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Legalized Blu-ray, HD DVD Copying Coming Soon

Slimy   on 25 May 2007 - 15:09 · 21 comments & 5082 views

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The Advanced Access Content System Licensing Administration says that it is now working to provide "managed copy" features on the media that uses its protection technology. HD DVD had plans to implement managed copy as part of its specification (a main reason why Microsoft and Intel stood behind the format) but Blu-ray Disc had thus far ignored the concept. The final version of AACS will supposedly introduce methods for users to legally copy their high definition media. "The final version will include things like managed copy - which will address the main thing that hackers claim they're interested in," said Michael Ayers, spokesperson for the AACS LA.

Currently, those who wish to do more with their HD content other than just play it straight off the disc must resort to using hacker-discovered processing keys or similar software, which are used to completely defeat the AACS protection. The AACS is hoping that managed copy features will increase sales and acceptance of high-definition optical media. "Studios will have to take that into account when they select pricing. We are optimistic that the studios will see this as a benefit that will drive sales" said Ayers.

The technicalities surrounding just how the AACS LA plans to accomplish legal copying are still unclear. "The structure of managed copy, how it's technically going to work, what will the rules and conditions for the offer of a managed copy be - part of it is just understanding the rights in offering a managed copy, the rights a content owner may or may not have. Potentially, you could have a situation where somebody has the right to distribute on disc, but nothing else; or, the distribution rights are limited to a specific region or continent," explains Ayers.

News source: DailyTech

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(8 replies) #1 PureLegend on 25 May 2007 - 15:19
If I can play it on my portable devices, I can only see this as excellent news. This way, the studios are happy and I'm happy
#1.1 Samboini on 25 May 2007 - 16:11
Because your portable device has a 20"+ high definition screen? Didn't think so!
#1.2 Sheppard on 25 May 2007 - 16:56
Quote - (Samboini said @ #1.1)
Because your portable device has a 20"+ high definition screen? Didn't think so!


and if you had an ounce of sense youd realise that its a Portable Sized resolution for those that want to watch it on the go, its not the full sized high definition version.
#1.3 Samboini on 25 May 2007 - 17:12
So then you do not need to buy the HD disc do you.
#1.4 PureLegend on 25 May 2007 - 17:35
1. It's easier to rip with this thing
2. I only have to buy the film once
3. What if I hook up my portable device to a HDTV or similar source?
#1.5 Samboini on 25 May 2007 - 17:48
If you hook your device upto a HDTV then the quality will be atrocious, it will be in some poor resolution like 320x240. The only way to get around this is too put it on your media device in HD format (if it supports it) which even at 100GB you would only fit a few films on.

Your point about only buying the film once is all well and valid, just got to hope HD-DVD wins otherwise you will have to buy the format twice, once in HD, once in Blu-Ray and both 3x the price of a normal DVD. Eek.
#1.6 Sheppard on 25 May 2007 - 17:58
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So then you do not need to buy the HD disc do you.

Not everyone watches a film just once, i like to buy dvds and watch them quite a few times, this is just an extension of that ability, being able to take it on holiday or wherever.
#1.7 ThaCrip on 25 May 2007 - 22:49
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Quote - (Samboini said @ #1.3)
So then you do not need to buy the HD disc do you.

Not everyone watches a film just once, i like to buy dvds and watch them quite a few times, this is just an extension of that ability, being able to take it on holiday or wherever.


i agree, when i like a film i tend to watch it many many times and not get tired of it... people who cant do this (atleast with the better films out there (which will vary depending on what you like) ) i dont really consider movie fans myself.

cause if your gonna buy a movie and only watch it once you would be better off just renting it.
#1.8 theyarecomingforyou on 28 May 2007 - 17:59
Quote - (ThaCrip said @ #1.7)
when i like a film i tend to watch it many many times and not get tired of it... people who cant do this (atleast with the better films out there (which will vary depending on what you like) ) i dont really consider movie fans myself.

I don't care whether you consider me a "movie fan" or not... your opinion means nothing to me and I disagree anyway. I watch movies for entertainment / enjoyment - watching a film too many times means you know exactly what's coming and it is less exciting. I often wait several years before watching some of my favourite movies again - that way they are more fresh and there is more emotion / excitement to them. I have no interest in memorising every line, knowing what scene is next or analysing every scene for the smallest detail. You don't have to be a "movie fan" to appreciate movies. You don't have to be an art fan to appreciate fine art.

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cause if your gonna buy a movie and only watch it once you would be better off just renting it.

No. I like to support the people that make films I like. The number of times I watch it is irrelevant - I will buy a film if I like it. I don't agree with your viewpoint at all.
#2 M.F.D.K on 25 May 2007 - 15:28
Duh is going to be legalized, becomes they can't keep up with the hackers. Its cost free to make it legalized than spending money trying to keep the hackers away.
#3 +Kushan on 25 May 2007 - 15:46
I'd rather just copy my HD-DVD's or BR's by using a program that'll rip the DRM crap from them.
(1 reply) #4 +Shadrack on 25 May 2007 - 15:58
I would like more clarification as to what the difference between "Managed Copy" and DRMless would be.
#4.1 Sheppard on 25 May 2007 - 16:58
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I would like more clarification as to what the difference between "Managed Copy" and DRMless would be.

Basically a managed copy is a DRM ridden version of the film, on a disc for example you will have the option to make x amount of copies of the film, none will be the same quality and resolution of the original, they will be DVD sized for computers, or ones formatted for a Portable device such as zune or ipod assuming they support the DRM.

It also has been said that the content providers could offer the "managed copy" at a premium, so you are basically paying for something which you already have.

DRMless means you can do with it what you please, leave it full quality, make as many copies for your portable devices or your media center.
(1 reply) #5 illz55 on 25 May 2007 - 15:58
No matter what they do, they'll still maintain complete control. I'll just stick with the wonderful Slysoft and their software.
#5.1 ThaCrip on 25 May 2007 - 22:59
i gotta agree here quite a bit! ... cause the bottom line is slysoft is still the "best" option for the consumer! .. this way "WE" have controll over what we do with it and not them greedy f**ks.

basically, slysoft = gets rid of the bs and makes it nice and simple to do with it as we see fit.
#6 The_Decryptor on 25 May 2007 - 16:48
This is only one of the things i want, i also want to be able to play the disks under Linux.
#7 jasondefaoite on 25 May 2007 - 17:25
"Studios will have to take that into account when they select pricing" ... Something tells me this part won't be to the benefit of the consumer ...
#8 Glassed Silver on 25 May 2007 - 17:37
"The final version will include things like managed copy - which will address the main thing that hackers claim they're interested in," said Michael Ayers

hackers won't give a sh*t about being able to copy it without tools...
darnit...
good idea, but still this is poo if you ask me

Glassed Silver:mac
#9 mel00 on 25 May 2007 - 18:32
studio are bunch greedy fcks...
they won't let happen or they going make annoying to to rip or copy.
#10 Julius Caro on 25 May 2007 - 19:32
They will have to give up on DRM eventually.
#11 +petroid on 26 May 2007 - 04:29
But I still wont be able to watch HDDVD's in full resolution over my Component video. This is why I have not purchased any HD stuff.

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