Apple Inc. kicked off the month in which it plans to launch its new Mac OS X 10.5, "Leopard," OS by reminding users that the beta license for Boot Camp -- the utility that runs Windows XP or Vista on an Intel Mac -- will expire as soon as the new operating system ships. The news was no secret: Apple had spelled it out on the Boot Camp download page and in the EULA (end user license agreement) included with the beta and posted on the Apple site. "The term of this License...will terminate automatically without notice from Apple upon the next commercial release of the Apple Software, or December 31, 2007, whichever occurs first," the EULA states.
According to Apple, Windows partitions already installed on Macs using Boot Camp will continue to work, but the Assistant software, which sets up and manages those partitions, will not once the license expires. "And Apple will not offer driver updates to beta users," said company spokesman Anuj Nayar in an e-mail today. However, Nayar did not respond to questions about whether Apple will make a final version available to Mac OS 10.4 users, and if so, at what price. A support document posted last week only said: "The license to use Boot Camp Beta expires when Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard is available to the public. To continue using Boot Camp at that time, upgrade to Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard."
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News source: Computerworld
According to Apple, Windows partitions already installed on Macs using Boot Camp will continue to work, but the Assistant software, which sets up and manages those partitions, will not once the license expires. "And Apple will not offer driver updates to beta users," said company spokesman Anuj Nayar in an e-mail today. However, Nayar did not respond to questions about whether Apple will make a final version available to Mac OS 10.4 users, and if so, at what price. A support document posted last week only said: "The license to use Boot Camp Beta expires when Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard is available to the public. To continue using Boot Camp at that time, upgrade to Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard."
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Well thats good to know, I was worried they were going to do something evil.
Uhh. what?
Og wait, it's Apple, nvm.
Therefore, your comment can easily be dismissed as flamebait, and I believe that that is check, and mate.
Looks like Apple made something much more evil than WGA.
I kid, sheesh!!! Let's not sit in the same rooms together, okay?
And even BETTER, I will already have Leopard (it won't really change anything in that whole boot camp thing, but still)?
Big deal. Boot Camp doesn't start when you use the Windows Partition. So 2 things : you won't be able to create a new drivers CD, and you won't be able to create a new Windows partition. Windows will still be available in the boot process...
That's for a couple of Apple bashers here...
Do you like it?
What he is saying is what if Microsoft gave people the option to dual boot Windows and Linux when Vista wasn't out yet but as soon as they released Vista required everybody, who has not set it up and wants to start dual booting Windows and Linux, to upgrade to Vista just for that option.
What it really boils down to is that if your Windows installation get hosed (a not uncommon thing) you won't be able to reinstall it unless you fork out for the upgrade.
The iPhone, similarly, is their product. Their Terms of Service. If you violate that, you deserve what you get.
Apple developed a phone. They did not give it away, in fact, they sold it for the hefty consideration of $600.00. When you paid Apple that money, it became your phone. That's how sales work.
Terms of service are fine, and I'm not going to get into the minutia of contract law. But one of the principle rules of contract law is that you cannot have a term of a contract that basically says one party can break it. When Apple sells you a phone, and then they destroy your phone, what's the point of the contract, what's the point of the sale?
Besides, if Apple is not content with how you are living up to the contract, the proper course it to sue. That costs the suing party money, and time. It discourages stupid lawsuits, like ones over breaking minor terms of service. This isn't the Wild West where you can just break something because you disagree with how its being used.
Boot camp is different, but still underhanded. It is their software, but it is unfair and wrong to not fully explain to someone the effects of becoming deeply entrenched in using software that was free, and then tell them later that it is not free, and they have to pay a lot of money to upgrade.
Apple developed a phone. They did not give it away, in fact, they sold it for the hefty consideration of $600.00. When you paid Apple that money, it became your phone. That's how sales work.
Terms of service are fine, and I'm not going to get into the minutia of contract law. But one of the principle rules of contract law is that you cannot have a term of a contract that basically says one party can break it. When Apple sells you a phone, and then they destroy your phone, what's the point of the contract, what's the point of the sale?
Besides, if Apple is not content with how you are living up to the contract, the proper course it to sue. That costs the suing party money, and time. It discourages stupid lawsuits, like ones over breaking minor terms of service. This isn't the Wild West where you can just break something because you disagree with how its being used.
Boot camp is different, but still underhanded. It is their software, but it is unfair and wrong to not fully explain to someone the effects of becoming deeply entrenched in using software that was free, and then tell them later that it is not free, and they have to pay a lot of money to upgrade.
I'm Canadian, and I vote Liberal.
I just happen to whine a little less.
To all of you who are too ****ing dense to understand what's going on:
http://images.apple.com/legal/warranty/iphone.pdf
Read it..
it covers this and loss of profit which seems to include the new lawsuit. here's the part hackers may want to read: "This warranty does not apply: (a) to damage caused by use with non-Apple products; (b) to damage caused by accident, abuse, misuse, flood, fire,
earthquake or other external causes; © to damage caused by operating the product outside the permitted or intended uses described by Apple; (d)
to damage caused by service (including upgrades and expansions) performed by anyone who is not a representative of Apple or an Apple Authorized
Service Provider (“AASP”
Got it?
Last edited by LTD on 03 Oct 2007 - 06:57
Apple developed a phone. They did not give it away, in fact, they sold it for the hefty consideration of $600.00. When you paid Apple that money, it became your phone. That's how sales work.
Terms of service are fine, and I'm not going to get into the minutia of contract law. But one of the principle rules of contract law is that you cannot have a term of a contract that basically says one party can break it. When Apple sells you a phone, and then they destroy your phone, what's the point of the contract, what's the point of the sale?
Besides, if Apple is not content with how you are living up to the contract, the proper course it to sue. That costs the suing party money, and time. It discourages stupid lawsuits, like ones over breaking minor terms of service. This isn't the Wild West where you can just break something because you disagree with how its being used.
Boot camp is different, but still underhanded. It is their software, but it is unfair and wrong to not fully explain to someone the effects of becoming deeply entrenched in using software that was free, and then tell them later that it is not free, and they have to pay a lot of money to upgrade.
You sir, are wise beyond your years.
And I believe that in the ToS it states, in many more words, that if you "hack" your phone then you are violating the contract and at that point Apple has no obligation to you. This is not any different than if you try to open up your television or DVD player. There is a huge warning sticker that says "Warning! Don't open! If you open this device you will void your warranty!" Apple says don't hack your iPhone it voids your warranty. If you do it anyway then you broke your agreement and Apple doesn't owe you anything.
Think about it like this: If you were an electronics company would you want your repairs done by qualified technicians or would you be willing to take in units that people has opened, modified, or attempted to repair themselves?
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Lots of BS
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What about getting a warning for flame and offtopic?
Considering this was disclosed from the beginning it isn't a big deal, even if it wasn't I doubt too much of a stink would have been raised. I can guarantee you that most of the people miffed about the Iphone price drop or bricking will be in line for the next IPhone release talking about how this is the greatest phone ever made.
Partially correct (fully correct but it was only part of the reason)
Giving people BootCamp for free allowed alot of people to feel comfortable enough to run both MacOSX -and- WindowsXP at the same time so the difference between the two wouldnt have been such a shock. Have documents in some obscure Office format still? You still have your XP install to play with them, and the old DirectX games were available too.
But now the official VMWare machine is out to run XP within MacOSX, bootcamp isnt so...required. Its nice, but VMWare can do almost all of it, and with less partitioning hassles.
Partially correct (fully correct but it was only part of the reason)
Giving people BootCamp for free allowed alot of people to feel comfortable enough to run both MacOSX -and- WindowsXP at the same time so the difference between the two wouldnt have been such a shock. Have documents in some obscure Office format still? You still have your XP install to play with them, and the old DirectX games were available too.
But now the official VMWare machine is out to run XP within MacOSX, bootcamp isnt so...required. Its nice, but VMWare can do almost all of it, and with less partitioning hassles.
Doesn't SP1 for Vista add support for EFI motherboards, like the ones on Mac's? If so, then you don't need bootcamp at all if Windows can just boot nativlly on the hardware. Unless the EFI version used in all mac's is a specific version that's not one of the open ones and thus MS can't support that one.
But whatever. I'll never use a Mac again anyways.
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