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Is Microsoft Office 2007 outselling Windows Vista?

Slimy   on 15 September 2007 - 02:24 · 42 comments & 20686 views

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Mary Jo Foley is speculating that sales of Office 2007 may be outpacing sales of Windows Vista. According to Microsoft’s July Vista sales pronouncement, the software giant had sold 60 million copies of Vista. Although the Office team hasn’t been talking sales figures since the simultaneous launch of the two products, according to information shared during a recent briefing with certain members of the French tech press, Microsoft allegedly has sold 70 million copies of Office 2007 to date. A Microsoft spokesperson noted: “It’s not our policy to confirm the license figures.” Assuming the numbers are correct, and Microsoft hasn’t denied them, Office 2007 may be outselling Vista or at the very least, keeping up.

Are there any Neowinians out there who skipped Vista but couldn’t resist an upgrade to the latest version of Microsoft Office?

News source: Mary Jo Foley's Blog

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(1 reply) #1 +Nightwind Hawk on 15 Sep 2007 - 02:34
I'm using Office 2007 on XP x64. Love it!
#1.1 BigCheese on 15 Sep 2007 - 07:45
Me too!
(4 replies) #2 amrinders87 on 15 Sep 2007 - 02:43
I am not surprised. Office 2007 doesn't cause any problems like Vista so its pretty safe upgrade.
#2.1 PGHammer on 15 Sep 2007 - 03:23
What you really mean is that Office 2007 isn't as much a victim of FUD as Vista. I upgraded to both Vista Ultimate and Office 2007 Enterprise, and have no real compatibility issues with either. However, Office 2007 is fully file-compatible with older versions of Office, so it's not as big an issue.
#2.2 Mr. Dee on 15 Sep 2007 - 15:48
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What you really mean is that Office 2007 isn't as much a victim of FUD as Vista. I upgraded to both Vista Ultimate and Office 2007 Enterprise, and have no real compatibility issues with either. However, Office 2007 is fully file-compatible with older versions of Office, so it's not as big an issue.


You mean your Company upgraded you to Office 2007 "Enterprise". As far as I'm aware that SKU is only available under Microsoft Volume Licensing. If you acquired under your schools MS Campus Agreement through Select Licensing, its probably with you until you graduate. I don't think you get perpetual licensing with it.
#2.3 toadeater on 15 Sep 2007 - 21:41
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What you really mean is that Office 2007 isn't as much a victim of FUD as Vista.


Right... so everyone on every internet forum on Earth that is posting detailed information about their problems with Vista is just doing it to spread FUD? I guess you also must believe that these people are all secretly in league with each other, like there's some kind of master plan to it all? Yes, it's sooo much fun to spend hours looking for help about Vista's numerous problems--that XP does not have--no wonder all the kids are jumping on the bandwagon.
#2.4 PGHammer on 16 Sep 2007 - 12:36
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Quote - (PGHammer said @ #2.1)
What you really mean is that Office 2007 isn't as much a victim of FUD as Vista.


Right... so everyone on every internet forum on Earth that is posting detailed information about their problems with Vista is just doing it to spread FUD? I guess you also must believe that these people are all secretly in league with each other, like there's some kind of master plan to it all? Yes, it's sooo much fun to spend hours looking for help about Vista's numerous problems--that XP does not have--no wonder all the kids are jumping on the bandwagon.


The only *numerous problems* I've seen are with regards to driver support, and *that* is on the hardware vendors, not Microsoft. As far as application (or even game) compatibility problems, *I* actually haven't had any. I have older hardware (most of it two years old or more) and a *very* eclectic mix of software, yet I have exactly zero compatibility complaints with either Vista *or* Office. I've seen this song and dance three times now (first with Windows 2000, then with XP, and now with Vista) as far as operating systems go, and each time a new Microsoft OS ships, the grumbling (mostly over drivers) renews itself. Also, *never mind* that there is very little of Windows XP in Vista (largely for reasons of operating-system stability) and *never mind* that quite a few software vendors continue to violate the strictures of proper coding of Windows applications and continue to add DLLs willy-nilly all over the boot drive (as well as including features uniquely for a specific non-Vista OS).

And I didn't say that *everyone* was spreading FUD about Vista; I merely said that FUD was being spread. Whether anyone likes it or not (and it's gotten Very Fashionable to be in the *not* category), Microsoft remains the 800-pound gorilla in both operating systems and applications (and in both cases is roundly despised for it, regardless of *how* it got there). I run Vista Ultimate and Office 2007 because they actually let me do what I want to do with less muss or fuss than *any* version of Windows XP (and that includes Media Center Edition 2005, which I upgraded from) and previous version of Office. OpenOffice? Doesn't include e-mail support (worse, it has file-compatibliity issues with WordPerfect documents, a sin that Office hasn't committed for the last three versions); I have it on my system because I write fan-fiction, and one particular Web site requires submissions be in OO's file format (however, I still use Word to do most of the heavy-lifting). Penelope (the open-source version of Eudora)? Not as polished as Outlook (worse, it lacks support for Cloudmark, my e-mail filtering plug-in for Outlook).

Based on my experiences, the Vista/Office one-two is as solid as it gets, and I recommend it without reservation.
#3 1759 on 15 Sep 2007 - 03:15
Seeing that 2007 can run on XP just fine, it sort of makes sense that it would be outselling Vista, considering the XP userbase is much, much larger.

As for 2007 not causing problems, I've seen quite a few with the new versions of Access and Outlook.
#4 MaceX on 15 Sep 2007 - 03:51
I do like Office 2007, although there is a steep learning curve. Once you get a hang of the new ribbon and the layout of everything, working is a breeze.
(2 replies) #5 Melfster on 15 Sep 2007 - 06:26
Does anybody have a pie chart of the current installed base xp and vista?
#5.1 mattrobs on 15 Sep 2007 - 07:49
No, but now I can easily design that flow chart with Office 2007!
#5.2 toadeater on 15 Sep 2007 - 22:02
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Does anybody have a pie chart of the current installed base xp and vista?


I'm not saying this is very accurate, but judging from browser usage from w3schools, Vista's share is 3.6%, compared to Linux with 3.4%, XP with 74.6%, and Macs with 4%. Win2K is at 6%.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

Another site has similar stats for Vista.

1 Windows XP 83.36%
2 Windows 2000 3.87%
3 Mac OS X 3.71%
4 Windows Vista 3.66%
5 Linux 1.37%

http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php

This is other site gives Vista 3.75%, so judging from all three sites, it seems 3.5%-4.0% is probably what it is?

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.asp...e=Q&qpsp=33
#6 DJ Prem on 15 Sep 2007 - 06:32
Microsoft Office 2007 Ultimate on Micrososft Windows XP Professional x86
(1 reply) #7 Budious on 15 Sep 2007 - 06:49
Microsoft Office 2007 Home and Student ($120) on Microsoft Vista Business x86 OEM ($140) ... the price was right!
#7.1 Shadrack on 16 Sep 2007 - 16:19
You can also get Vista Home Premium x86 OEM ($120) if you prefer to have the Media Center features over the domain and remote desktop features.

I don't know why anyone would possibly want the retail version of Vista over the OEM. I would rather use a forum like this one for Windows support than call Microsoft.
(2 replies) #8 JamesCherrill on 15 Sep 2007 - 07:48
I'm running Office 2007, but have given up on Vista (network hardware incompatibilities).
#8.1 cork1958 on 15 Sep 2007 - 09:20
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I'm running Office 2007, but have given up on Vista (network hardware incompatibilities).


Same thing here. Had Vista for 2 days. It blows major chunks, IMO!
#8.2 Krazzer on 15 Sep 2007 - 16:34
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I'm running Office 2007, but have given up on Vista (network hardware incompatibilities).


Same thing here. Had Vista for 2 days. It blows major chunks, IMO!


Wow, a whopping two days to learn and explore vista, good thing it was a real in depth testing.

I can't even break in a pair of shoes in two days.

#9 *John* on 15 Sep 2007 - 09:03
Windows Vista Ultimate OEM £120 & Microsoft Office 2007 Home and Student £99

Job done, very very happy
(1 reply) #10 plastikaa on 15 Sep 2007 - 09:33
Microsoft Office for University Students <£40 .... please do the same with Windows Vista Microsoft!
#10.1 The2 on 15 Sep 2007 - 10:11
Vista business is free on my college
#11 Julius Caro on 15 Sep 2007 - 10:29
Office 2007 rocks, and vista doesn't. But I haven't had any major problems with vista either
#12 Angel Blue01 on 15 Sep 2007 - 12:28
I've bought 5 new PCs with Vista. I have absolutly no reason to buy Office 2007 neither do my clients.
#13 RAINMAN on 15 Sep 2007 - 15:26
Vista business + office 2007 free on school MSDN
#14 +Brandon Live on 15 Sep 2007 - 15:57
Why would this surprise anyone? It's much easier to upgrade Office. Windows mostly comes on new PCs, especially when the hardware requirements are steeper as with Vista - whereas Office will run on most anything the last version ran on.
#15 shawnie53 on 15 Sep 2007 - 16:01
I was so excited the day I got Vista Ultimate... Installed it, and then installed Office 2007 Pro 2 days later... After 3 months of being plagued with problems, I upgraded to Windows XP, however, I installed Office 2007 on it, and have never been happier!
#16 JaSoN BouRNe on 15 Sep 2007 - 22:11
win xp sp2 + openoffice + google docs & sheets...
#17 Cookie on 16 Sep 2007 - 01:12
I got office 2007 home edition and love it. Very stable and extremely useful upgrade. I'm still on xp. Wont be considering upgrading OS until I see sp1.
(1 reply) #18 +Dakkaroth on 16 Sep 2007 - 04:41
Honestly, even if Vista was free, I wouldn't get it. Okay, that's a lie, I'd get it...

Because free coasters are great. Thanks AOL.
#18.1 billyea on 16 Sep 2007 - 06:05
If you don't need another coaster, I'd gladly take that so-called piece of junk operating system off your hands and use it myself.
(3 replies) #19 Joni_78 on 16 Sep 2007 - 07:00
Well it's a known fact that companies don't upgrade to this generation of Windows because they alway skip one generation. Same with Office, everyone skipped 2003 so now they upgrade to 2007.
#19.1 +Kirkburn on 16 Sep 2007 - 14:24
"Well-known fact" .... what complete bollocks.
#19.2 Joni_78 on 16 Sep 2007 - 15:17
It is. That's what they teached us at school atleast. It's not considered reasonable for companies to upgrade every new version. That's why majority of the companies went from NT -> XP and skipped W2k, they won't upgrade from XP to Vista. Office has been upgraded 97 -> 2002, now they will upgrade to 2007.
#19.3 whocares78 on 17 Sep 2007 - 02:57
well known by who exactly, companies always skip a generation.???? maybe cheap assed companies with no money. everyone skipped 2003. umm once again OK.

You have absolutely no idea really do you ?? get a job in the real world and stop believeing what your teacher says


LMOA it is true, they taught (not teached, maybe they should do some more teaching on english and leave the computer teaching to people that have some sort of clue) him at school, we all klnow teachers know best when it comes to upgrading your software.

dude tell your teacher to get in touch with the real world, we all know what the say about teachers. those that can do, those that can't teach.
(3 replies) #20 GoatOfMendez on 16 Sep 2007 - 14:30
Office 2007 is very much like Vista: Slow and is full of crap you don't need or want.
#20.1 billyea on 16 Sep 2007 - 20:10
I think the whole goal of the Office 07 release was to streamline it actually.
#20.2 whocares78 on 17 Sep 2007 - 02:52
you do realise they didn't actually add any new features so to speak, it was all about making the things it already did easier to do and find. so if you consider 0ffice 2007 slow and full of crap, then you really should think the same of 2003
#20.3 GoatOfMendez on 17 Sep 2007 - 09:54
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you do realise they didn't actually add any new features so to speak, it was all about making the things it already did easier to do and find. so if you consider 0ffice 2007 slow and full of crap, then you really should think the same of 2003


Yes I do 2003 and 2007.

2007 is definitely slower, plus they insist on trying to make things idiot proof (Like Vista) and just make things more and more unintuative.

Its take weeks just to get rid of that horrible font they use . e.g theres no way to apply the font setting to all views.

Useless

Last edited by GoatOfMendez on 17 Sep 2007 - 12:47
#21 bobbba on 16 Sep 2007 - 15:37
how is this news? Why would anybody be concerned about how an Office Suite's sales compare with an Operating System's???
(1 reply) #22 whocares78 on 17 Sep 2007 - 02:51
vista - Sux
Office 2007 - Brilliant
#22.1 Naughty Dog on 17 Sep 2007 - 06:00
Vista - sux for me on 754 AMD K8, better on Core 2 CPU and I agree drivers suck even from nvidia even though they at least improved as well as creative (not)
Office 07 - Cannot live without...
#23 Biney59 on 17 Sep 2007 - 16:53
You guys are all crazy. The answer is simple.

Very little cracking needed on Office compared to Vista.

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