Using Windows Update, Microsoft has quietly rolled out an update for beta testers using the next version of Windows Live Messenger. The obvious advantage is having the option of being able to update yet another Microsoft product in the same familiar place. The Windows Update client in Vista downloads the update, creates a restore point, install the update - and it can do this all without any user-interaction, if you should choose to. The description of WLM 8.5 Beta 1 Update 1 is as follows: “This update is being used to test how Microsoft Updates are distributed for Windows Live Messenger. While there are no actual changes to Messenger at this time, it's important for Messenger Beta testers to receive this update. Thanks for helping test Messenger!”

There may not be any “actual changes” but nevertheless the build number has changed from 8.5.1235.0517 to 8.5.1238.0601. The update seemed to go fine for me, what about you?

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Link: Windows Live Messenger | Forum Discussion (Thanks snsn)


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Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by (V)eGa on 22 Jun 2007 - 23:34
I also got this message when I was on my XP box yesterday. I didn't install it because I know it will most likely kill my A-patch and Messenger Plus plug-ins. (I know I know, I'm such a lazy ass )
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by M118LR on 22 Jun 2007 - 23:38
For those of you still running XP with Microsoft Updates, there is a change I did not see before. WLM has been added to the Microsoft Updates page as part of what updates MU looks for. It looks like any new updates to WLM will come through MU.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by Lastwebpage on 22 Jun 2007 - 23:41
Sorry, I think I am too stupid for this, what exactly Ms test with that update if the updater from Vista works? It update Viste, Office, OneCare, ... but the messenger could make trouble?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by ghos on 22 Jun 2007 - 23:58
Yes it worked fine here for the beta on XP. I also don't know why this would be that big a deal to implement aside from the fact that its just a program versus most updates are IE or Outlook fixes.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by Primetime2006 on 23 Jun 2007 - 01:36
Not really sure what the fix brought on.

Quote this comment #5.1 Posted by M118LR on 23 Jun 2007 - 01:56
It isn't a fix. In the past updates to Messenger were done through Messenger. Now updates to Messenger will be through Microsoft Update. MS had to test the update process of Messenger through Microsoft Update to look for bugs in the system.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by Marshalus on 23 Jun 2007 - 02:35
Think how much people would complain if they didn't test it.

Give them a break eh?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by daniel_rh on 23 Jun 2007 - 02:37
All fine here with the update... Vista Ultimate
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by +M2Ys4U on 23 Jun 2007 - 03:20
Hmm.

Kind of a good idea but I'd rather see updates separately and keep WU Windows-only.
Quote this comment #8.1 Posted by +boldfire on 23 Jun 2007 - 11:18
Except of course it isn't Windows Update, it's Microsoft Update - two different things.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by DJ Prem on 23 Jun 2007 - 03:27
Perfect
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by +Digix on 23 Jun 2007 - 03:39
it came through for me a day or so ago, i thought was something fishy with it but didn't post about it on neowin. as good of an idea it is it's not a good way to do specially for force reboot to install messenger what a joke.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #11 Posted by jwjw1 on 23 Jun 2007 - 04:02
isn't it actually on Microsoft Updates...and not on the Windows Update....Microsoft Updates other products...as WU only does Windows.
Quote this comment #11.1 Posted by Striker317 on 23 Jun 2007 - 05:04
Quote - (jwjw1 said @ #11)
isn't it actually on Microsoft Updates...and not on the Windows Update....Microsoft Updates other products...as WU only does Windows.


You can blame (or thank) the DOJ for that.

(edit, whoops, this reply was meant for comment number 12... sorry)
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #12 Posted by whocares78 on 23 Jun 2007 - 04:04
What i don't get is why they are still using windows update, unless they arent, Micosoft update nowdays is way easier and the one that updates office, sql, etc etc, basically all MS products, from all my understanding windows update only updates windows and windows components. i reckon just get rid of windows update and just have MS update.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #13 Posted by +Brandon Live on 23 Jun 2007 - 04:19
Slight error there... This is Microsoft Update, not Windows Update...
Quote this comment #13.1 Posted by black_death on 23 Jun 2007 - 05:48
Im pretty sure theyre exactly the same
Quote this comment #13.2 Posted by M118LR on 23 Jun 2007 - 08:56
Quote - (black_death said @ #13.1)
Im pretty sure theyre exactly the same

No they are not. As has been pointed out. Windows Update is just for Windows. Microsoft Updates cover Windows, Office, WLM, IE, and other MS Apps.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #14 Posted by GamerZ on 23 Jun 2007 - 04:22
i received it loud and clear!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #15 Posted by WarLuigi on 23 Jun 2007 - 09:40
Nice to see this implemented. Hate to be bothered with updates when using WLM . Now I can just update in a simple reboot of my Vista PC.
(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #16 Posted by Tom Servo on 23 Jun 2007 - 11:10
Not only doing everything centrally and automated, but also another way to push WGA on your machine.
Quote this comment #16.1 Posted by ThoughtKrime on 23 Jun 2007 - 11:32
Exactly, means that all the l337 pirate haxx0rs will soon be stuck with an old version of messenger, hehe.
Quote this comment #16.2 Posted by Graimer on 23 Jun 2007 - 13:05
Quote - (ThoughtKrime said @ #16.1)
Exactly, means that all the l337 pirate haxx0rs will soon be stuck with an old version of messenger, hehe.


I personally have a genuine vista ultimate, but if I'm not totally wrong, you can still and has allways been able to download almost all updates from windows update at microsoft.com (as it's own .exe file per update), so why do you think they'll stop updating the installer you download from the live messenger website?
Quote this comment #16.3 Posted by jwjw1 on 23 Jun 2007 - 18:58
Quote - (ThoughtKrime said @ #16.1)
Exactly, means that all the l337 pirate haxx0rs will soon be stuck with an old version of messenger, hehe.


if you really think that...then your not so l337 yourself.....lol
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #17 Posted by jungle bill on 23 Jun 2007 - 17:05
Worked fine for me in Vista, and as Marshalus rightly said, folk will gripe and complain if this didnt work right, after all its beta anyhow so could be prone to issues.. hence testing ( OK there are bugs after testing too but what OS or Software is fully bug free ), not that I have had many as yet testing all the live apps, only feedback I have had to give was suggestions.

Pushing WGA? well doesnt a company have the right to protect its product? easy option and its your choice as we all have choices is not to use Microsoft products.
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