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Newsflash: All corporations are greedy!

Microsoft charges extra for the features in Ultimate and so forth, when the DVD contains it all, even for people who buy Home.

Red Hat charges for support licensing on free software.

Businesses are in the business of making money to provide a return on investment for their stockholders.

and how infinitely ignorant a comment like that is!!

As Markjensen posted, ALL corporations will find a way to squeeze one last dollar out of every product they deliver.... even if it's a free one to begin with.


Not sure if most people do this, but use this as an example on backing up. Always keep a copy of the previous version of any software you download..... that way, if you have issues with the new one, you can reinstall.

Or just go here: http://www.oldversion.com/

This is real greedy of Apple - why do you HAVE to buy a ringtone from iTunes? Especially if you already own perfectly good versions of the same thing that could be made into the same ringtone.

Microsoft are charging for extra features with Vista, you buy a single license for a specific version - you are not buying all the information on the Disc to use anyway you wish... similar if you want two installations of Windows or OSX you have to buy it twice (or volume license). - you can buy satellite/cable tv that is able to get all the stations/channels ... but you have to pay extra to recieve some of them. Windows could sell all different discs but it just makes upgrading more complex and slower, and would also require more manufacturing or several different discs.

In the UK a lot of support help numbers costs even on paid services let alone free stuff... and a lot of free stuff is usually provided 'as is' without any support... so really RedHat even providing support is more than acceptable.

^^^ Exactly! You have the media with all of the "Ultimate" code in it. But you have an agreement (license) with Microsoft, and they have the right to only allow certain use, for example, Home Premium. And with the iPhone, it is physically capable of playing 3rd party ringtones, but your license/contract with them specifies the use requires ringtones to be purchased through iTunes.

I agree with everyone here that it sucks, please don't take my comments as saying Apple is a great company for doing this. They are just a company out to make every dollar they can.

If it says in the contract you must buy rintones from Apple, thats about as insane as me creating a phone where you must buy images from a set of clipart I have.

lol

Last edited by J a d o O n on 10 Sep 2007 - 19:04

who said anything about microsoft?!!! we are talking about phones here.

EVERY phone manufacturer have that feature for free.

and not only mp3... AAC.... WMA
actually even windows mobile lets you use music as a MP3!!!

even a cheap 100$-50$ nokia 2630 moto v3 lets you do that

I'm glad somebody else thought "why the heck is he talking about Vista?" - it's far more sensible to compare like for like - Windows Mobile versus iPhone. No such 'lock in' exists on any Windows Mobile phone - heck, you can even write *applications* for them. Staggering. Sure, corps are out there to make money but I think it's a reasonable expectation that your mobile will allow some level of user customisation without needed to give the manu. money each time to do so. Is there even another mobile phone out there with such a restriction thesedays? If MS did this with their ZunePhone then they'd be widely derrided. Apple does it and you spread your buttcheeks and say "yes please"?

Last edited by dangel on 11 Sep 2007 - 09:30

LMAO!!!

It still amazes me that apple can get away with this crap.

If you didn't figure it out, let me spell it out for you. I wasn't comparing exact feature sets. Obviously Red Hat's "support" charges are nothing like ringtones. I am sure you figured that out, and should have been able to see that the list wasn't comparing feature-to-feature.

It was a general commentary that companies are in business to make money. And they do so by charging people for whatever they can. In each of the cases, I mentioned an item that can otherwise be "free".
* Ringtones
* Software that is already on the DVD and just needs the right code to authorize it
* Support on Linux installs

I am sure if you take a minute, you will see what I mean.

I was about to say... I remember when you used to be able to COMPOSE your own ringtones before those money grabbing corporate companies noticed that they could sell ringtones and remove the compose feature... and I see plenty of phones in the UK that dont have MP3 ringtones... so... ?

What you mean it's not fair that you first pay en extreme premium for a smartphone that doesn't qualify as a smartphone, then you also have to use an extra special more expensive thanany other subscription phone subscription for this "premium" phone, that you can't use any music as a ringtone...


Sometimes I wonder if Apple even want peopel to buy their phone. or are they just testing how much they can abuse their own customers and users before they look elsewhere, that way they can balance just on the line for maximum abuse and profit for brand name abuse.

+1

For every great thing Apple has done there are five stupid things like this to match, designed purely to irritate, fleece or restrict customers.