TorrentSpy, one of the largest and most popular torrent dump sites, may soon become another piece of bait in the MPAA's ongoing efforts to track down and prosecute copyright infringers. The site has already been in legal trouble before, the target of an MPAA lawsuit in February 2006, but has resisted any change in policy. This may come to an end, due to a decision by the California Central District Court last month, in which federal judge Jacqueline Chooljian has ordered the site to create logs detailing individual user activity. These logs are then to be turned over to the MPAA for review. Judge Chooljian consequently granted a stay of the order, allowing TorrentSpy until June 12 to file an appeal.
TorrentSpy has a strict privacy policy, stating that it will never track visitors without their consent; the site's attorney, Ira Rothken, has stated that "It is likely that TorrentSpy would turn off access to the U.S. before tracking its users." The EFF, an advocate for the public in digital rights cases, though still reviewing the case, has tentatively given support to the site; Fred von Lohmann, an attorney for the EFF, calls the decision "unprecedented" and "troubling". "We shouldn't let Web site logging policies be set by litigation," said Lohmann. The EFF fears this decision could provide a dangerous precedent for intrusive actions in e-commerce and digital entertainment sights.
News source: News.com
TorrentSpy has a strict privacy policy, stating that it will never track visitors without their consent; the site's attorney, Ira Rothken, has stated that "It is likely that TorrentSpy would turn off access to the U.S. before tracking its users." The EFF, an advocate for the public in digital rights cases, though still reviewing the case, has tentatively given support to the site; Fred von Lohmann, an attorney for the EFF, calls the decision "unprecedented" and "troubling". "We shouldn't let Web site logging policies be set by litigation," said Lohmann. The EFF fears this decision could provide a dangerous precedent for intrusive actions in e-commerce and digital entertainment sights.
News source: News.com
Yeah, and with private trackers, they usually have your email and a great way to link all your IPs to your account. Brilliant.
In any case, this isn't anything to worry about. They can't prosecute you for looking at torrents, or even for downloading a torrent file. At least not yet, and not in the US.
I think they're mostly looking for the distributors; the pirate groups. That's a waste of time ofcourse, but the MPAA doesn't care, it is getting *paid* to do this.
Seconded!
u know, these guys can get into pretty much every private-d group.
if it takes to have an invite to a private tracker site, and you and me can get it some way, the MPAA and RIAA and friends prolly had the chance to use an invite earlier than we.
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you know I wish neowin would start banning these trolls
Ever thought of using that money and going back to school to learn how to spell and use puncuation?
BTW. Your above post could be used to incriminate you in court since you pretty much just admitted you download movies using torrents.
You're nowhere near a court yet and done screwed yourself
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Ever thought of using that money and going back to school to learn how to spell and use puncuation?
BTW. Your above post could be used to incriminate yourself in court since you pretty much just admitted you download movies using torrents.
You're nowhere near a court yet and done screwed yourself
let me let you in on a secret, i begged jack valentai to sue me. admitted to him on a court certified document that i had hundreds of movies,software etc. they wouldn't lift a finger I want them too I promise you it would be national news and they seem to not want to. so im not worried. as far as spelling yeah i know i don't spell well. never have. Have a masters degree currently going back for another B.S. I seem to do fine thanks for asking.
Ever thought of using that money and going back to school to learn how to spell and use puncuation?
BTW. Your above post could be used to incriminate yourself in court since you pretty much just admitted you download movies using torrents.
You're nowhere near a court yet and done screwed yourself
let me let you in on a secret, i begged jack valentai to sue me. admitted to him on a court certified document that i had hundreds of movies,software etc. they wouldn't lift a finger I want them too I promise you it would be national news and they seem to not want to. so im not worried. as far as spelling yeah i know i don't spell well. never have. Have a masters degree currently going back for another B.S. I seem to do fine thanks for asking.
Whatever man. The fact you're throwing around that you have all kinds of money and master degrees just tells me and most likely others, that you're full of poo. Take the trolling elsewhere. Nobody here cares. You sent out e-mails begging for people to sue you? Think of something better than that next time.
Thank you very much!
Ever thought of using that money and going back to school to learn how to spell and use puncuation?
BTW. Your above post could be used to incriminate yourself in court since you pretty much just admitted you download movies using torrents.
You're nowhere near a court yet and done screwed yourself
let me let you in on a secret, i begged jack valentai to sue me. admitted to him on a court certified document that i had hundreds of movies,software etc. they wouldn't lift a finger I want them too I promise you it would be national news and they seem to not want to. so im not worried. as far as spelling yeah i know i don't spell well. never have. Have a masters degree currently going back for another B.S. I seem to do fine thanks for asking.
Whatever man. The fact you're throwing around that you have all kinds of money and master degrees just tells me and most likely others, that you're full of poo. Take the trolling elsewhere. Nobody here cares. You sent out e-mails begging for people to sue you? Think of something better than that next time.
Thank you very much!
it's like this dude i don't care what you like ...period . I'm successful I'm proud of the fact I'm a professional and successful I'm also not like most on here 22 year olds working at best buy ok. that is successful as well. Yeah I have a little education I don't brag in fact out of almost 600 posts I may have mentioned it 6 times. your problem is and people like you is when you see someone that is successful and educated you feel threatened.
I really dont care if you like it or not get over it, im not some boy im a man and you have no say what so ever about anything. Take that and thank yourself my friend.
I really dont care if you like it or not get over it, im not some boy im a man and you have no say what so ever about anything. Take that and thank yourself my friend.
Mircleman, you're an idiot. Having an edumikation and poor spelling, and arguing about it, illustrates that you undeservedly received a piece of (toilet) paper from an educational instutition which itself ranks poorly in terms of quality -- but they're taking your money, so they have no reason to care for their reputation.
Actually, your returning to school tells all of us that you are undecided about yourself (read: lack confidence) and/or have a poor sense of judgment. Either way, it does NOT make you any better.
As for your claims of seeking legal action against you: you're an idiot. Who the hell asks a dead man to file a lawsuit against them? That's just absurd and downright mean. What's more, unsubstantiated claims are insufficient grounds to sue you; they need accurate and personally identifyable evidence for cause about your actions before even stepping into a courthouse. Anything put into writing, physically or virtually, if true, is incriminating evidence -- but not enough for a party to sue you.
Use spellcheck, get a lawyer, get a real education, and hopefully you'll get a clue.
I really dont care if you like it or not get over it, im not some boy im a man and you have no say what so ever about anything. Take that and thank yourself my friend.
Mircleman, you're an idiot. Having an edumikation and poor spelling, and arguing about it, illustrates that you undeservedly received a piece of (toilet) paper from an educational instutition which itself ranks poorly in terms of quality -- but they're taking your money, so they have no reason to care for their reputation.
Actually, your returning to school tells all of us that you are undecided about yourself (read: lack confidence) and/or have a poor sense of judgment. Either way, it does NOT make you any better.
As for your claims of seeking legal action against you: you're an idiot. Who the hell asks a dead man to file a lawsuit against them? That's just absurd and downright mean. What's more, unsubstantiated claims are insufficient grounds to sue you; they need accurate and personally identifyable evidence for cause about your actions before even stepping into a courthouse. Anything put into writing, physically or virtually, if true, is incriminating evidence -- but not enough for a party to sue you.
Use spellcheck, get a lawyer, get a real education, and hopefully you'll get a clue.
funny my spell check says I didn't have 1 misspelled word you however were not lucky now having said that. for your information the reason I decided to go back to school was because my degree is in computer programing from 20 years ago as I'm sure you know things have changed quite a bit since then. thats the only reason. I have more confidence then most I officially retired at 35 years old but still work not because I have to but because i like to.
as far as jack is concerned I did this in 2004 before he was deceased. I'm far from an idiot unlike you im willing to put my money where my mouth is and stand up and put it all on the line to make a difference. unlike the few of you on here who when someone says something about money or education immediately for whatever reason feel intimidated. we are all on the same team and should be fighting them not each other. If you scroll up i was not the one who trolled .
lol at this post ("puncuation?"
lol at this post ("puncuation?"
Balls are Bigger and Brains are Bigger when you're Online.
lol at this post ("puncuation?"
Balls are Bigger and Brains are Bigger when you're Online.
you got that right id love to meet some of these fine folks in person.
lol what you guys all live together, related, or went to school for comedy? and use the same lines or what. too funny.
No, not really. At least I'm not sitting on Neowin's site all day waiting for everyone's responses, because you must lack attention or something. Who knows.
No, not really. At least I'm not sitting on Neowin's site all day waiting for everyone's responses, because you must lack attention or something. Who knows.
i just think its funny you came to the conversation late have no real clue what the issue even is. but you must of saw one of your buddies. so you decided to say something retarded thats all.
No, not really. At least I'm not sitting on Neowin's site all day waiting for everyone's responses, because you must lack attention or something. Who knows.
i just think its funny you came to the conversation late have no real clue what the issue even is. but you must of saw one of your buddies. so you decided to say something retarded thats all.
That's interesting.. because.. I came late (like always, so my GF tells me), and I can read all the above posts and STILL KNOW what's going on. I just popped in to say, "You're a douche bag".
I'm not gonna take sides, but can *everyone* please just shut up or take it elsewhere? At least keep flamewars to the forums - I (and I'm sure many others reading this) don't want to have to scroll through page after page of crappy comments that aren't related to the article...
Cheers.
I'm not gonna take sides, but can *everyone* please just shut up or take it elsewhere? At least keep flamewars to the forums - I (and I'm sure many others reading this) don't want to have to scroll through page after page of crappy comments that aren't related to the article...
Cheers.
Or are they not run by torrentspy?
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and then rapidly reapears
thats funny
Good one
its about the MPAA (MOTION PICTURES ....) not the RIAA (RECORD ...)
Glassed Silver:mac
its about the MPAA (MOTION PICTURES ....) not the RIAA (RECORD ...)
Glassed Silver:mac
OOPs RIAA MPAA, they are both pretty much the same, they both suck
so basically they would be better off spending there money on other stuff vs trying to stop pirates as it will never stop them... cause as we all know they shutdown torrentspy and another pops up in a few weeks. plus it aint like where having a shortage of torrent sites. so basically unless they can take out damn near all torrent sites (which aint gonna happen) they might as well not bother trying to screw with torrentspy.
so basically they would be better off spending there money on other stuff vs trying to stop pirates as it will never stop them... cause as we all know they shutdown torrentspy and another pops up in a few weeks. plus it aint like where having a shortage of torrent sites. so basically unless they can take out damn near all torrent sites (which aint gonna happen) they might as well not bother trying to screw with torrentspy.
Exactly...They (MPAA) work on the belief that if pirates were stopped, they would then buy legal dvds/cds etc. The MPAA should take its head out of its a$$ and go after the real pirates. i.e. the guys that copy the movies and then sell counterfeit copies of the movies. These guys profit from it, and therefore removing them would mean an increase in revenue (people that buy these would then have to buy the originals).
Then again, they could always do the reasonable thing, and lower the prices on the movies they sell/ in cinemas...ensuring more people would wanna watch/ own a copy of the legal movie. But guess thats never going to happen while they keep milking the consumers dry...
so basically they would be better off spending there money on other stuff vs trying to stop pirates as it will never stop them... cause as we all know they shutdown torrentspy and another pops up in a few weeks. plus it aint like where having a shortage of torrent sites. so basically unless they can take out damn near all torrent sites (which aint gonna happen) they might as well not bother trying to screw with torrentspy.
Exactly...They (MPAA) work on the belief that if pirates were stopped, they would then buy legal dvds/cds etc. The MPAA should take its head out of its a$$ and go after the real pirates. i.e. the guys that copy the movies and then sell counterfeit copies of the movies. These guys profit from it, and therefore removing them would mean an increase in revenue (people that buy these would then have to buy the originals).
Then again, they could always do the reasonable thing, and lower the prices on the movies they sell/ in cinemas...ensuring more people would wanna watch/ own a copy of the legal movie. But guess thats never going to happen while they keep milking the consumers dry...
i gotta agree with you here alot in the bold!
but anyways, i rarely goto theaters anymore as ticket costs are just to much plus u gotta pay for there seriously overpriced popcorn etc etc on top of it.... theater tickets should not cost more than 5 dollars per person TOPS.
but anyways, i rarely goto theaters anymore as ticket costs are just to much plus u gotta pay for there seriously overpriced popcorn etc etc on top of it.... theater tickets should not cost more than 5 dollars per person TOPS.
I agree...I mean, the excuse always given for the high popcorn and soda prices is that the theatres dont make enough money just selling tickets...This is bullcrap.
I mean you hear all the time a movie made so many millions in the first few days, etc, but they still justify the high prices. I guess we are the gullible public. If we boycott the theatres / music cds / etc...They will have to drop the prices.
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