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Porn Site Sues Microsoft

Bezhou Feng   on 11 August 2007 - 02:02 · 29 comments & 16110 views

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Apparently not content after losing legal battles with both Amazon's A9 and Google, soft-core porn site Perfect 10 filed last Tuesday in a California district court against Microsoft's MSN search engine, alleging that the engine is providing links and images to sites that are illegally hosting its content. Perfect 10 claims that the MSN image search engine creates unauthorised thumbnails of Perfect 10's premium content, as well as including links to see full-size versions of the images for free. In addition, the site also claims that the search engine is finding passwords to its paid-for content on other sites, thereby allowing it to access Perfect 10's pay-only material, and that Microsoft is receiving money through advertising from websites that are illegally hosting the images.

"Microsoft has rejected efforts to reach a settlement and our business is being destroyed," said Norm Zada, president of Perfect 10. Zada claims the search engines are responsible as they make it easy for surfers to find infringing content, and is costing the company $4m a month. Although earlier it looked like Perfect 10 might win its case against Google and Amazon after a judge ruled that the two companies could be partially liable for infringement for displaying the thumbnails, the decision was struck down by a judge for the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, who cited "fair-use" principles and pointed out that the full-sized images were not hosted by the search engines. Perfect 10 is appealing the court overruling, but as yet no court date has been set.

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#1 mrp04 on 11 Aug 2007 - 02:19
Wow these people complain and bitch all the time! Why not secure their member-only section and stop suing for extra money. Most people who get free porn never would pay anyways!
(1 reply) #2 VinnyJ5 on 11 Aug 2007 - 02:31
someone doesn't know how to use robots.txt and .htaccess
#2.1 +azcodemonkey on 11 Aug 2007 - 02:54
That was my first thought, too.
(2 replies) #3 excalpius on 11 Aug 2007 - 02:39
This is apparently cheaper than paying for real publicity. And if anyone ever settles with this scumbag, he makes a profit. The only one currently making money on this fiasco are his attorneys.

Why does this site, or any site for that matter, give this slime merchant the press he is so clearly craving? Sigh.
#3.1 theyarecomingforyou on 11 Aug 2007 - 11:56
Indeed... this is just a cheap advertising campaign.
#3.2 Nose Nuggets on 13 Aug 2007 - 21:22
Close. Its just easier to prosecute google or msn then it is to track down the people actually hosting the 'illigal' content. what perfect 10 SHOULD be doing is thanking there lucky stars they have a fantastic service like google to track down all the people illegally hosting their content!

but alas.
#4 sevanoaks2005 on 11 Aug 2007 - 02:53
No offense, but this is pathetic...
(4 replies) #5 Eis on 11 Aug 2007 - 03:43
Four million a month? I don't believe you.
#5.1 farmeunit on 11 Aug 2007 - 03:57
I'm with you. And they shouldn't win because they can't secure their own site. Negligent on their part.
#5.2 Somnus on 11 Aug 2007 - 03:59
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Four million a month? I don't believe you.
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I do.

Some porn sites rake in more than 12 million a month. Perfect 10 is not in their league, but 4 million for their site?? Guaranteed. At one time CyberErotica.com was paying out over 5 million a month in just referral fees. VoyeurDorm was featured on a CNN as one of the top grossing adult websites on the internet at 15.8 million/month, and that was a few years ago.

The Adult Entertainment industry is HUGE money. 12.6 BILLION in 2005, 16 BILLION last year, and surely 25-30% more this year. It is an ever growing business, and like they say... Sex sells.
#5.3 Eis on 11 Aug 2007 - 05:03
Quote - (Somnus said @ #5.2)
Quote - (Eis said @ #5)
Four million a month? I don't believe you.
'

I do.

Some porn sites rake in more than 12 million a month. Perfect 10 is not in their league, but 4 million for their site?? Guaranteed. At one time CyberErotica.com was paying out over 5 million a month in just referral fees. VoyeurDorm was featured on a CNN as one of the top grossing adult websites on the internet at 15.8 million/month, and that was a few years ago.

The Adult Entertainment industry is HUGE money. 12.6 BILLION in 2005, 16 BILLION last year, and surely 25-30% more this year. It is an ever growing business, and like they say... Sex sells.


Err, I never actually said I didn't believe they have a profit of over 4 million. I said I didn't believe they were losing 4 million dollars due to Microsoft search images. Quite different.
#5.4 Somnus on 11 Aug 2007 - 05:59
Quote - (Eis said @ #5.3)
Err, I never actually said I didn't believe they have a profit of over 4 million. I said I didn't believe they were losing 4 million dollars due to Microsoft search images. Quite different.


If you can estimate the number of hacked free accounts, the bandwidth used displaying images and other content by not securing their site, and the cost of manpower to actually track all their whining, 4 million is cheap.

I did a rough search on 5 search engines and there was enough content from Perfect 10 alone to make yourself a profitable adult site, let alone the other 500,000 websites who's images and content are readily displayed via image search.

Now do I think this is the search engines fault? Hell no. Secure your site, turn on hot-linking, do something for the love of god. Just don't whine when your content is all over the internet because of your own faulty actions.
#6 Akaruz on 11 Aug 2007 - 03:57
4million rupies ? pesos ? kwanzas ? monopoly money ?
(3 replies) #7 perochan on 11 Aug 2007 - 04:58
"going to msn live search..."
#7.1 +Berserk87 on 11 Aug 2007 - 06:16
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"going to msn live search..."


lol. that was my first thought.

how many people went to msn live search and put in perfect 10 after reading this
#7.2 Pupik on 11 Aug 2007 - 07:56
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Quote - (perochan said @ #7)
"going to msn live search..."


lol. that was my first thought.

how many people went to msn live search and put in perfect 10 after reading this

I'm not using Live.com, but I did went to Google and typed "http://www.perfect10.com/perfectten/p10_pages/members/index.html" (including the quotes).
You know, just for the research purpose
#7.3 MrCobra on 11 Aug 2007 - 10:07
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LOL!!! 60 year old Edna from the paint isle.
#8 gigapixels on 11 Aug 2007 - 05:10
Not Microsoft's fault, sorry. You'd think they'd learn after losing the same case twice...
(3 replies) #9 Phr34Ck on 11 Aug 2007 - 08:00
Of course it's MS's fault. Lets assume that they don't know how to secure their website, and ask MS to remove their results from their search engine, then MS should do it without questioning, and it should prevent such things in the future.
#9.1 MrCobra on 11 Aug 2007 - 10:25
It's Perfect 10's fault for not securing their site to begin with.
#9.2 +TCLN Ryster on 11 Aug 2007 - 13:06
Quote - (Phr34Ck said @ #1)
Of course it's MS's fault. Lets assume that they don't know how to secure their website, and ask MS to remove their results from their search engine, then MS should do it without questioning, and it should prevent such things in the future.
No it's not Microsofts fault. There is a way to stop your content being indexed and any monkey with half a brain can do it. It's called Robots.txt
#9.3 Jugalator on 13 Aug 2007 - 06:24
The thumbnailed images in Microsoft's pages (and Google's) are believed to fall under fair use laws so I don't think what Microsoft does is anything illegal, and thus they won't have to follow their demands because they were illegal. In that case, MS and Google wouldn't be able to index nearly a thing.

It's Perfect 10 that needs to define what search engines can index.
#10 Samboini on 11 Aug 2007 - 10:54
I'd never pay for porn anyway.
#11 Croquant on 11 Aug 2007 - 13:10
I get all my porn from a snipped link.
'casue it's free. And they're not stupid enough to sue Microsoft.

Last edited by Joel on 11 Aug 2007 - 16:32
#12 GEIST on 11 Aug 2007 - 16:37
Ah yea, sue the search engine company instead of the people who actually stole the content.
#13 kyrio on 12 Aug 2007 - 15:20
It's funny how my site that hosts pornographic images doesn't have any results in any image search and yet these morons can't figure out how to use a robots.txt.

Maybe I should sue Google, MS, et all for listening to the 10 characters in my robots.txt and not indexing my site and giving me free advertizing.
(1 reply) #14 sevanoaks2005 on 12 Aug 2007 - 18:24
Why is everyone battering Microsoft? If the porn company doesn't secure their web pages, of course it is going to happen. Seriously, if you don't know how to secure a website, then why do you have one in the first place.
#14.1 Jugalator on 13 Aug 2007 - 06:25
"Why is everyone battering Microsoft?"

Huh... :p
#15 EJocys on 13 Aug 2007 - 14:28
MSN Search - biggest porno site ever (except Google)

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