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Microsoft Accused of Pulling Nigerian Scam

Sagittarius   on 02 November 2007 - 01:36 · 21 comments & 14018 views

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French Linux vendor Mandriva's chief executive Francois Bancilhon has lashed out against Microsoft for alleged dirty sales tactics over a Nigerian deal. The company recently competed against the software giant for a deal to provide the software for Intel's Classmate PCs in Nigeria, a computer is a low cost notebook computer for developing nations and supports both Linux and Windows operating systems. The Linux vendor reeled in the contract and started shipping its software for the first 17,000 Classmate PCs. But it soon found out that Microsoft's sales team had continued to keep pushing for a deal.

"Today, we hear from the customer a totally different story: 'We shall pay for the Mandriva Software as agreed, but we shall replace it by Windows afterward,'" Bancilhon complained in an open letter that was posted on a company blog on Wednesday. The tone of the posting became agitated and Bancilhon suggested that Microsoft used unscrupulous business tactics, apparently claiming that Microsoft bribed officials.

Naturally Microsoft denied any wrongdoings and aruged instead that Nigera had changed its mind because Windows better matched its needs. "Microsoft strongly believes that individuals, governments and other organizations should be free to use the software and other technologies that best meet their needs. We believe Microsoft offers the best overall option of value, integration, interoperability and support, without complexity or added dependency on services," the company said in an emailed statement.

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(1 reply) #1 chilliadus on 02 Nov 2007 - 01:59
LOL For a minute I thought MS was behind the Nigerian Scam...

So the they are complaining not because they don't get the money or they can't tell MS what to do, but because they couldn't have both?
#1.1 The_Decryptor on 02 Nov 2007 - 06:26
I think they're more upset that they had a contract set-up, then MS had the contract changed to favour them.
(1 reply) #2 rm20010 on 02 Nov 2007 - 03:36
LOL. Biggest misleading title ever.

^^ I sense they're more concerned of marketshare over sales.
#2.1 tiagosilva29 on 02 Nov 2007 - 08:51
Corruption is a hell of a drug, man.
(1 reply) #3 Robgig1088 on 02 Nov 2007 - 03:46
Wow. I have never heard of Microsoft using dirty tactics to gain marketshare in developing countries.
#3.1 buletov on 02 Nov 2007 - 09:54
Microsoft = Dirty Tactics
#4 Foub on 02 Nov 2007 - 09:53
A dishonest mega corp? Perish the thought.
(4 replies) #5 Septimus on 02 Nov 2007 - 11:30
Oh noes, MS gave them some money to use there software. Of course they will take money and the software, they're fricking poor.

Mandriva on the other hand is the os choice of saints and martyrs. STFU Mandriva, if you could have afforded to pull it off you would have.
#5.1 4tehlulz on 02 Nov 2007 - 12:49
No, it's called bribery, which at last check was illegal, and corrupt Nigerian officials are not exactly living hand to mouth.
#5.2 Foub on 02 Nov 2007 - 13:42
Quote - (4tehlulz said @ #5.1)
No, it's called bribery, which at last check was illegal, and corrupt Nigerian officials are not exactly living hand to mouth.


I know what you mean, but economic sociopaths can't tell the difference so to them making profit by any means is a good thing.
#5.3 Poof on 02 Nov 2007 - 15:23
Quote - (4tehlulz said @ #5.1)
No, it's called bribery, which at last check was illegal, and corrupt Nigerian officials are not exactly living hand to mouth.


I'm shocked you'd say such a thing...

I was figuring that Microsoft offered them an "Instant Cash Back" deal like they do with cars... >.> That way, they get their discount on the software in cold, hard cash.

Or, the govt saw this:

They were going in to a deal with a 'young' company Mandriva Software, then realized that the other company, Microsoft has a tried and proven OS, with lots of cash flow. And, overall, there is a MUCH higher chance of Microsoft being there in the coming years than the other company. So, in order to do the best for their government coffers, and for their people, they chose the software company that's more financially stable.
#5.4 libertas83 on 03 Nov 2007 - 00:45
Quote - (4tehlulz said @ #5.1)
No, it's called bribery, which at last check was illegal, and corrupt Nigerian officials are not exactly living hand to mouth.


Actually bribery is legal in many countries and is practically a requirement to do any deals in third world countries. I don't know about Nigeria, but I can imagine it is the same way.

Now, in the US, you are right, bribery is illegal and US companies are not supposed to take part in legal bribary in foreign nations. This is something many multinational and international companies complain about because we lose to to the competition. So, many US companies probably do it but try to keep it on the down low.
(2 replies) #6 NPGMBR on 02 Nov 2007 - 13:57
A lot of speculation going on here! Just because MS's sales team kept working for a deal does not mean they did something unethical.

Its funny how people jump to conclusions when certain parties are involved but brush aside the things they do on a daily basis that are in their own best interest.

It happens every day as employees fight against eachother for bonuses and promotions; literally stepping on their co-workers to get ahead, yet they can find justification for their actions, while at the same time calling someone else doing the same thing evil. Simply Amazing!
#6.1 vetmarkjensen on 02 Nov 2007 - 14:26
Well, in this case, it would be a fact that the competition for bidding was done. The contract awarded to Mandriva. Mandriva certified and delivered. Product is now shipping.

Some behind-the-scenes extra-contractual "business" goes on between Microsoft and Nigerian government, and suddenly Nigeria announces they are dumping the OS and reinstalling all units with Windows.

To correct your "employee" analogy, worker A gets the promotion over worker B. Worker B goes to the boss, after the fact, then suddenly worker A (who has done everything he should have to meet the requirements for the promotion after besting worker B in this competition) is suddenly let know that he is being fired.

"Simply Amazing!" indeed.
#6.2 Foub on 02 Nov 2007 - 18:57
Quote - (markjensen said @ #6.1)
Well, in this case, it would be a fact that the competition for bidding was done. The contract awarded to Mandriva. Mandriva certified and delivered. Product is now shipping.

Some behind-the-scenes extra-contractual "business" goes on between Microsoft and Nigerian government, and suddenly Nigeria announces they are dumping the OS and reinstalling all units with Windows.

To correct your "employee" analogy, worker A gets the promotion over worker B. Worker B goes to the boss, after the fact, then suddenly worker A (who has done everything he should have to meet the requirements for the promotion after besting worker B in this competition) is suddenly let know that he is being fired.

"Simply Amazing!" indeed.


What he's talking about above is modern capitalism which is run, and supported, by economic sociopaths. To them all profit is good profit no matter the means....
(2 replies) #7 C_Guy on 02 Nov 2007 - 14:37
Wow. It's amazing what accusations and conclusions you jump to when you get beat by Microsoft.

It sure is sad when people let their mouths fly off like that before they even have their facts straight. It gives all credibility to Microsoft who hasn't been proven guilty.
#7.1 vetmarkjensen on 02 Nov 2007 - 14:51
Agreed. All we know is that the deal was made. And something happened during Microsoft and Nigeria's talks after the contract was awarded. And suddenly Nigeria is dumping Mandriva.

My analogy above says the same. Some unknown conversations took place. Francois (Mandriva CEO) is far more speculative and upset.

I would add that Microsoft got "beat" by Mandriva in the contract. It's not like Mandriva lost during the competetive bid process. They went head-to-head against Microsoft, and Microsoft lost the bid. It was the unknown conversations after the contract award that caused this event.

EDIT: I am sure that Microsoft just was talking to the Nigarian government about how sorry they were to have lost the bid, and how impressed they were that Mandriva was able to deliver on-time and meet the contract requirements. Yup.
#7.2 evo_spook on 02 Nov 2007 - 18:23
LOL a c-guy, how far will he go to defend the undefendiable? If the was Apple or a Linux vendor, he'd be screaming to high heaven
(1 reply) #8 lbmouse on 02 Nov 2007 - 16:48
This should be easy to solve. Just need to keep an eye out for the Nigerian government official driving the new Rolls Royce with the vanity plate "MS ROXOR".
#8.1 +aniv on 04 Nov 2007 - 14:31
Quote - (lbmouse said @ #
This should be easy to solve. Just need to keep an eye out for the Nigerian government official driving the new Rolls Royce with the vanity plate "MS ROXOR".


LOL ..awesome.
#9 evo_spook on 02 Nov 2007 - 18:42
Remind me how many were up in arms about the EU going after MS for unfair business practices?

Well it seems after this all them that did need to STFU

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