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Microsoft Says No Windows Virtualization on Top of Linux

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 08 August 2007 - 16:03 · 12 comments & 3871 views

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Microsoft will not allow Windows Vista or Windows XP to be virtualized on top of Linux, Sam Ramji, the director of Microsoft's open-source software lab, said at the annual LinuxWorld Conference and Expo here Aug. 7. "What we have heard predominantly from customers is that they want to be able to mix and match their data center applications, but we haven't seen significant demand for Linux applications on the desktop or for desktop virtualization on top of Linux," Ramji said in an address titled "Linux and Windows Interoperability: On the Metal and on the Wire."

But, he said that while he does hear a lot of requests for this from developers in the Linux community, the feedback Microsoft is getting from customers and its Interoperability Executive Customer Council with regard to the desktop is that they want .Net and Java interoperability.

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#1 Sawyer12 on 08 Aug 2007 - 16:07
How are they going to stop it?
#2 Budious on 08 Aug 2007 - 16:14
Not enough demand for Microsoft on Linux... where is the demand for Microsoft products on Macintosh and how does it compare to the numbers for Linux and why the preference for a BSD* operating system over Linux, perhaps it's because Microsoft finds it hard to severe their ties from the Xenix days.
(1 reply) #3 vetmarkjensen on 08 Aug 2007 - 16:46
After reading the article, it seems that the real statement is that "No plans to offer...".

The EULAs of the higher-end Vistas all allow it to run virtualized. The lower ends expressly forbid it. And all previous Windows releases I am aware of had an EULA allowed it to run virtualized.
#3.1 theyarecomingforyou on 08 Aug 2007 - 16:51
Indeed. I read the article and figured it was just dodgy wording as everything else suggested that there was just no demand for it.
(1 reply) #4 theyarecomingforyou on 08 Aug 2007 - 16:50
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The long-term strategy goal is to produce mutual respect and understanding between Microsoft and the open-source software community so that both can act responsibly together for the sake of better software, human potential and inclusion, he said.

Then stop creating FUD campaigns trying to discredit Linux! Microsoft has no interest in working closer with Linux to benefit the consumer - it only cares about profit. For every progressive and worthwhile thing I hear from Microsoft I hear something from another division counteracting it. The move to limit DX10 to Vista is a perfect example of a backward moved designed to manipulate and control consumers. I know they have some "technical" excuses but then the same was said about IE being too tightly integrated into Windows.
#4.1 MrCobra on 08 Aug 2007 - 23:51
+1
(1 reply) #5 C_Guy on 08 Aug 2007 - 16:50
I don't know anything about programming but isn't Java supposed to be platform independant (interoperable by nature)?
#5.1 Ledward on 11 Aug 2007 - 09:56
That is semi-correct. Java is platform agnostic in the sense that Sun Microsystems writes a virtual machine (a system emulator) that runs Java bytecode for every platform. Each JVM is written specifically for each platform, therefore all the JVMs are physically different code. For the (very few) platforms that don't have this VM, Java will not "run" on that system.

.NET is the opposite- it is language agnostic (and platform dependent). Where Java will compile to bytecode which runs on any JVM, .NET (which is a collection of programming languages) will all compile to the SAME bytecode and will run on any system which has a .NET implementation (which is currently only Windows).
#6 Croquant on 08 Aug 2007 - 17:46
Gee, what a surprise: Microsoft doesn't like Linux.
What else is new?
(2 replies) #7 xploit1030 on 08 Aug 2007 - 19:09
Furthermore the article is geared towards Windows Desktop running on top of Linux, not Windows Server.
#7.1 Glassed Silver on 09 Aug 2007 - 01:00
whoaw, makes a lot of sense to run commercially used servers virtualized...
i assume, no1's asking for it, that is why they dont talk about server 2003, server 2008

Glassed Silver:mac
#7.2 Ledward on 11 Aug 2007 - 09:59
Quote - (Glassed Silver said @ #7.1)
whoaw, makes a lot of sense to run commercially used servers virtualized...
i assume, no1's asking for it, that is why they dont talk about server 2003, server 2008

Glassed Silver:mac

What are you talking about, people not asking for Server 2003? While Server 2003 isn't big in the web server division, it is almost solo-dominant in the network server division (because of Active Directory).

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