Despite frequent reports of Windows Vista being a failure, Microsoft Corporation has now shipped 88 million copies of its latest operating system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of time at its launch. CFO Chris Liddell credited strong sales in emerging markets, due in part to anti-piracy and legalization programs there. Microsoft had previously said that it had shipped 20 million copies of Vista in its first month, 40 million copies of Vista in the first 100 days, and 60 million in late July.
Three-quarters of the copies sold of Vista were Home Premium editions. The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by consumers and small businesses, as well as packaged copies of Vista sold in stores or online. It does exclude the tens of millions of Windows corporate volume licenses. There, many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista, acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1 arrives in the first quarter of next year. Nevertheless, revenue from companies renewing their volume licenses for Windows, which gives them the right to upgrade to Vista, was up 27%.
News source: PC World
Three-quarters of the copies sold of Vista were Home Premium editions. The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by consumers and small businesses, as well as packaged copies of Vista sold in stores or online. It does exclude the tens of millions of Windows corporate volume licenses. There, many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista, acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1 arrives in the first quarter of next year. Nevertheless, revenue from companies renewing their volume licenses for Windows, which gives them the right to upgrade to Vista, was up 27%.
News source: PC World
nvidia cutting support for that ****es me off to no end
i almost bought vista thinking it would work cause they had it on their site saying it would
Did I miss the memo? I have an Asus board with Nforce 3 chipset and it works fine with Vista.
Not bad at all but Vista is filled with completely useless crap. Also DRM, i know exactly what's going on with XP, also things are a lot more compatiable.
Not bad at all but Vista is filled with completely useless crap. Also DRM, i know exactly what's going on with XP, also things are a lot more compatiable.
Weird, Vista runs on my computer without a hitch...and it's a regular PC, Intel Core 2 Duo 1.86GHz and 1 GB of RAM...
Just out of curiosity, what are your computer specs?
Just out of curiosity, what are your computer specs?
Old? Please. I'd kill for a setup like that.
Truth is, even 4 year old PCs can handle vista just fine. Most performance issues have to do with drivers and well, and the damn indexer, among other useless services. Vista does a lot more stuff 'unadvertedly' than XP did. Downloading and installing updates (which you can disable
XP does all of these things too, the indexing is just useless cause the search sucks.
XP does all of these things too, the indexing is just useless cause the search sucks.
Yes it does, I turn it off. That's what I do in Vista too, only MS makes it more difficult to do so. I guess that's what MS calls an improvement: not giving customers a choice.
Of course we have to see this retarded argument every vista news post, and many times I've seen it explained as patently false, so I'm not getting my hopes up that this retarded argument disappears because of my reply, but whatever.
When a wholesaler or OEM exchanges cash for a product it becomes income to Microsoft. How quickly the wholesaler or OEM turns that product over depnds on their skill and market savvy.
I'm sure XP tagged along with hardware for quite a while at the beginning of it's life. OS X is always tagging along with hardware. Maybe if Linux was good enough to be considered having preinstalled on hardware, it'd be doing better.
As such, how the market works isn't different enough now than it was when XP came out, so the fact that these numbers are so much higher indicate that MS did something right with Vista, whether you all want to believe it or not.
-Spenser
That's a pretty broad claim you made there, especially since you just made it up.
That's a pretty broad claim you made there, especially since you just made it up.
Yes, I feel like making up some stats. Let's see...... 89% of all tech nuts rejected Vista. There, now we have a statistic to back up the claim.
FWIW, I'm a tech nut and I use Vista both at home and work. And I prefer it over XP. Guess that puts me in the 11% :-)
don't be ignorant. What do you think made those 8 million new systems sell in the first place? Linux?
Dell, Hp and the rest are still in business becouse of Windows.
They could make more profit with Linux, because they could collect the MS tax for themselves. Plus they could start making their own Linux distros and maybe even charge for them? They could charge enterprise customers for support instead of those fees going to MS.
Yeah... MS shipped 88 million copies of Vista and probably about 80% of those switched right back to XP, yeah! Because "everyone knows" "Vista sucks"!!
Seriously... come on. Grow up.
It works fine on my laptop, which is less than 18 months old, but I'm sure my home box (P4 2.8ghz HT, 512 ram) would
struggle with it. After SP1 is released, and reviewed, I'm sure there will be a lot of people taking another look at it.
Oh yeah... right...
So essentially - the real truth is that MS stuffed all stores everywhere with 80 million copies and really sold only 8 million, or something to that effect?
That really explains the record quarter (since 1999) that Microsoft just had. Because they just shipped their software and did not sell any!
As I said - get over it - please.
Well, OK... I have perhaps falsely assumed that you'd actually go look at the latest financial statement:
http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY0..._rel_q1_08.mspx
So - unless Microsoft has shipped some other client products that are accounting for half of their revenue (which is so big but somehow we did not hear about it), or unless they are only selling Office 2007 and no Vista - I'd say that this is a pretty darn good proof that Microsoft's Client division accounted for almost 1 B $ increase of sales compared to last year's 1st quarter.
Will you get over it now?
That said, Vista is not meant for old hardware and anyone who tries to shoehorn it onto their old clunker is a fool.
Some of the cheesy hardware that big box retailers are trying to palm off as Vista Ready are an insult to their customers.
My only complaint is that the video cards I got in March was not up to the level of the rest of the of the system. As new video cards come down in price, Vista is going to roar.
The only people who bash vista are the ones who have no clue what's going on, or are buying into the FUD or are intentionally spreading FUD.
It doesn't take as much horsepower to run as you may think. It's not a huge resource hog. People confuse superfetch with it being a resource hog. All it's doing is making use of idle ram, this is a good thing.
There is no DRM preventing you from doing anything you want to do. You can continue all of your illegal activites and nothing is reported back to microsoft on any of it. All it has is support for DRM placed on HD-DVD or Blue Ray by the MPAA. If you never play one of these protected discs on your computer you'll never even know the DRM support is there.
The same DRM support is found on macs which allows playback of protected itunes content.
It is also in your set top HD-DVD or Blue Ray players. It is not a windows only thing at all.
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I think anyone who looks up the memory meters in Task Manager and then proclaims that it's a resource hog, is just spreading FUD.
Unused memory = wasted memory.
On a serious note, I found the product full of bugs when the product was released and even now still finding bugs. I mean IE crashed on me on a daily basis. I dont know what SP1 will bring but i am happy with XP at the moment.
Sure VistaMe2 will catch on. It has to as it's the newest OS out and all new computers sold since will have it, for the most part. But, for the lousy third party driver support it (didn't) had when finally released after so many delays, I think of it as a total POS!!
To me, it is nothing more than overblown eyecandy.
There is no way I'm putting XP back on my machines.
There is no way I'm putting XP back on my machines.
Here's another who doesn't want his money back - very satisfied Vista user.
Bob
Seriously, it's the same with each new Windows OS (ME being the exception of course, that one was just crap). Poor driver support, inadequate hardware, limited experienced user base, etc...
Bob
For the record I loved XP when it came out. In fact I've liked most every version of Windows that has came off the line, Vista is probably only the second I was extremely disappointed with, and I can assure you I will never be praising it.
For the record I loved XP when it came out. In fact I've liked most every version of Windows that has came off the line, Vista is probably only the second I was extremely disappointed with, and I can assure you I will never be praising it.
Then, for the record, you would be the exception to most complaining about Vista currently, but I appreciate your opinion. However, my point was that the majority of the comments against Vista are the same comments I heard when XP was first released. Remember these?
"It's a fisher price OS."
"It's just a pretty face on the NT kernel."
"My hardware isn't natively supported."
"It's footprint is much larger than the 2000 install."
etc... etc... etc...
Don't get me wrong, I still really like XP as an OS and I dual boot my system between XP and Vista. I just don't agree that it was "half baked" at release time or that any issues found are uncommon to any Windows OS release, and I'm not even really a fan of the Windows OS. If I had my way, I'd still be using MS-DOS and running programs from the command line.
I disagreed, vista IS a half baked OS, specially the features left out from this release, specially the new filesystem.
May be Vista will rules but not this puny version but vista OSR2, Vista 2008 (or 2009)....
September 2007 - Vista: 4.5%
So 100% = (100/4.5*88m) = 1,956m computers worldwide (or 300 computers per 1000 persons).
But analyst firm Forrester says that we have about 1 billion. Other sources say that we have only 107 computers per 1000 persons worldwide. So someone is exaggerating.
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