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New Intel IGP Driver to deliver boost? Mobo makers say no!

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 26 July 2007 - 12:22 · 20 comments & 7287 views

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Although Intel will try to deliver better graphics performance by introducing new drivers for its integrated graphics processors (IGPs), motherboard makers in Taiwan generally doubt the advancements that Intel is claiming. Intel plans to introduce new drivers for its G965, GM965 and G35 chipsets to support Vertex Shader 3.0 in August. Two new drivers, 15.6 and 14.31, will be introduced to support Windows Vista and XP respectively.

These new drivers are claimed to enhance stability significantly and support Shader Model 4.0. The drivers are also said to add better support for games including Stalker, UT2004 and Guild Wars, allowing the IGPs to deliver a noticeable performance leap. Although the upcoming drivers mark an improvement, motherboard makers from Taiwan note that the revealed information from Intel shows that these drivers still do not support a certain number of well-known games. This prompts them to believe that the drivers will not actually deliver much of a difference.

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(4 replies) #1 majortom1981 on 26 Jul 2007 - 12:26
This story doesnt make sense. The top paragraph states Shader Model 3 and the bottom states shader model 4
#1.1 theyarecomingforyou on 26 Jul 2007 - 12:38
Vertex Shader 3.0
Shader Model 4.0
#1.2 kaiwai on 26 Jul 2007 - 12:39
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This story doesnt make sense. The top paragraph states Shader Model 3 and the bottom states shader model 4


I think the bigger issue is why are people who play 'hard core games' like UT2004 etc with integrated video cards? I'm sorry, but these cards tend be designed for either very cheap computers or laptops that need low power consumption.

On a side note, the Intel GPU's on *NIX run fabulously.
#1.3 toadeater on 26 Jul 2007 - 21:00
It would be good for us if Intel gave Nvidia and ATI some competition.
#1.4 kaiwai on 27 Jul 2007 - 03:06
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It would be good for us if Intel gave Nvidia and ATI some competition.


Its not going to happen anytime soon - there just isn't any money in the grand ****ing competitions which Nvidia engages in. The only thing I'd like to see is a PCIe board with Intel's GPU along with dedicated memory, especially with their new GPU design that'll be coming soon.

For the vast majority, they don't care about 'games performance' people who care about 'games performance' make up a piddly number when compared to the number who use a computer to get things done.

Quite frankly, I don't understand the attraction to PC gaming, its a waste of time and money - grab a console and be done with it.
(1 reply) #2 theyarecomingforyou on 26 Jul 2007 - 12:48
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The drivers are also said to add better support for games including Stalker, UT2004 and Guild Wars, allowing the IGPs to deliver a noticeable performance leap.

Whilst I can understand improvements to Guild Wars, as at lower settings it is not very demanding, I can't believe you can get close to "passable" framerates on a game like Stalker using Intel's onboard chipsets.
#2.1 aldrlandon on 26 Jul 2007 - 17:31
Yes, I was amazed that I was barely even able to play stalker on almost all low settings on my Radeon X1300 Pro 256MB. I have to run it at like 800x600 just to get passable framerates, so I seriously doubt that stalker is going to run well on any integrated Intel graphics.
(2 replies) #3 C++ on 26 Jul 2007 - 13:39
Why would this be hard to believe? Software always has been and always will be a far bigger determining factor than hardware in your computer's performance. Just look at regular applications.

For example, no one argued against Adobe's 100MB Reader and it's 20 second startup times until Foxit came along and released a 1MB version that loaded instantly. What makes you think that drivers are incapable of doing the same?
#3.1 Digitalfox on 26 Jul 2007 - 13:57
Quote - (C++ said @ #3)
Why would this be hard to believe? Software always has been and always will be a far bigger determining factor than hardware in your computer's performance. Just look at regular applications.

For example, no one argued against Adobe's 100MB Reader and it's 20 second startup times until Foxit came along and released a 1MB version that loaded instantly. What makes you think that drivers are incapable of doing the same?


Good Point..
#3.2 RAID 0 on 26 Jul 2007 - 16:53
Quote - (C++ said @ #3)
Why would this be hard to believe? Software always has been and always will be a far bigger determining factor than hardware in your computer's performance. Just look at regular applications.

For example, no one argued against Adobe's 100MB Reader and it's 20 second startup times until Foxit came along and released a 1MB version that loaded instantly. What makes you think that drivers are incapable of doing the same?


C++, you do bring up a VERY valid point. The only thing is, there's only so far you can go with software improvements. After that you DO need new hardware. Even the best software in the world is not going to make a 486 DX2-66 keep up with a P4 HT 3.0 GHz. Just like the best driver is not going to make a Geforce 2 keep up with a 8800.

With that said, I do believe hardware is SO far ahead of the software/drivers, it does need some time to "catch up".
(1 reply) #4 mcs2k1 on 26 Jul 2007 - 15:16
i've been using the beta drivers since they're released. they indeed provide better performance, more than 300% i can say.
#4.1 vetneufuse on 26 Jul 2007 - 15:24
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i've been using the beta drivers since they're released. they indeed provide better performance, more than 300% i can say.


Do you have any benchmarks to back up the claim? would be interesting to see
#5 eilegz on 26 Jul 2007 - 16:04
interesting, now if they can improve it and move further they can aim to lowend ati and nvidia cards which it lacks and cost too much.

Energy consumption its always a problem in a GPU area and so far no one address it like intel, now we only need a better performance
#6 winrez on 26 Jul 2007 - 18:44


Here is the direct download link for the new beta driver if some of you can't wait http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.as...e=&lang=eng
#7 ishtar on 26 Jul 2007 - 18:58
Heh Heh Heh He He He
#8 winrez on 26 Jul 2007 - 19:03
I just took a benchmark of FSX SP1 on all display settings on high at 1440x900

GMA 15.2 Released Driver 17.9-20 fps
GMA 15.6b Beta Driver 4.9-9 fps

the fps went way down but the image quality was better with the new features (Keep in mind I took out my graphics card for this test)

My System
Intel Core 2 Duo 1.86
3.5 GB Ram
Vista Ultimate 32-bit
Intel DG965WH Motherboard
#9 Croquant on 27 Jul 2007 - 00:02
On-board graphics chips are fine for most uses, but they suck for gaming unless you're playing old games on it. Everybody knows that.
(1 reply) #10 WarLuigi on 27 Jul 2007 - 05:20
As a user posted previously. Console gaming is the way to go. Keep the pc for work and such.
#10.1 theyarecomingforyou on 27 Jul 2007 - 10:17
No. The biggest advantage to the PC is that it can handle multiple tasks and so there is better value for money. You can watch movies, browse the web, burn DVDs, email, game, use it for multimedia production, print, etc - on a console you can just game and the graphics generally aren't as good. There is also a different focus on consoles, with games being much more arcadey and typically having less depth. Sure if you only have a PC for gaming it will be more expensive that a console but few people do.
#11 Atlonite on 28 Jul 2007 - 01:02
and how many Socalled consoles do you see running with anything but computer hardware designed to plug into your tv an seeing as how any graphics card built in the last 8yrs has been able to do that then why should i buy a console when i have a 5000 thou gaming machine already at hand .... scuse the rant ..... as for the running of games on igp's i think its realy not a good idea as stated above without the new driver crap resolution and looks but playable just with the new driver great looks but unplayable either way its a loose loose situation sorry if you own one and think differant but thats the bottom line onboard graphics just plain suck for anything but office apps and the occasional dvd watching

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