The Windows Early Feedback program was created by Microsoft as a means of rounding up suggestions and feedback that may be considered for implementation in future iterations of the Windows operating system. The team in charge of the program has collected and released a list of (what they consider to be) the top 61 suggestions to be presented to the development team of Windows 7.
The ideas being presented to the team range from basic usability improvements, such as a download manager in Internet Explorer, to more far fetched ideas, such as the ability to back up Xbox 360 games to a PC (good luck with that one). Some of the top suggestions are even features that were promised for and then dropped from Vista, such as a completely vectorized graphical user interface.
Check out the list by clicking the link below and let us know if anything catches your eye. Think you have a better idea? Let's hear it!
View: Top Windows Early Feedback Suggestions
The ideas being presented to the team range from basic usability improvements, such as a download manager in Internet Explorer, to more far fetched ideas, such as the ability to back up Xbox 360 games to a PC (good luck with that one). Some of the top suggestions are even features that were promised for and then dropped from Vista, such as a completely vectorized graphical user interface.
Check out the list by clicking the link below and let us know if anything catches your eye. Think you have a better idea? Let's hear it!
View: Top Windows Early Feedback Suggestions
Agreed. That would be a godsend to people like me, who have trouble playing the latest games.
There are those of us who hate OSX, and cringe every time we have to use one of them. (4 hours weekly for me for the last few months. It makes me hate everything about OSX even more every time.)
There are those of us who hate OSX, and cringe every time we have to use one of them. (4 hours weekly for me for the last few months. It makes me hate everything about OSX even more every time.)
You're entitled to your own opinion but don't expect me to respect your intelligence.
You mean like Windows hasn't been doing so already? Doesn't seem to have worked out very well, Vista being the culmination of that flawed strategy.
There are those of us who hate OSX, and cringe every time we have to use one of them. (4 hours weekly for me for the last few months. It makes me hate everything about OSX even more every time.)
Care to elaborate on why? Or are you just another anti-anything other than MS nutjob like alot of the Apple idiots out there. I for one have used many types of operating systems and find OSX to be among the most well designed if not the most. It's not perfect by any means but then nothing is.
As far as I'm concerned, OSX plus the original ideas for Longhorn would make a great OS if designed well. I'm talking OSX style applications - no registry, XML integrated shell, WinFS, fully integrated and completely customizable hardware accelerated vector interface including a dock/sidebar hybrid (Compiz Fusion as a point of reference). OSX style security (meaning a less obtrusive and annoying UAC), better efficiency in OS design so there aren't 60 processes at startup for programs or services most people don't need and can choose to run themselves as needed, options for power users so they aren't forced into an OS that tries to make decisions for you, I could go on.
As far as I'm concerned, OSX plus the original ideas for Longhorn would make a great OS if designed well. I'm talking OSX style applications - no registry, XML integrated shell, WinFS, fully integrated and completely customizable hardware accelerated vector interface including a dock/sidebar hybrid (Compiz Fusion as a point of reference). OSX style security (meaning a less obtrusive and annoying UAC), better efficiency in OS design so there aren't 60 processes at startup for programs or services most people don't need and can choose to run themselves as needed, options for power users so they aren't forced into an OS that tries to make decisions for you, I could go on.
What does XML integrated shell mean? And what functionality of WinFS, in specific, are you looking for?
DWM already works like compiz fusion, each window is a plame with the window contents as a bitmap texture on said plane. The only difference between compiz and DWM is that compiz is open and developers can control it, while DWM is closed.
I don't know why you'd accuse a guy of being a fanboy, or even suggest it just because he doesn't like OS X. I personally hated OS X for years because using apps with floating panels (which I believe was the norm in responce to Apple HIG's) pained me to no end. All the adobe apps followed this mathod. I also wasn't down with the top menu bar.
It means XML integration within explorer, the benefits of which would allow one to write a program with a hardware accelerated gui that can also act as a website for example. WinFS had a number of benefits as originally intended.
Compiz fusion is a much better design than DWM. It runs faster for the same end result, plus it's utilized much better. However, a vector based GUI is what should be done.
So, OSX is terrible simply because some applications use floating panels? You do realize Photoshop does the same don't you? Hating the OS for something as trivial as that, which is ultimately up to the developers of the software, is plain silly. I mean, should I say windows sucks because creative writes crappy software? Yeah, lets ignore all the useful features of the os. Technically, liking one product and claiming everything else sucks qualifies you as a fanboy.
Last edited by ANova on 11 Nov 2007 - 00:32
If windows users wanted OS X, they would go buy it and not windows. And before someone trots out the tired monopoly argument, remember apple was selling OSes before Microsoft. Hard to lose to a late comer and still claim it's because of their monopoly, but no one on the internet cares about reality anyway, so carry on.
If windows users wanted OS X, they would go buy it and not windows. And before someone trots out the tired monopoly argument, remember apple was selling OSes before Microsoft. Hard to lose to a late comer and still claim it's because of their monopoly, but no one on the internet cares about reality anyway, so carry on.
Except that in order to run OSX you need to buy another expensive computer, you cannot compare them.
You mean like Windows hasn't been doing so already? Doesn't seem to have worked out very well, Vista being the culmination of that flawed strategy.
because I as well as a good number of other people don't have any major/any problems with vista at all? yeaaa....
Why whouldn't you?
There are those of us who hate OSX, and cringe every time we have to use one of them. (4 hours weekly for me for the last few months. It makes me hate everything about OSX even more every time.)
There are those like me who love their Mac to pieces but acknowledge that it isn't perfect.
What I'd love to see - look at Irix's native desktop; something like that; its a good compromise of all the great features from Amiga/Atari/Windows/MacOS.
Ever heard of WPF? The more you post the more I realize you have no idea what you're talking about. WPF is an XML based language for the specific use of creating 3 dimensional vector shapes that are to be used in the GUI's of .NET and Silverlight apps.
I guess since you can't point out an actual feature of WinFS it's safe to say that yet again you have no clue what you're talking about.
Thanks for sharing that with us. I'm glad to know that you have more knowledge of milcore.dll than any other non-MS programmer on the planet. Can you also let me in on the benifits of a full vector based UI vs. vector plane windows with bitmap cached contents?
Oh, photoshop uses the same floating panel design? No I didn't realize that. When I said all adobe apps use a floating panel layout I was referring to a different Adobe.
And why is it silly to dislike an OS for that reason. Why would you blame the third party developer when they are following the HIG layed out by the OS maker. If Apple's HIG says apps should have floating panels or shelves rather than fixed panels why would I blame the app maker for following those instructions?
I never said OS X sucks. I said I hated working in OS X. I'm using Adobe apps (Flash, Flex, Illustrator, PS) for 90% of the time I'm on a computer. Frankly, the OS doesn't have anywhere near enough usefull features to make up for how severely it hampered my workflow. And I never said I liked one product and claimed everything else sucks. I said *I* hated OS X. I like Windows and I like Linux. Technically, not being able to handle that fact that someone dislikes an OS it what makes you a fanboy. Not liking something and producing legitimate reasons why is pretty far from a fanboy.
BTW, can you please tell me what usefull feature of the OS I overlooked that would allow me to code AS3 and MXML faster?
There are those of us who hate OSX, and cringe every time we have to use one of them. (4 hours weekly for me for the last few months. It makes me hate everything about OSX even more every time.)
You're entitled to your own opinion but don't expect me to respect your intelligence.
Funniest COmment of the year, a MAC user (we all know mac users have the whole it's easy to use thing) not respecting an MS user for their intelligence, when they can use a 'harder to use' OS than you. so whats that say about you????
Ah and the usual personal insults come out. Did I hurt your poor precious or something? Go back to your hole assclown.
I don't see your point, really.
I've never had a BSOD without actually screwing up something by myself, which isn't something I do too often. (note: do not try a system restore prior to an installation of SP2)
Last edited by J_R_G on 11 Nov 2007 - 00:43
Noobness... Is that a new word? I like it.
wtf? seriously? and apparently not only ONE dumbass wanted this one, but several people?
wow, cant belive no one got there first
i think its remove from the recycle bin not from the desktop.
i think its remove from the recycle bin not from the desktop.
NO, its right. some actully made the move to vista you know
+1
That list comprises about a 99% bugfix/wishlist for Vista. Most of that could be implemented either now, or within the next few months.
Fixes to IE 7? Come on people... if we're talking Windows 7, we're talking IE 8 or higher?!?! Download DirectX directly from WU? We've already had that...
Last edited by franzon on 10 Nov 2007 - 08:15
why cant we actully send feedback? does the beta site for feedback still work? why must beta testers always send feedback? why not non beta testers? we have a say also
why cant we actully send feedback? does the beta site for feedback still work? why must beta testers always send feedback? why not non beta testers? we have a say also
I can vouch for the beta testers listening to the community and making suggestions based off of that.
Alot of us own our own businesses or work directly with people in an IT capacity so we know what the complaints and wishlists are
This is something!!!!
This will basically change how people look to their computers, since this will have a greater performance.
Seperate the kernel from the desktop, stop it from being an all-in-one solution like it is today.
Seperate the kernel from the desktop, stop it from being an all-in-one solution like it is today.
That's already been done. The kernel is a completely separate unit with the OS components built on top.
cut down on bloat and more practicality!
Such as:
Multiple file transfers from within Explorer that doesn't need a script, or 3rd party addon. Aka... right click several files, or even one, the select "Copy, Move, Copy To, Move To", and then select more than one destination at a time. Thus, if you have a LAN at home with more than one computer, you could send those files, songs...etc, to all the computers at once instead of just one at a time. Even if the destination isn't the same folder on the other computers. You could send several files to a desktop on one, a backup drive on another....etc, all at once.
Make more options or what we all call "tweaks" available within the OS instead of having to, yet again, rely on 3rd party apps to make available. That way, we don't have to search/modify the registry to add things like Move To to right click menu options. There's more .. way more on that subject, but it's obvious where this is leading. A feature that does all this, can easily become part of the Control Panel and like the registry, be set up as user only, select users, or all users.
Clean up the security for Windows. Come on Redmond, you have the entire world at your disposal, hundreds if not thousands of employees, and a WWW resource catalog at your finger tips, and your firewall is by far the worst. And that's just stating it in terms of truly being user friendly. Ya.. all the geeks here now how to tweak it, and add programs, but I'm sorry to tell you that our neighbors that just want the thing to work like it should... don't know how.
There's lots more.
Businesses actually use this OS.
Client
Server
i don't want to have to learn whcih ones got what and why i can't do this on here but not there.
oh yeah and stop moving sh^t around
What a great, great idea. I would kill for that. Is there a 3rd party program that does it already?
the only improvements i could think of right now are: a scrollable quick launch area and an auto hiding sidebar... make that a SCROLLABLE auto hiding sidebar... and a scrollable taskbar would be nice too
also i hate how the desktop search on the start menu tends to stop searching as soon as you click somewhere else, maybe they should change it so that the search continues in a separate window after the start menu disappears...
Just think how much faster your system would be without the UI/Visual effectsyes they look nice but its a mem whore yes you may have lots of mem but just think what that mem can do without UI/Visual effects.
Just think how much faster your system would be without the UI/Visual effectsyes they look nice but its a mem whore yes you may have lots of mem but just think what that mem can do without UI/Visual effects.
NO WAY
make it an option. just because you dont doesnt mean others do. people who make comments like this think of no one but them selfs, and thats retarted
plus my system runs fine with aero and fancy UI may be you should upgrade your hardware instead of caring all about ur self
Just think how much faster your system would be without the UI/Visual effectsyes they look nice but its a mem whore yes you may have lots of mem but just think what that mem can do without UI/Visual effects.
I'm guessing you've never used Windows or you haven't really played around with Windows much, because this option has always been available.
my guess is this guy likes old crap :lol:
Would be nice though.
It's really not worth it for Microsoft to do this themselves--what fraction of their users actually would benefit from this? 0.5% of business users maybe, and 0.001% of home users?
Besides, 3rd parties can already add support for their file systems using the Installable File System kit: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/ifskit/default.mspx. Of course, I suppose that the $109 fee to order the kit would makes it out of reach of some open source groups... maybe they could have a bake sale to raise the funds
patriot -love the bake sale idea but i don't think anyone would accept the cookies...
I shouldn't have to resort to 3rd party apps like nLite to slim down Windows.
The idea behind this strategy is, that programs are not so often installed as the personal data (documents, fotos, music) changes.
This strategy also means that the restore of only special files or folder in My Folders would be much easier than on the system image.
IMHO "Document & Settings" is in the wrong place. It contains the user settings, special configuration, profiles ...
Some game developer already changed the location of the savegame files to the My Documets folder, which is completely right.
"Document & Settings" should be arranged as a subfolder of My Documents, or as listed in the list, it is important that it can be moved to any specified folder, as mimimum.
And here my additions, if you like them:
1: A major overhaul to the notification and dialogue boxes, so that their less obtrusive and adhere to more modern usability practices. e.g. http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/03/06...ot-now.-never./
2: Drop the registry and keep the apps separate from the OS so as not to interfere with each other’s stability no matter how many are installed/uninstalled. e.g. http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=5999#5999
3: An OS Game mode. e.g. http://www.techiestools.com/vista_game_Launching_script.php
4: And Finally: Consistency, consistency, consistency, which should be the cornerstone for all Win7 Ui’s look and feel.
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