The IT systems supporting the upcoming 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing, China, will not be using Windows Vista, Microsoft's latest operating system.
Instead, the computing hardware will run on Windows XP, according to Xie Long, director of Olympic sponsorship for Lenovo's Olympic Business Department. Lenovo will sponsor computer equipment including desktops, notebooks and servers for the mega sporting event, which will be held in August next year.
Speaking to reporters at a briefing held here Tuesday, Xie explained that the list of computing equipment for the Beijing Olympics was finalized almost three years ago, when "Vista was not even born".
Xie added that Lenovo began providing the hardware to the BOCOG (Beijing Organizing Committee for the Games of the XXIX Olympiad) two and a half years ago--"even before the Turino Games". Lenovo was the computer hardware sponsor for the 2006 Winter Olympics held in the Italian city of Turin.
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Instead, the computing hardware will run on Windows XP, according to Xie Long, director of Olympic sponsorship for Lenovo's Olympic Business Department. Lenovo will sponsor computer equipment including desktops, notebooks and servers for the mega sporting event, which will be held in August next year.
Speaking to reporters at a briefing held here Tuesday, Xie explained that the list of computing equipment for the Beijing Olympics was finalized almost three years ago, when "Vista was not even born".
Xie added that Lenovo began providing the hardware to the BOCOG (Beijing Organizing Committee for the Games of the XXIX Olympiad) two and a half years ago--"even before the Turino Games". Lenovo was the computer hardware sponsor for the 2006 Winter Olympics held in the Italian city of Turin.
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and anyways i overall dont see what the big deal is anyways? ... cause either vista or xp.. what does it really matter for olympics?
Also - You're screweing your customers over.
How so?
Also - You're screweing your customers over.
If you want to be aggressive... can't you spell?
Some group policy objects don't apply to Vista which makes Vista workstations not behave the same way as XP ones. Rather than my customer having to pay yet again for someone to look at implementing Vista into their domain they can continue to use XP for now. Are you saying then that places like Dell that started to only sell Vista machines then backtracked and started to offer XP machines again are also "screweing" their customers?
Also - You're screweing your customers over.
If you want to be aggressive... can't you spell?
Some group policy objects don't apply to Vista which makes Vista workstations not behave the same way as XP ones. Rather than my customer having to pay yet again for someone to look at implementing Vista into their domain they can continue to use XP for now. Are you saying then that places like Dell that started to only sell Vista machines then backtracked and started to offer XP machines again are also "screweing" their customers?
Keep in mind that most people on Neowin never work in IT, and if they do, they never do at any decision making level. If and when they climb the IT ladder, their decision making criteria will change or they will be unemployed. I, too, do not recommend Vista for anyone yet... but then again I don't work in Best Buy and am not the neighborhood "geek."
"Never do at any decision making level"? Eh, speak for yourself. I make IT decisions together with another guy for 30 people here. I think MANY others on Neowin do. This is a frickin IT community if you haven't noticed. We have people from e.g. Microsoft and other software companies here on Neowin as well. It's among the largest Windows communities on the web, so don't be shocked by the diversity of Windows users you find here.
??? Watch out, it's Captain Assumption. :p
"Never do at any decision making level"? Eh, speak for yourself. I make IT decisions together with another guy for 30 people here. I think MANY others on Neowin do. This is a frickin IT community if you haven't noticed. We have people from e.g. Microsoft and other software companies here on Neowin as well. It's among the largest Windows communities on the web, so don't be shocked by the diversity of Windows users you find here.
??? Watch out, it's Captain Assumption. :p
So you would say most??? You think most people at Neowin make IT decisions for companies and people everyday? We are both using vague words, but given the perceived demographic, there cannot be that many people here in IT management. You make decisions for 30, I help make decisions for over 25,000. Either way, the criteria for those decisions should be the same (e.g. ROI, ether through cost savings or productivity gains). If you are not focused on those criteria, you won't make it in management within the industry... period. There is no assumption there. I can understand your point, and there is diversity here, but I don't think there are many people here writing the checks to move a company or organization to a new OS.
Also - You're screweing your customers over.
Some group policy objects don't apply to Vista which makes Vista workstations not behave the same way as XP ones
The reason for this is because Vista has new policies that replace a lot of the older ones and the policies are also created differently (not ADM's) The solution is to use the Group Policy Object Editor built into Vista to edit domain policies instead of GPMC on the server. Also, recomending that clients do not update to Vista because of policies alone is silly because at some point someone will have to set up the policies. A more reasonable answer would be that the client's hardware or software does not meet the requirements of Vista or that deploying Vista at this particular time does not provide an acceptable ROI from the current solution.
"Never do at any decision making level"? Eh, speak for yourself. I make IT decisions together with another guy for 30 people here. I think MANY others on Neowin do. This is a frickin IT community if you haven't noticed. We have people from e.g. Microsoft and other software companies here on Neowin as well. It's among the largest Windows communities on the web, so don't be shocked by the diversity of Windows users you find here.
??? Watch out, it's Captain Assumption. :p
So you would say most??? You think most people at Neowin make IT decisions for companies and people everyday? We are both using vague words, but given the perceived demographic, there cannot be that many people here in IT management. You make decisions for 30, I help make decisions for over 25,000. Either way, the criteria for those decisions should be the same (e.g. ROI, ether through cost savings or productivity gains). If you are not focused on those criteria, you won't make it in management within the industry... period. There is no assumption there. I can understand your point, and there is diversity here, but I don't think there are many people here writing the checks to move a company or organization to a new OS.
Start a poll if it's that big of a deal..... BTW I feel sorry for those 25,000 lol
..... BTW I feel sorry for those 25,000 lol
Why would you say that?
This isn't an IT community...it's an enthusiast community. A quick read through the forums makes it abundantly clear that betasp is right on. Those making IT decisions for companies are rare here.
I haven't heard of one company of any significance in the IT industry that has switched to Vista. I heard rumors that AMD may have, but haven't seen any proof yet.
"Never do at any decision making level"? Eh, speak for yourself. I make IT decisions together with another guy for 30 people here. I think MANY others on Neowin do. This is a frickin IT community if you haven't noticed. We have people from e.g. Microsoft and other software companies here on Neowin as well. It's among the largest Windows communities on the web, so don't be shocked by the diversity of Windows users you find here.
??? Watch out, it's Captain Assumption. :p
So you would say most??? You think most people at Neowin make IT decisions for companies and people everyday? We are both using vague words, but given the perceived demographic, there cannot be that many people here in IT management. You make decisions for 30, I help make decisions for over 25,000. Either way, the criteria for those decisions should be the same (e.g. ROI, ether through cost savings or productivity gains). If you are not focused on those criteria, you won't make it in management within the industry... period. There is no assumption there. I can understand your point, and there is diversity here, but I don't think there are many people here writing the checks to move a company or organization to a new OS.
Start a poll if it's that big of a deal..... BTW I feel sorry for those 25,000 lol
Funny, so do I. I don't run Info-sec. Heck, I don't have admin rights on my normal account. I have to "tech" into machines if I want admin privileges. One thing about large companies, which was tough to learn, there is a whole level of management who exist only to cover the arses of those above them... and to cover their own.
I came to the same conclusion on the guy. I was just trying to backup my statement with my reasoning. As I said in previous articles, I am hoping a service pack will make Vista worth looking at. I had the same issue with XP when it first arrived, now I love the OS. Only time will tell I guess.
Also - You're screweing your customers over.
If you want to be aggressive... can't you spell?
Some group policy objects don't apply to Vista which makes Vista workstations not behave the same way as XP ones. Rather than my customer having to pay yet again for someone to look at implementing Vista into their domain they can continue to use XP for now. Are you saying then that places like Dell that started to only sell Vista machines then backtracked and started to offer XP machines again are also "screweing" their customers?
Keep in mind that most people on Neowin never work in IT, and if they do, they never do at any decision making level. If and when they climb the IT ladder, their decision making criteria will change or they will be unemployed. I, too, do not recommend Vista for anyone yet... but then again I don't work in Best Buy and am not the neighborhood "geek."
i think i would agree... i would not recommend vista for the average joe yet either... cause it's still got bugs etc etc in it that need to be worked out... and really, the average joe dont give a damn either... cause the bottom line for them as long as it "works" there happy and i think it's safe to say that in XP stuff "just works" more than it does in Vista (as of now)
Maybe because Vista is more secure and probably more stable? Nah, couldn't be. Yes, great quote, indeed.
After SP1 go with Vista, but until Vista has been out on the market long enough to prove itself, customers should continue to beta test and prove it.
I'm using Vista as my main OS, and having a majority of programs I use not working correctly on Vista is annoying. If I cant get mIRC to stop deleting all my scripts when I open it, or xfire not opening right away when I double-click the tray icon, is slightly annoying. Imagine if they're software wasn't 100% compatible with Vista, and something goes wrong during the Olympics...
Still I blame all program developers for not getting in gear and developing their programs to work w/o admin rights. :/
Maybe because Vista is more secure and probably more stable? Nah, couldn't be. Yes, great quote, indeed.
Do you believe everything MS spoon-feeds you?
There isn't a shred of proof that Vista is more secure or stable than XP. An OS is only as stable or secure as someone wants to make it.
Maybe because Vista is more secure and probably more stable? Nah, couldn't be. Yes, great quote, indeed.
Do you believe everything MS spoon-feeds you?
There isn't a shred of proof that Vista is more secure or stable than XP. An OS is only as stable or secure as someone wants to make it.
next time you try to reply... it would help to read the whole post...
Maybe because Vista is more secure and probably more stable? Nah, couldn't be. Yes, great quote, indeed.
Do you believe everything MS spoon-feeds you?
There isn't a shred of proof that Vista is more secure or stable than XP. An OS is only as stable or secure as someone wants to make it.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...ylang=en&tm is a document that shows how Vista has 10-15 fewer exploits than XP and OS X in their first 90 days or so, and explains it's security features/advantages over other MS OS's. And I base my beliefs on information value alone, not solely who supplied it.
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Maybe because Vista is more secure and probably more stable? Nah, couldn't be. Yes, great quote, indeed.
Do you believe everything MS spoon-feeds you?
There isn't a shred of proof that Vista is more secure or stable than XP. An OS is only as stable or secure as someone wants to make it.
i agree here
I suspect the writer had the intention to write up yet another article knocking Vista on something.
http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/pcuser/articles...15/news013.html
Yea thats kind of true, you could just replace "Vista" with anything and it makes the thing look bad
"No Macs for 2008 Beijing Olympics"
"No AMDs for 2008 Beijing Olympics"
"No Puppies for 2008 Beijing Olympics"
etc...
Yea thats kind of true, you could just replace "Vista" with anything and it makes the thing look bad
"No Macs for 2008 Beijing Olympics"
"No AMDs for 2008 Beijing Olympics"
"No Puppies for 2008 Beijing Olympics"
etc...
No Puppies for you!! NEXT!
Nonsense, what can possibley go wrong?
How about actually relevant actual news? All this anti/pro type sensationalism is getting boring and brain-damaging.
When it's pretty obvious the person posting it is posting it simply as a way to make Vista look bad without even bothering to research WHY they're not running Vista, it should be deleted.
There's regular members of this site who've been warned over posting stuff like this because it gets flame wars going. News posters do it and it's perfectly fine?
That's a complete fallacy. Stop making things up to push your opinion.
I'll say it again. There's no point in this being a news item so why have it on the front page?
Don't talk down to me as if I'm some kind of child. I don't appreciate that at all.
There's more than a few people on this site that know very well what I'm talking about and are getting a little more than sick of some of the abuse going around on this site with power tripping mods. I said the same as others above me have said, yet you targetted me. No surprise there honestly.
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i dont hate vista myself but i just dont think it's all that good cause XP is already "good enough"... basically all the major boosts from previous OS's are gone (basically when you go from Windows98/me TO WindowsXP u got a huge system boost to stability, now THAT is a worthwhile reason to go from Win98/ME to WinXP) ... but when you go from WinXP to Vista what do you get? ... i honestly cant think of much reason to use it (i gotta admit i never seen vista in action myself though) ... but i know people who run it i talk to online and they generally like it although they do run into occasional issues with it.... cause people that claim it's more stable i think thats 100percent bs if you ask me... cause windows xp you can usually runs for weeks straight without a reboot if you want to without issues... so thats "stable enough" and then some if you ask me.... so even "IF" vista where more stable, in reality it would not really matter.... as far as the security claim that vista is beter than xp, i think thats pretty much BS to overall to (but ill believe this claim more than the stability claim people been saying here and there)
cause Vista basically just got a pretty interface (that aero interface i think it's called?) which jacks up system requirements but overall it just seems more or less "something to play with" more than "this actually benefits me" sorta thing.... so video card requirements are steep and ram usage goes up (yet again!
but i guess reguardless of what i say... it's only a matter of time before Vista is "The New Standard" (probably within 2 years tops) ... so if you like vista or not your basically going to have to deal with it
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