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HD VMD to Battle Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 10 September 2007 - 14:04 · 39 comments & 20491 views

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At the Custom Electronic Design & Installation Association (CEDIA) trade show in Denver, a company promoting a new high-definition optical disc format demonstrated set-top players and high-definition movies that cost far less than ones that use the competing Blu-ray Disc or HD DVD formats. The only faux pas: Arriving late to a two-party format war that consumers are already reluctant to support.

Next month, New Medium Enterprises' 1080p set-top players, which use the HD VMD (Versatile Multilayer Disc) format, will go on sale on Amazon.com and in stores such as Radio Shack and Costco for around $150--about half the cost of the least-expensive 1080p HD DVD player, and perhaps a fourth the cost of the least-expensive Blu-ray player. The movies that work in them are similarly inexpensive.

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#1 TheReaperMan on 10 Sep 2007 - 14:17
looks interseting, maybe it will beat both of them. only time will tell
(2 replies) #2 +kraized on 10 Sep 2007 - 14:42
Do we really need another HD format.
#2.1 Lexcyn on 10 Sep 2007 - 15:54
My thoughts exactly. I mean seriously, at this late in the game they are not going to win.
#2.2 brent3000 on 10 Sep 2007 - 20:28
I think ill go make my own HD format now
#3 Jugalator on 10 Sep 2007 - 15:01
Woohoo!
#4 sirghost on 10 Sep 2007 - 15:15
Glad i have not chosen any of the formats yet. Kind of expected a third player to be thrown in the mix.
(1 reply) #5 vetSHoTTa35 on 10 Sep 2007 - 15:18
oh man, not another one. I mean i'm all for competition because in the end consumers win but can one just win already so i can start buying my collection again. I had like 400 DVDs but now it's gone and i want to start collecting again.
#5.1 phiberoptik on 10 Sep 2007 - 21:40
/sarcastic I'm pretty sure HD and Blu-Ray players will play regular DVDs... So before you throw them out, please PM me and I will give you my address to send those 400 (worthless to you) DVDs. Kthx.
#6 Neo003 on 10 Sep 2007 - 15:19
god damn it, not another one. leave some for next generation.
#7 +Boz on 10 Sep 2007 - 15:23
Too much money and support has been invested in both HD DVD and Blu-Ray for this new format to live up to it's expectations. Blue laser is here to stay and to be honest this format is very similar to HD DVD but lacks many features.

Second, we will see $150 HD DVD players this holiday season so this is really a non issue. The real thing is studio support and the pricing of discs and in that regard, we won't see any realistic pricing until any HD format gets mass adoptation.
#8 ThePitt on 10 Sep 2007 - 15:26
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new high-definition optical disc format demonstrated set-top players and high-definition movies that cost far less than ones that use the competing Blu-ray Disc or HD DVD formats.

AHAHAHA... Too LATE. Too LATE. The big companies dont know YET how to sell the new "high" definition format and you ppl come with this now?. HAHAHAHA. Plus the sellings are not so good like hollywood expect, so, your format could die alone and in peace
(4 replies) #9 TickleOnTheTum on 10 Sep 2007 - 15:28
For the average Joe on the street it all comes down to price. They don't care if one format can squuze out an extra pixel per second or offer .5 dB better sound! If this gets into to a lot of shops it's going to do well, IF the studios bring out the right films, etc. for it.
#9.1 bbfc_uk on 10 Sep 2007 - 15:56
Quote - (TickleOnTheTum said @ #9)
For the average Joe on the street it all comes down to price. They don't care if one format can squuze out an extra pixel per second or offer .5 dB better sound! If this gets into to a lot of shops it's going to do well, IF the studios bring out the right films, etc. for it.


I totally agree with you! To the avergae joe, its all about price - thats the most important factor that drives people to buy most things!
#9.2 Glassed Silver on 10 Sep 2007 - 16:29
actually... average joe cares about which movies are there for which standard...
this very much sounds like a format in which youre very locked into one "vendor" (-> movie studio...)
i dont get why they felt they had to add a HD in front of that VMD which sound ok, but that HD makes it sound annoyingly difficult, not that i dont get it, but it just sounds like it was made up of crap

Glassed Silver:mac
#9.3 sin-ergy on 10 Sep 2007 - 17:07
The average Joe is very ****ing confused right now.
#9.4 twistedddx on 11 Sep 2007 - 12:46
If they dont care for better quality, why wouldnt they just stay with DVD?(which many are infact doing)
**** tv's and **** tv speakers can not realize the difference of these new formats, so there is zero gain. For those of us with decent gear, we want to squeeze each dot out at any cost.
You seem confused about who is buying these things. HD is niche and will remain that way until new tv's start to become more the norm in households, most peoples 68cm is going to last atleast another 5 years.
(1 reply) #10 Tha1 on 10 Sep 2007 - 16:13
Sorry for the ignorant question, but...

Is there any possibility of an all-format player, like LG did it? Not that i'm interested, even bcoz i don't know how long this one is gonna last...
Sorry for the bad english.
#10.1 theefool on 10 Sep 2007 - 20:20
Samsung BD-UP5000 at $1000.
(4 replies) #11 magik on 10 Sep 2007 - 16:15
I hate their logo.
#11.1 pjak on 10 Sep 2007 - 18:26

I see what you mean...
#11.2 TruckWEB on 10 Sep 2007 - 18:55
Quote - (magik said @ #11)
I hate their logo.


Who cares?? It's only a logo...
#11.3 +Dakkaroth on 11 Sep 2007 - 00:32
Quote - (TruckWEB said @ #11.2)
Quote - (magik said @ #11)
I hate their logo.


Who cares?? It's only a logo...


Doesn't mean you can't have an opinion on it.
#11.4 Croquant on 11 Sep 2007 - 05:07
Their logo looks like a reject from the 1970s.
(1 reply) #12 bob0r on 10 Sep 2007 - 17:02
My computer plays any format, any encoder..... i really dont care HOW HD movies come available on the market as long as they DO come on the market!
#12.1 TRC on 10 Sep 2007 - 17:45
So your computer has a Blu-Ray drive, HD DVD drive and will have an HD VMD drive if they make one? Personally I'd prefer having just one format.
#13 TRC on 10 Sep 2007 - 17:05
Why are they even wasting their time and money on this? Do they really think any studios are going to support them?
#14 TruckWEB on 10 Sep 2007 - 18:54
You can talk about it in the forum also :

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=586924


It's a cheap new HD format, late to the party. But one can't deny that the low cost could lure some buyers... Not only for the player but the movies too.

(1 reply) #15 The Tjalian on 10 Sep 2007 - 19:42
YES I WAS WAITING FOR THIS FORMAT TO LAUNCH
#15.1 RAID 0 on 10 Sep 2007 - 23:43
Are you serious, or joking?
#16 RobertH on 10 Sep 2007 - 22:38
Hmmm interesting, i didnt expect something else to turn up like this.

Well if history is any indication, the format that will win is the one that costs the least. However, with the playstation3 putting blu-ray into homes that would otherwise just have bought a console and DVD player (ignoring sonys position vs 360 vs Wii btw) then its quite possible that the format with the largest user base in place could win.... maybe.

I think personally id like Blu-Ray to win (and then the prices to come down! so we dont have to go through something simular to this quite as soon :/ just my opinion though.
#17 illz55 on 10 Sep 2007 - 22:38
Competition rules!
(3 replies) #18 +The Cub on 11 Sep 2007 - 01:15
Blu-ray and HD DVD are dead - Red-ray and HHD DVVDD BVD ftw
#18.1 vetSHoTTa35 on 11 Sep 2007 - 01:30
lol. omg those are always so good Thanks...
#18.2 Croquant on 11 Sep 2007 - 05:22
You made me chuckle, The Cub. For that, you have my temporary gratitude.
#18.3 Octol on 11 Sep 2007 - 13:07
Quote - (Croquant said @ #18.2)
You made me chuckle, The Cub. For that, you have my temporary gratitude.

You obviously need the GSX4000 Gratitude Storage Device. Plug one of these babies into your brain stem and you'll never run out of gratitude again!
#19 RAID 0 on 11 Sep 2007 - 04:13
This might be a good backup medium. Who knows. It's cheap, so they say.
#20 Magallanes on 11 Sep 2007 - 15:55
It's not too later.. WII still uses old DVD.

;-)
#21 Shadrack on 11 Sep 2007 - 17:26
It isn't too late! I don't know what you people base your perception of time on.

DVD SELLS >> BLURAY + HDDVD SELLS

#22 TSThomas on 11 Sep 2007 - 18:49
Too late? Is that a joke? 300 sold more DVDs in its FIRST week of release than HD DVD + Blu-ray have sold in total since both formats were released! I'll repeat that - A single high-profile DVD sold more in 7 days than HD DVD & Blu-ray combined managed to sell in over a year!!!

The "format wars" are in no way over.

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