger hypocrits than Microsoft is.
(2 replies) #25 bfly871 on 26 May 2007 - 18:17
macs suk anyway y do u card
#25.1 RAID 0 on 26 May 2007 - 23:39
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macs suk anyway y do u card


Who's carding?
#25.2 Cole on 27 May 2007 - 03:54
At least macs can spell.
(3 replies) #26 Atlonite on 27 May 2007 - 14:06
if it was my store i'd have to ask are you going to buy that and if you said NO i'd have to ask you please F*** off then you sodding time waster go on get out before i mac daddy my foot up your A hole
#26.1 C_Guy on 28 May 2007 - 16:19
Mmm. Nice. And I suppose the potential customers who see you behave like that will be eager to support your store. Look, you want to put these Macs out on display for people to play with then this is what will happen. Sure its frustrating (and kind of sad) but if you lock it down too much they will become dis-interested. Good for the loiterers but bad for potential customers.

I wonder who made the decision that the child predator haven (MySpace) was the worst offender. Is HotMail next? What about LiveJournal or Fecebook? What about instant messaging programs? You can't take too much away though or you might start discouraging potential customers.
#26.2 +mrbester on 29 May 2007 - 09:10
Shades of "Falling Down" here: "Management reserves the right". If you look like someone who is just using display computers to do personal stuff then you aren't intending to buy. Bouncing onto MySpace falls under that aegis, but if employees can't manage the shop floor then there's something else wrong, not just freeloaders taking advantage. Compare with Dixons (cheap tat electrical store in UK): you can't do anything with the machines on display as all they do is have an informative(! ) screensaver running along the lines of "hey this machine roolz! Buy it now!" with a password lock. I don't see Dixons complaining about lack of sales of PCs due to a simple lockout; if you want to know more you grab a minion to "demonstrate" it to you.
#26.3 Chad on 30 May 2007 - 22:56
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Mmm. Nice. And I suppose the potential customers who see you behave like that will be eager to support your store. Look, you want to put these Macs out on display for people to play with then this is what will happen. Sure its frustrating (and kind of sad) but if you lock it down too much they will become dis-interested. Good for the loiterers but bad for potential customers.

I wonder who made the decision that the child predator haven (MySpace) was the worst offender. Is HotMail next? What about LiveJournal or Fecebook? What about instant messaging programs? You can't take too much away though or you might start discouraging potential customers.


You can't possibly think that blocking those sites will keep people from buying the Mac. People that go to those sites in the Apple store aren't there to buy....they are there to hang out with friends and use the free internet.

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