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Microsoft addresses reports of forced updates and reboots

Steven Parker   on 26 October 2007 - 11:46 · 17 comments & 9454 views

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Microsoft has posted a long and complex explanation to its Windows Software Update Services (WSUS) blog, explaining the latest case of why software updates are being pushed to users who believe they’ve turned automatic updating off. The UK Register reported on October 25 that a number of admins were seeing Microsoft Desktop Search 3.01 pushed out to users via Microsoft’s WSUS enterprise patching/update system, in spite of having opted out of this “resource-hogging search app.”

Bobbie Harder, Microsoft Product Manager for WSUS, explained why some companies were seeing the updated Windows Desktop Search bits (aka, the updated package for KB917013) pushed to their users. It turns out Microsoft changed the deployment rules after the original release of Windows Desktop Search. Harder noted: “The original update release, released February 2007 as an optional update, was only applicable on systems which had a version of Windows Desktop Search installed. The recent update Revision 105, had the applicability logic expanded to be applicable to all systems regardless if a prior version of Windows Desktop Search was installed, IF of course, approved in the WSUS Administrative UI or via Administrator-set auto-approval rules.”

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(1 reply) #1 necrosis on 26 Oct 2007 - 12:08
So your telling me Desktop Search is flagged as a "Critical Update"or "Definition"? Because on the WSUS server I manage those are the only groups I have set to install without manual authorization. MS ****ed up big time with this one.
#1.1 +DrCheese on 26 Oct 2007 - 15:42
see what I said below, it was just an update before, only updating existing software but now its revised to install anyway.

MS have pulled the update now.
(3 replies) #2 mlauzon76 on 26 Oct 2007 - 12:21
MS is really shooting themselves in the foot, I don't see this as being good; wonder if any one of the companies is deciding on lawsuits...probably not.
#2.1 Optix Illusion on 26 Oct 2007 - 13:09
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MS is really shooting themselves in the foot, I don't see this as being good; wonder if any one of the companies is deciding on lawsuits...probably not.


Who dares file a lawsuit against a corporation that seems to think they own the entire planet?
#2.2 vetmarkjensen on 26 Oct 2007 - 13:25
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Who dares file a lawsuit against a corporation that seems to think they own the entire planet?
Microsoft has the money. Hence they have historically been a prime target for lawsuits. Just look over the past 15 years!

Anyone looking for money need only look to Microsoft.
#2.3 Amodin on 27 Oct 2007 - 16:52
Quote - (Optix Illusion said @ #2.1)
Quote - (mlauzon76 said @ #2)
MS is really shooting themselves in the foot, I don't see this as being good; wonder if any one of the companies is deciding on lawsuits...probably not.


Who dares file a lawsuit against a corporation that seems to think they own the entire planet?


I would (if I had the money) and would mention the everlasting love of the 'Sarbanes-Oxley Act'.
#3 jwjw1 on 26 Oct 2007 - 13:45
Desktop Search is critical...lol...the next microsoft self-authorization dictator update will remove all signs of google.
(1 reply) #4 rdmiller on 26 Oct 2007 - 13:57
“All subsequent metadata-only revisions to that WSUS admin approved February 2007 release would then also be automatically approved for distribution."

Let me get this straight. You approved the original installation of Desktop Search, but now you are objecting to the revision?
#4.1 +DrCheese on 26 Oct 2007 - 15:41
No you approved an update back in feb 2007 that would only install on machines that require the update (i.e machines with WDS already installed)

However they revised the update package to install regardless(revisions are automatically accepted) and didn't bother reclassifying it as a "Tool or feature pack" which would have required admins approve it again, although this time aware it would install everywhere.
(1 reply) #5 vetneufuse on 26 Oct 2007 - 14:09
We never approved Desktop search once... heck we just reinstalled our WSUS system from scratch on tuesday... and hadn't even approved anything yet and somehow... SOMEHOW Desktop search got installed on all our workstations... figure that one out
#5.1 Marshalus on 26 Oct 2007 - 14:33
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We never approved Desktop search once... heck we just reinstalled our WSUS system from scratch on tuesday... and hadn't even approved anything yet and somehow... SOMEHOW Desktop search got installed on all our workstations... figure that one out


Our workstations already had it, so I didn't really notice.
#6 sweetsam on 26 Oct 2007 - 14:35
I hate MS when they do this nonsense. Like that is not enough desktop search is a resource sucker. Are they trying to slow everybody down ?? This is a good chance for google to get back at MS
(2 replies) #7 jasondefaoite on 26 Oct 2007 - 14:58
Time to slow down XP a bit ... maybe Vista will shift a few more copies
#7.1 rpgfan on 26 Oct 2007 - 16:26
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Time to slow down XP a bit ... maybe Vista will shift a few more copies

I'm wondering if that's why it was done! It might not have been an accident... If so, I then must wonder why. Is MS so financially hurt by the fact that Vista is poorly adopted in some cases and they put so much money into it? Hmm... I really must wonder...
#7.2 bluewind_89 on 26 Oct 2007 - 16:46
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Quote - (jasondefaoite said @ #1)
Time to slow down XP a bit ... maybe Vista will shift a few more copies

I'm wondering if that's why it was done! It might not have been an accident... If so, I then must wonder why. Is MS so financially hurt by the fact that Vista is poorly adopted in some cases and they put so much money into it? Hmm... I really must wonder...


Nice try. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...&refer=home
#8 Peter McGrath on 27 Oct 2007 - 00:17
I've read the article and Microsoft have NOT explained why it was pushed automatically at all.

All they have done is tried to step around the fact that they stuffed up big time, and whoever has convinced their management that it is working as designed should be fired for the stuffup.

Also their management should be fired for either trying to cover up the problem, or for being so incompetent that they have been hoowinked by their guilty employee (at the end users peril!
#9 ina_don on 29 Oct 2007 - 04:19
Lets do a little digging... there might be a serious hole in the app that the only way was to patch silently and prevent condemnation. But yeah, could really be time to slow down XP for vista's sake.

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