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Analysts Cast Doubt on 20% Mac Market Share Claims

Sagittarius   on 11 August 2007 - 02:18 · 31 comments & 22565 views

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Data from two leading research firms has cast doubt on claims that Apple's retail market share has reached 21%, a claim originating from a 1394 Trade Association release praising Apple's use of Firewire 800 ports on the new iMac. The industry group claimed that Apple's share in the consumer market had reached 21%. A group spokesperson confirmed the figure to vnunet.com, citing a CNBC report that also listed HP's consumer retail market share at 37 per cent and Dell's at 11%. The group contends that the figures are only for retail sales, though that would still not account for an 11% share from Dell, which does virtually all its business directly.

However, data from other research firms appears to contradict 1394 Trade Association's claims. IDC analyst Doug Bell told vnunet.com that his firm recorded Apple's consumer market share for all of 2006 at just 6.3%, with HP's at 27.5%and Dell's at 25.5%. In the first quarter of 2007, Apple saw its market share grow, but only to 7.6%. IDC does not yet have data from Q2. Research firm Gartner also cast doubt on the possibility that Apple's market share had exploded. The firm did not yet have consumer-specific data for Q2 available, but the company did not have Apple among the top five in total sales. CNBC could not be reached to verify the aforementioned report.

Apple said that it sold 1.517 million Macintoshes in Q2, representing just 2.5%of the 61 million PC sales logged by Gartner. HP's market share was listed at 18.2%and Dell's at 15%.

News source: vnunet.com

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(1 reply) #1 Axon on 11 Aug 2007 - 03:07
I love my macs, but I'd be hard pressed to believe any report that cites more than a 10% market share. The 7.6% sounds about right.

-Ax
#1.1 dagamer34 on 11 Aug 2007 - 03:14
Quote - (Axon said @ #1)
I love my macs, but I'd be hard pressed to believe any report that cites more than a 10% market share. The 7.6% sounds about right.

-Ax


It depends on whether they count business and education sales because HP isn't as prominent in that field as Dell and Apple are. And based on what I've seen on my campus, Apple is really accelerating its sales.
(8 replies) #2 internetworld7 on 11 Aug 2007 - 03:54
Fist of all, never question Apple.

And finally, always remember most importantly, Steve Jobs can do no wrong.

I thought we knew this guys?
#2.1 MrCobra on 11 Aug 2007 - 04:58
#2.2 LTD on 11 Aug 2007 - 06:00
From a design, usability, OS stability, malware-free, product-desirability perspective, Jobs puts other leaders in this industry to utter shame.

There's a good reason for such brand loyalty when it comes to Apple. e
#2.3 HawkMan on 11 Aug 2007 - 08:08
Quote - (LTD said @ #2.2)
From a design, usability, OS stability, malware-free, product-desirability perspective, Jobs puts other leaders in this industry to utter shame.

There's a good reason for such brand loyalty when it comes to Apple. e


oh, hah,... wow... that was great.... I lost my breath for ages from that laugh...

there's a difference between brand loyalty and blind loyalty when you look at everythign your company does as th best and refuse to look at all the things others do better.
#2.4 RealFduch on 11 Aug 2007 - 09:50
Quote - (LTD said @ #2.2)
From a design, usability, OS stability, malware-free, product-desirability perspective, Jobs puts other leaders in this industry to utter shame.

There's a good reason for such brand loyalty when it comes to Apple. e

LOLed hard.
Now I really desire to use Steve Jobs. He's so well-designed and loyal.
#2.5 Foub on 11 Aug 2007 - 10:09
Quote - (LTD said @ #2.2)
From a design, usability, OS stability, malware-free, product-desirability perspective, Jobs puts other leaders in this industry to utter shame.

There's a good reason for such brand loyalty when it comes to Apple. e


You can say the same things about a rock as well.
#2.6 Croquant on 11 Aug 2007 - 13:06
Quote - (Foub said @ #2.5)
Quote - (LTD said @ #2.2)
From a design, usability, OS stability, malware-free, product-desirability perspective, Jobs puts other leaders in this industry to utter shame.

There's a good reason for such brand loyalty when it comes to Apple. e


You can say the same things about a rock as well.

Except a rock doesn't cost more than it should just because it carries the Apple logo on it. Unless Apple starts selling iRocks.
#2.7 redmosquito on 11 Aug 2007 - 15:46
Quote - (Croquant said @ #2.6)
Except a rock doesn't cost more than it should just because it carries the Apple logo on it. Unless Apple starts selling iRocks.

this argument is like telling vegans "why do you eat vegetables, they have feelings too".

it comes right out of the kindergarden.

there are serveral comparisons that proved that argument to be wrong.
(and dont start poiting out that there is no scientific proof that vegetables DONT have feelings, please.)
#2.8 Foub on 11 Aug 2007 - 21:00
Quote - (Croquant said @ #2.6)
Except a rock doesn't cost more than it should just because it carries the Apple logo on it. Unless Apple starts selling iRocks.


Or they take Iron Pyrite and label it as gold.
#3 RAID 0 on 11 Aug 2007 - 05:06
^ hahahhaha. Sometimes.
(2 replies) #4 ev0| on 11 Aug 2007 - 05:57
macs are definately picking up. i have a macbook pro and it's a really nice machine.
#4.1 Foub on 11 Aug 2007 - 10:10
That's because they're PCs now. If you can't beat them, join them.
#4.2 PsykX on 11 Aug 2007 - 22:52
Haha, they still have a lot of differences. They did that because IBM couldn't catch up with Intel and they had no clear roadmap planned.
#5 MrWante on 11 Aug 2007 - 06:09
I have a Performa 475, and I love it....
(2 replies) #6 Ledward on 11 Aug 2007 - 09:26
1394, hrm. Does anyone HAVE a Firewire device?
#6.1 Croquant on 11 Aug 2007 - 13:06
If you have a DV Camcorder, you do.
#6.2 Havin_it on 11 Aug 2007 - 15:12
Quote - (Ledward said @ #6)
1394, hrm. Does anyone HAVE a Firewire device?


I have a Firewire port... on my PC. I thought it was going to be a portal to a world of soon-to-be-unveiled hardware goodness back in Dec 2003.

...

Still waiting
(3 replies) #7 Beastage on 11 Aug 2007 - 09:27
more Apple lies, tho this time Apple not directly behind them

http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php

of course its possible that all those other mac buyers never used osx and just bootcamp into XP/Vista
#7.1 Foub on 11 Aug 2007 - 10:12
My sister only uses XP Home on her new Macbook.
#7.2 PsykX on 11 Aug 2007 - 22:52
These stats make no sense at all :|
#7.3 Beastage on 12 Aug 2007 - 07:44
Quote - (PsykX said @ #7.2)
These stats make no sense at all :|


stats dont supposed to make sense these are made from usually about ~30m unique visits to many websites.
(2 replies) #8 Foub on 11 Aug 2007 - 10:15
Here is something ironic. In the Apple Vs. PC commercials Apple is always going on about how the PCs are only for serious applications, but right now I'm dual-booting Ubuntu and a nLited version of XP. I only have this version of XP on to PLAY GAMES. In fact there is a far great variety of games for the PC, using Windows, than ANY OTHER computer and OS combined. If it weren't for this I would go completely over to Linux instead.
#8.1 theyarecomingforyou on 11 Aug 2007 - 11:05
Indeed, but it's not like Apple can exactly go "yeah PCs are great for games and Macs are rubbish" or accept that more people play on a PC than a Mac. Nope; instead they go for misleading low blows. Call me when they stop tying the OS to hardware and when you can actually play most computer games on Mac.
#8.2 Foub on 11 Aug 2007 - 21:05
Quote - (theyarecomingforyou said @ #8.1)
Indeed, but it's not like Apple can exactly go "yeah PCs are great for games and Macs are rubbish" or accept that more people play on a PC than a Mac. Nope; instead they go for misleading low blows. Call me when they stop tying the OS to hardware and when you can actually play most computer games on Mac.


The only ad that they even remotely got right about Windows was for the UAC "feature" under Vista. Linux does UAC far better and WAY less annoying as well.
(3 replies) #9 Croquant on 11 Aug 2007 - 13:09
Ever since Apple switched to Intel chips, a Mac is just a PC that runs Mac OS X.
#9.1 redmosquito on 11 Aug 2007 - 15:51
no. its an all-in-one computer with no driver mess and a very good, yet not perfect OS preinstalled, giving you the possibility to boot windows aswell for having the best of both worlds on a very powerful intel-platform. that is good because we all know that NO OS is perfect.

and dont call me fanboy, you apple-haters are no better.

peace!
#9.2 billyea on 11 Aug 2007 - 18:23
Quote - (redmosquito said @ #9.1)
no. its an all-in-one computer with no driver mess and a very good, yet not perfect OS preinstalled, giving you the possibility to boot windows aswell for having the best of both worlds on a very powerful intel-platform. that is good because we all know that NO OS is perfect.

and dont call me fanboy, you apple-haters are no better.

peace!

every part after the 'no' is correct, but croquant is also correct in stating that a Mac is essentially a PC
#9.3 C_Guy on 13 Aug 2007 - 14:43
"its an all-in-one computer with no driver mess and a very good, yet not perfect OS preinstalled, giving you the possibility to boot windows aswell for having the best of both worlds on a very powerful intel-platform"

You just described a PC, good for you!
#10 C_Guy on 13 Aug 2007 - 14:47
Do you really need an analyst to tell you that Macs are well under the double-digit market-share?

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