The People's Liberation Army in China is building up its cyberwarfare capabilities according to a report from the Department of Defense. DoD has found that the PLA, the largest standing army in the world, has established information warfare units geared to developing viruses that can attack enemy computer systems and networks. The National Defense Authorization Act of 2000 mandates that the secretary of defense make an annual report to Congress on the current and future military strategy of the People's Republic of China. This year's report noted that China is making a significant push out of the traditional warfare areas (land, air, and sea) to a more "modern battlefield" of space and cyberspace. "The PLA sees [computer network operations] as critical to achieving 'electromagnetic dominance' early in a conflict," said the report, adding that China is focused on developing the ability to disrupt battlefield information systems.
Defense researchers noted that China's focus on preparing for military contingencies in the Taiwan Strait, including the possibility of a U.S. intervention, appears to be an important driver of its modernization efforts. "The pace and scope of China's military transformation has increased in recent years, fueled by continued high rates of investment in its domestic defense and science and technology industries, acquisition of advanced foreign weapons, and far reaching reforms of the armed forces," the report states. The DOD also reported that while China is focused on preparing for potential conflict in the Taiwan Strait, it's also "surveying the strategic landscape beyond Taiwan."
News source: InformationWeek
Defense researchers noted that China's focus on preparing for military contingencies in the Taiwan Strait, including the possibility of a U.S. intervention, appears to be an important driver of its modernization efforts. "The pace and scope of China's military transformation has increased in recent years, fueled by continued high rates of investment in its domestic defense and science and technology industries, acquisition of advanced foreign weapons, and far reaching reforms of the armed forces," the report states. The DOD also reported that while China is focused on preparing for potential conflict in the Taiwan Strait, it's also "surveying the strategic landscape beyond Taiwan."
News source: InformationWeek
Once again the U.S. Government is b1tchin and moanin about something it motivated in the first place.
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Isn't it, at the end of the day, basically an intramural thing? Taiwan was what was left held by the Nationalist forces after the Reds took the mainland?
(damn absolutely worthless American 'World History' courses never mentioning anything east of the Urals)
I'd argue that our continued presence has basically kept a 50-year-old conflict unsettled and probably led to a lot greater world tension, than if we had just let the Maoists have Taipei from day one.
wctaiwan
We have more serious crap to solve. People in the world gotta stop asking for other people to cover their own asses after they do random ****. And we Americans gotta stop butting into things half way across the globe.
I mean come on, if Taiwan really want to be away from mainland so badly that it would rather sacrifice so many lives, build an army strong enough to fight China off. Doing random ****-throwing (I mean literally, just look at their congress) and wishing that the US will send it's children to die for your childish act is just too naive.
wctaiwan
I'm sorry that there are people who feel that way, wctaiwan - unfortunately, some idiots in America and the UK have no comprehension as to what life is like outside of their own borders. They are the kind of people that would act like ostriches and put their heads into the sand at the first moment that there was any sign of trouble, and think that the world's problems can be solved by flowers, rainbows and sitting down and talking about things. They have no comprehension that there actually ARE evil people in the world, like North Korea's Kim Jong Il. They have a slanted and somewhat twisted view of the world due to their intellectual brainwashing from leftist/neo-communist/socialst educators.
They would have to nuke us to death though. I mean, most everybody in the US has guns so an Invasion would be brutal for China.
At this point I think China would be destroyed. You can't determine the strength of a military based on actual numbers anymore. Its a combination of intelligence, training, men, equipment and technology. Hell, they're just now getting an aircraft carrier! Their fancy military parades shown on TV are nothing more than penis flaunting. Our enemies feel the need to saber rattle because they know our military is bogged down in Iraq. China will however become a serious threat within the next 10-15 years IMO. Right now, they're playing nice while they get their house in order. What makes me sick is 20 years ago, we wouldn't even be dealing with a communist regime and now they're tolerated for some reason.
Reason is they are a cheap source of labour and therefore provide profits for corporations.
At this point I think China would be destroyed. You can't determine the strength of a military based on actual numbers anymore. Its a combination of intelligence, training, men, equipment and technology. Hell, they're just now getting an aircraft carrier! Their fancy military parades shown on TV are nothing more than penis flaunting. Our enemies feel the need to saber rattle because they know our military is bogged down in Iraq. China will however become a serious threat within the next 10-15 years IMO. Right now, they're playing nice while they get their house in order. What makes me sick is 20 years ago, we wouldn't even be dealing with a communist regime and now they're tolerated for some reason.
first of all, even a well trained army can't survive a well fought guerilla war, Iraq is a great example of that. The rebels are kicking america's but at the moment. If the US were to invade China it would turn out to be a disaster for them. So no, you couldn't wipe them out.
Secondly, the cold war was all about tolerating each other within certain limits, nothing has changed, money is still the factor deciding everything
At this point I think China would be destroyed. You can't determine the strength of a military based on actual numbers anymore. Its a combination of intelligence, training, men, equipment and technology. Hell, they're just now getting an aircraft carrier! Their fancy military parades shown on TV are nothing more than penis flaunting. Our enemies feel the need to saber rattle because they know our military is bogged down in Iraq. China will however become a serious threat within the next 10-15 years IMO. Right now, they're playing nice while they get their house in order. What makes me sick is 20 years ago, we wouldn't even be dealing with a communist regime and now they're tolerated for some reason.
first of all, even a well trained army can't survive a well fought guerilla war, Iraq is a great example of that. The rebels are kicking america's but at the moment. If the US were to invade China it would turn out to be a disaster for them. So no, you couldn't wipe them out.
Secondly, the cold war was all about tolerating each other within certain limits, nothing has changed, money is still the factor deciding everything
The US isn't losing anything in iraq. Show me any proof the US has lost an engagement. You wouldn't just set foot on China and take it from the beginning, you soften them up first. I'm not saying they would be easy to take, just that they'd lose in the end.
The US isn't loosing in Iraq? Holy crap, what are you smoking? They're sure not wining.
The US isn't loosing in Iraq? Holy crap, what are you smoking? They're sure not wining.
This is the problem with the media. They never report progress, because that doesn't attract viewers. Again, show me any proof that the US has lost just one military engagement with the iraqi insurgents. We didn't lose Vietnam militarily, we lost psychologically. Our enemy managed to turn the will of the people against the government and we lost our resolve. Al-Queda, Iran and Syria are attempting to reproduce this same result in Iraq. I must admit, they're doing an excellent job. Those stupid idiots that got control of the House and Senate have already decided the war's outcome for us. Bin Laden must sit in his cave just laughing his ass off at Nancy Palosi, Harry Reid, Charlie Wrangle, etc. They're doing all the work for him. Seriously, if I was a Democrat, I'd be ashamed of myself. First 100 hours my ass.....
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The US isn't tight or loose.
(Dammit can't anyone spell "lose" anymore? Liberal schools I guess.)
If the US fought like in WWII and don't care about minimizing civilian casualties you'd better believe what's happening in Iraq would be very different. What is happening now is precisely why you can't fight a politically correct war.
China would be a different story entirely. They don't breed a society that thinks suicide bombing is acceptable.
At this point I think China would be destroyed. You can't determine the strength of a military based on actual numbers anymore. Its a combination of intelligence, training, men, equipment and technology. Hell, they're just now getting an aircraft carrier! Their fancy military parades shown on TV are nothing more than penis flaunting. Our enemies feel the need to saber rattle because they know our military is bogged down in Iraq. China will however become a serious threat within the next 10-15 years IMO. Right now, they're playing nice while they get their house in order. What makes me sick is 20 years ago, we wouldn't even be dealing with a communist regime and now they're tolerated for some reason.
first of all, even a well trained army can't survive a well fought guerilla war, Iraq is a great example of that. The rebels are kicking america's but at the moment. If the US were to invade China it would turn out to be a disaster for them. So no, you couldn't wipe them out.
Secondly, the cold war was all about tolerating each other within certain limits, nothing has changed, money is still the factor deciding everything
The only reason our guys are getting killed over there is because there is no real mission other than to keep peace. We are out in the open making sure everyone gets along, but at the same time that makes the army vulnerable to attacks because the enemy can hide, we can't. Also I'm pretty sure that the insurgent body count is much higher than the military's. How often do you hear about an insurgent getting killed? Not very often.
Do you remember the beginning of the Iraq war? It took us about 1 month and Saddam no longer had control of his military. If the military has an attainable objective, unlike the Iraq War now, then we won't have much trouble. Trying to keep peace between a bunch of savages is just insane and impossible.
China, if I'm not mistaken, has a trump card that they can play on us at any time. I'm speaking of course of this:
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
I'm not quite sure of the exact amount, but I'm fairly sure a lot of that is bonds given to China, that they can cash at anytime. If they decided to do that instead of an actual war, we might have some economic problems.
Pure theory, however, as I'm sure if we were about to go to war we might just say, "You can't have your money". But, if we did that, and theoretically "won" that war, then we'd never be able to borrow money from anyone ever again, as nobody would trust us, and then we'd be dried out and lose in the long term.
I think it's best we stayed on friendly terms with China, at least until our debt is paid.
was in Korea...when they sent waves of thousands of chinese...only to have to 'reorder' body bags by the thousands.
Every heard of a Farady Cage, you genius?
Seriously though, I hope mankind has moved on and two large countries such as China and USA can set aside their differences and live in peace...ok as if that's going to happen...who's up for a Chinese?
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