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Asustek Released Mainboard with Built-In DDR3 Memory Modules

Slimy   on 07 July 2007 - 06:51 · 31 comments & 10529 views

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Since DDR3 memory technology is nowhere near wide availability yet, Asustek Computer, the world’s largest producer of computer mainboards, has decided to offer a motherboard with pre-installed DDR3 modules and specifically tailored heat-spreaders. The manufacturer suggested retail price of the novelty has not yet been announced.

Asustek’s P5K3 Premium/WiFi-AP mainboard comes with two 1GB of PC3-10666 (1333MHz) memory modules already installed onboard and covered with high-performance heat-spreaders. Even though onboard DDR3 memory works at default 1066MHz, Asus guarantees that the memory can be overclocked to 1500MHz and higher. The company does not name the supplier of the modules or their latency nor voltage settings. The mainboard is based on an Intel P35 chipset and supports a variety of LGA775 form-factor processors, including future chips with a 1333MHz processor system bus. The board supports ATI CrossFire multi-GPU technology, sports a number of modern technologies for tweaking and overclocking as well as built-in wireless network controller that can function both as an access point or a wireless client mode.

News source: Xbit Laboratories

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(2 replies) #1 adversedeviant on 07 Jul 2007 - 07:07
only for the rich and dumb
#1.1 +Zhivago on 07 Jul 2007 - 12:40
You knowledge of business and logistics astonished me.
#1.2 ANova on 08 Jul 2007 - 09:43
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You knowledge of business and logistics astonished me.


He's right. This stupid thing will probably go for around $500-600 considering DDR3 is no less then $400 for 2GB plus Asus boards are overpriced as it is.
#2 Hak Foo on 07 Jul 2007 - 07:08
I recall when some of the old OEM propriatery-mobo-from-hell systems would have soldered-on RAM-- like 4 or 8M of it.

So basically, you'd spend a fortune on a premium mobo, and then can't expand it beyond 2Gb, cos the picture shows no sockets? This is made of lose; I'd expect that most people would rather have 4Gb of slightly downclocked memory even if the 2Gb could have gone to 1500.
#3 Croquant on 07 Jul 2007 - 07:12
Nice idea, but the implementation is a little flawed.

First, I would have used the nVidia 680i chipset to provide SLI support and a third PCIe 16x slot. High-performance gamers are all going with the nVidia 8800 GTX and GTO cards, and a lot of them are running in SLI.

I suppose it's nice that they offered Crossfire support, just so long as they also offer the same design with SLI support.

Second, I would offer a version that has 4GB of DDR3-1600 pre-installed.

Finaly, I'd offer an "Extreme" version with a waterblock available to help cool all those heatpipes, for watercoolers who regularly push the system past what passive cooling can handle. They already did it on the Blitz Extreme.

See?
(8 replies) #4 MrCobra on 07 Jul 2007 - 09:38
Only 1GB and built-in? No thanks. 4GB and we might talk. Plus a version with SLI would be nice.
#4.1 chicken-royal on 07 Jul 2007 - 10:20
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comes with two 1GB of PC3-10666 (1333MHz) memory modules


#4.2 MrCobra on 07 Jul 2007 - 11:04
Even then being locked in to that...nope.
#4.3 Primetime2006 on 07 Jul 2007 - 15:38
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#4.4 adversedeviant on 07 Jul 2007 - 15:43
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#4.5 Shadrack on 07 Jul 2007 - 16:01
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Wait a second, they are offering the highest possible memory speeds possible for a premium price and you do not think they are targetting "RAM-heads".... I think your logic is flawed.

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#4.6 japroach on 07 Jul 2007 - 18:57
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Only 1GB and built-in? No thanks. 4GB and we might talk. Plus a version with SLI would be nice.

Nvidia does not support SLI on third party chipsets, so yes it would be nice for a select few (about 1.3% of gamers), but its not possible at the moment.
#4.7 MrCobra on 07 Jul 2007 - 21:49
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Quote - (MrCobra said @ #4)
Only 1GB and built-in? No thanks. 4GB and we might talk. Plus a version with SLI would be nice.

Nvidia does not support SLI on third party chipsets, so yes it would be nice for a select few (about 1.3% of gamers), but its not possible at the moment.

Uhm, I know they don't support it on 3rd party boards. I said:
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#4.8 japroach on 08 Jul 2007 - 08:51
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Uhm, I know they don't support it on 3rd party boards. I said:
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Plus a version with SLI would be nice.


Well its not under their control at all. "A version" sounded like oh they can choose to make a wifi version if they wanted..

Just ignore the first and last part of my comment then.
#5 chicken-royal on 07 Jul 2007 - 10:19
Seems a good idea, but I'd rather have the flexibility of choosing my own RAM.
(5 replies) #6 Shof on 07 Jul 2007 - 15:47
I dont know why are you all are assuming false things? What if asus does plan letting you add more memory. So lets say this has 2gb of onboard ram, and they give you 2 slots to put your own ram. I bet they are going to do something like this:
Slot1: 1gb onboard
Slot2: Empty/Add your own
Slot3: 1gb onboard
Slot4: Empty/add your own
#6.1 12Iceman on 07 Jul 2007 - 16:06
If you click the link for the news source of this article, you will see a picture showing that this is not the case. However, if ASUS did what you are suggesting, this would be a lot better idea.
#6.2 +chconline on 07 Jul 2007 - 16:08
^^ Yeah. But also, that would cause a bit of problems if you can add your own ram.

Seems like a good upgrade from my P5K-Deluxe tho
#6.3 12Iceman on 07 Jul 2007 - 16:22
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^^ Yeah. But also, that would cause a bit of problems if you can add your own ram.


Why? People have been adding RAM to motherboards for years. They would just have to loose the fancy heat pipe cooling solution on the RAM, or better yet, design it to be easily removable for future upgrades.
#6.4 Croquant on 07 Jul 2007 - 19:30
Quote - (Shof said @ #6)
I dont know why are you all are assuming false things? What if asus does plan letting you add more memory. So lets say this has 2gb of onboard ram, and they give you 2 slots to put your own ram. I bet they are going to do something like this:
Slot1: 1gb onboard
Slot2: Empty/Add your own
Slot3: 1gb onboard
Slot4: Empty/add your own


That would be nice, but dream on. With the heatpipe coolers and RAMsinks (which is the whole point of having the RAM on-board in the first place) there's barely enough room on the board for two DIMMs, let alone four. Unless they go to a E-ATX form-factor, I don't see how you can cram another two DIMM slots on there... even if the second set of DIMM slots are user-fillable.
#6.5 +chconline on 07 Jul 2007 - 19:35
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^^ Yeah. But also, that would cause a bit of problems if you can add your own ram.


Why? People have been adding RAM to motherboards for years. They would just have to loose the fancy heat pipe cooling solution on the RAM, or better yet, design it to be easily removable for future upgrades.


Mixing/matching RAM of different manufacturers/frequency/latencies is not really preferable on the enthusiast side.
(2 replies) #7 shakey on 07 Jul 2007 - 16:22
if u look at the mb, you can see 4 ram slots, so yes, u can add more ram. im sure you can even put ddr2 in it if you didn t like the ddr3. its a great deal, i think to many people just dont read the words and look at the picture well enough.
#7.1 japroach on 07 Jul 2007 - 18:53
You are looking at the wrong picture buddy, click the "xbit laboratories" link...
#7.2 Croquant on 07 Jul 2007 - 19:23
Yeah. Learn to read, shakey. The picture I posted was to illustrate the point that there's already such a thing as a waterblock-cooled motherboard, but that's NOT the motherboard with the built-in DDR3 RAM.
#8 modicr on 07 Jul 2007 - 16:28
Hello!

> retail price of the novelty has not yet been announced.

On the following site it is sold for 455 A$
http://www.diycomputers.com.au/product.asp?id=6200

which equals cca. 390 USD or 290 EUR
http://www.google.si/search?q=455+AUD+%2F+EUR

Cheers, Roman
(1 reply) #9 +warwagon on 07 Jul 2007 - 17:43
What happens if the ram goes bad?
#9.1 Croquant on 07 Jul 2007 - 19:33
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What happens if the ram goes bad?

You get a refund?
#10 +AltecXP on 07 Jul 2007 - 18:13
I dont see any problem with it aside from if the ram dies. Most people that buy this well be gammers in which case...why do you need over 2gb?
#11 J a d o O n on 07 Jul 2007 - 18:42
If its good in price...then definetly it will b hot

http://technobuddy.blogspot.com
#12 Croquant on 07 Jul 2007 - 19:00
The real reason the RAM is pre-installed is the cooling system that's on-board. That's a huge bloody heatpipe/heatsink they have on there. Beats the hell out of any third-party passive cooler I've seen. The only thing that could beat this is a RAM waterblock, but those things are so wide and thick that you'd end up only being able to install two DIMMs on a four DIMM-slot system, so why not go with pre-installed RAM pre-cooled RAM?
#13 LittleMeEgo on 07 Jul 2007 - 21:16
I think it's a fine idea for many people but no one here has mentioned what I think is the main problem with this board. That being that if you want to change your motherboard, you can't bring your RAM to the new board. Many times I've upgraded my motherboard and brought the RAM with it. The "ram goes bad" issue is far less common, IMO. Most likely the motherboard goes bad first. I've had several motherboards go bad on me, but a RAM stick, not so.

Still though, it's a tempting board. 2GB of DDR3 RAM + motherboard=$455 - not too bad. 2GB is on the minimum side for my wants. I currently have 3GB.

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