Microsoft has finally commented on the much criticized Ultimate Extras.
"We want to let our Windows Vista Ultimate customers know that we are actively working to deliver the remaining Extras that we identified in January. Our goal is to provide the highest-quality, most secure and reliable offerings, and as a result we are continuing our work on these offerings. We apologize for taking so long to provide a status update to customers."
Microsoft intends to ship Windows DreamScene and the remaining 20 Language Packs by the end of the summer. The company also confirmed the ultimate extras team expect to disclose a schedule of further Extras releases after the release of DreamScene and the remaining 20 language packs.
View: Windows Vista Ultimate Site
"We want to let our Windows Vista Ultimate customers know that we are actively working to deliver the remaining Extras that we identified in January. Our goal is to provide the highest-quality, most secure and reliable offerings, and as a result we are continuing our work on these offerings. We apologize for taking so long to provide a status update to customers."
Microsoft intends to ship Windows DreamScene and the remaining 20 Language Packs by the end of the summer. The company also confirmed the ultimate extras team expect to disclose a schedule of further Extras releases after the release of DreamScene and the remaining 20 language packs.
View: Windows Vista Ultimate Site
Give them a Break!
LANGUAGE PACKS?
How in unholy tarnation does that qualify as an "Ultimate Extra"?!
All I saw in that post was "We're still trying to fix DreamScene, wish us luck!" and "We'll tell you what we're thinking on working on next (with suitably vague delivery promise) after we've finished this first doodad - promise!"
Bleh.
LANGUAGE PACKS?
How in unholy tarnation does that qualify as an "Ultimate Extra"?!
I totally agree with you.
It certainly seems a Language pack would apply to all versions of Vista... not just as an Ultimate Extra.
There already is ~18 Language packs available for the Ultimate version... I'd be interested in what the other 20 are...
Of course.. poor old Microsoft.. they've barely got enough programmers to stretch round as they're so under financed and struggling to find talented folks to work in the Windows team!
Come on.. they're the worlds biggest software company, Windows is their flagship product, and Ultimate was supposed to be the best version of Windows they ever made.. so for them so slack off on developing for that is completely inexcusible IMHO. It should have been way up the radar, more so than things like their Google competing products, etc.
U guys think dreamscene is easy to code?
Nothing is easy to code when we need compatibility for infinite computer configurations and languages
No; but I wouldn't spend all of my extra time on a fancy slide-show either... the only time that is useful is if I have had consumed too much and need something to just look at and veg...
No, but I expect more from the most powerful and best funded software company on the planet. DreamScene is a mess - it doesn't even work on multi-monitor setups FFS! So far the only worthwhile things we've had have been Texas Hold 'Em (which is cool) and Bitlocker (which doesn't work on computers without a TPM chip). So we've had ONE usable "Ultimate" release. Pathetic.
I don't understand why people are so quick to defend a multi-billion dollar company like Microsoft when it has provided no reason to do so.
LANGUAGE PACKS?
How in unholy tarnation does that qualify as an "Ultimate Extra"?!
All I saw in that post was "We're still trying to fix DreamScene, wish us luck!" and "We'll tell you what we're thinking on working on next (with suitably vague delivery promise) after we've finished this first doodad - promise!"
Bleh.
absolutely agree with you on this, language packs are somethign that i would consider is an integral part of the OS, XP had it hey i think even 98 had it. how this is an extra is beyond me, it should be built in to the OS.
U guys think dreamscene is easy to code?
Nothing is easy to code when we need compatibility for infinite computer configurations and languages
yeah remember they are coding it for vista, if it was coded for XP it would have been out months ago
No, but I expect more from the most powerful and best funded software company on the planet. DreamScene is a mess - it doesn't even work on multi-monitor setups FFS! So far the only worthwhile things we've had have been Texas Hold 'Em (which is cool) and Bitlocker (which doesn't work on computers without a TPM chip). So we've had ONE usable "Ultimate" release. Pathetic.
I don't understand why people are so quick to defend a multi-billion dollar company like Microsoft when it has provided no reason to do so.
yeah i like the poker too. i really have to quote on that. just that
LANGUAGE PACKS?
How in unholy tarnation does that qualify as an "Ultimate Extra"?!
All I saw in that post was "We're still trying to fix DreamScene, wish us luck!" and "We'll tell you what we're thinking on working on next (with suitably vague delivery promise) after we've finished this first doodad - promise!"
Bleh.
I wouldn't consider Language Packs to be an extra, I would expect them to be a neccesity, unless they are planning to release some special language packs, in which case, I want the following language packs.
1. Yoda
2. Piglatin
3. Astro the Dog
and 4. L33T!
Anyone else?
Works just fine on my multi monitor setup thankyou.
That's nice but it doesn't help me. You must be the exception as a quick search of Google highlights the problems people have been having with multi-monitor setups. It's pathetic.
There was no hype about anything, none of the usual marketing terms we're used to or anything like that, just a small message saying that the remaining to extras will be available by the end of the summer and that more are planned down the line.
Seems like a fair enough response to me.
Ummmm yeahhhh... sounds like Microsoft hasn't really been working on the Extras as hard as what they should have been and people noticed and complained and now they're just spewing marketing BS. But hey, that's just me.
Ummmm yeahhhh... sounds like Microsoft hasn't really been working on the Extras as hard as what they should have been and people noticed and complained and now they're just spewing marketing BS. But hey, that's just me.
Oh I'm not disagreeing with that at all, I think that Vista ultimate is a joke, I'm just saying I don't think it was marketing BS here, just regular BS =P
Yeah...right...
Did anyone notice the "Microsoft Answers Vista Ultimate Extras Critics" in their RSS reader until just now because when I was looking back at Google Reader to see how I could've missed it and it wasn't there in Google Reader. The post's time is 12:24 however in Google Reader which would put it inbetween "Online Customized Ads Move a Step Closer" and "Are Intel Core 2 Chips a Security Threat?" doesn't show up anywhere in it and also that there has only been 57 views to this post that was made 6 hours ago.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-abou...oft-58752.shtml
sure, keep believing you're important
Last edited by dl0711 on 02 Jul 2007 - 20:16
do your research.
Last edited by dl0711 on 02 Jul 2007 - 20:17
do your research.
lol my bad.. sorry i got mixed up in the date format.
are u in UK
Did people buy Vista Ultimate for enjoying and learning their OS in every language?!
the ability to install multiple language packs for you OS in case of multiple users with different languages, is an extra.
Noone bought ultimate because of the extras. Will they make more extras? Probably, but it really doesn't matter to most users of ultimate
-d
Let them take their time and get some good stuff out, but for gods sake stop moaning. People are only moaning because its Microsoft anyway. If it were Apple the 20 Language packs would be 'innovative'.
The current language packs consist of Chinese, Spanish, French and German (to name but a few) - Chinese is spoken more than English! It is ridiculous that Microsoft made language packs an "Ultimate Extra" and speaks volumes about how they like to fleece people.
The current language packs consist of Chinese, Spanish, French and German (to name but a few) - Chinese is spoken more than English! It is ridiculous that Microsoft made language packs an "Ultimate Extra" and speaks volumes about how they like to fleece people.
Also Italian, Chinese (both HK and Simplified), Danish, Dutch, Finnish, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Portuguese (Brazil), Russian, Spanish and Swedish.
Or perhaps you will continue to be a dick and ignore those to prove your point.
Oh don't forget, Hold'em Poker doesn't play online, but it's still a great way to pass the time at the office... wait wait? I found a glitch! The game ends when you press Alt F4!!!!
So I think this `extras` really have an impact on common windows users.
umm... well maybe after a non-average users shows them that `extras` exists.
oh well, i guess this `extras` is to whine afterall.
use ubuntu or xp. hahaha
They said that we will get extras before and all we got was 3 useless extras and one of them is still in preview/beta. So that right there shows that they will not keep their word. Also how long did it take them to reply to this matter?? A long time so that proves that you should just wait. Also if you look on their site they removed the teams Bios because there is NO Ultimate Extra team anymore.
They only said what they said because they dont want us the users and they media that have been covering this issue to change sales because of not having the extras. this is just a PR stunt because Ultimate sales was down ever since this issue came up.
Last edited by dl0711 on 03 Jul 2007 - 04:11
How are they not getting what they paid for? They paid for an operating system and they got an operating system. They paid for the chance to download Extras knowing full well the history of Microsoft and their timelines. They took the chance, they got burned in terms of time. Microsoft is not saying "we are not giving you extras, haha, we screwed you, now try and sue us". They are saying it is taking longer than normal. As long as the extras are eventually provided, Microsoft has made good on their promise.
That being said, now that MS has commented, shut your mouths. If you really have nothing better to do in life than whine and bitch about extras in an operating system, then you should consider medical help.
You should be the one that needs medical help.
You should be the one that needs medical help.
Great comeback.
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