Posted by EL1TE on 15 November 2007 - 14:54 · 16 comments & 17208 views
AMD's two new graphics cards launching today are both based off a new GPU, referred to internally as the RV670. The basic architecture of the hardware is largely unchanged from R600; there has been some additional functionality added, and a great deal of internal bandwidth removed, but other than that this is very much an R600 based part. The biggest news of this part is that it is fabbed on a 55nm TSMC process. This is a half-node process based on 65nm technology, giving AMD an advantage in die size (cost) and potentially clock speed and/or power.

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(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by medion on 15 Nov 2007 - 15:29
8800GT wtf... looks like 8800GT is better...
Quote this comment #1.1 Posted by balupton on 15 Nov 2007 - 16:37
it is better, it even says that on the first page of the article. But for the prices and availability these ATI cards will be in the game.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by Amano on 15 Nov 2007 - 15:56
8800GT Rocks!
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by EL1TE on 15 Nov 2007 - 16:03
I doubt the results are accurate, just look at the drivers that they used:

AMD: Catalyst 7.10 (page 5)

this means they used the old drivers, which results in a bad performance, the drivers have NO optimizations for they new Radeons.

Like nVIDIA when the 8800GT come out they released a new driver, guess for what, lol

I'm waiting for the new Catalyst 7.11 to see what it says.


P.S: All this crap around ATI it's because of AMD, which buyed ATI to screw up to good quality, all we can see after AMD acquire ATI is crap, nothing more.
Drivers take months to release, performance are poor when compared to nVIDIA.

Shame on AMD.
Quote this comment #3.1 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 15 Nov 2007 - 16:24
Yes, it's totally AMDs fault for buying ATI.

Just because they bought up the company, doesn't mean they changed out the whole development department. Nvidia's had to play a lot of catch up, the same way Intel did, and now they're up on top. Hopefully, Nvidia being on top will push ATI to bring out their big guns once more.

Only thing we can do right now is root for the ones on bottom because, without them, there is no progression.
Quote this comment #3.2 Posted by GP007 on 15 Nov 2007 - 17:39
All that AMD/ATi stuff aside, the first point he made is valid, wait for the newer drivers to see how it really turns out. But as of now, those prices are great.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by S7R1K3R on 15 Nov 2007 - 16:33
The 3850 is a steal at that price and if I can find a place that offers free shipping in canada. I'd buy that right now.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by ChrisMZSA80 on 15 Nov 2007 - 17:04
Question: Can you run a Crossfire system on an nVidia Chipset Motherboard???

Thanks,
Chris
Quote this comment #5.1 Posted by +biohazard on 15 Nov 2007 - 17:19
No
Quote this comment #5.2 Posted by Croquant on 15 Nov 2007 - 23:06
http://anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3094&p=3

It is, actually, possible to get a 680i board to run Crossfire. You need a customised BIOS, though.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by +biohazard on 15 Nov 2007 - 17:20
I was going to get a 8800GT when they are in stock again but looking at this article, I might just get a HD 3870.
Quote this comment #6.1 Posted by toadeater on 16 Nov 2007 - 06:31
Quote - (biohazard said @ #6)
I was going to get a 8800GT when they are in stock again but looking at this article, I might just get a HD 3870.


The drastically lower power consumption won me over. But I'm still waiting to see if 8800 GTs with better cooling are released. The single-slot cooler was about the only thing bothering me about them -- and how retailers were overpricing them. Gotta thank ATI for driving prices down at least.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by Doli on 15 Nov 2007 - 20:06
I think Nvidia will be coming out with new cards in the same price range.
This is great that the prices are coming down on both sides and i hope to get an HD3850.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by xMorpheousx416 on 15 Nov 2007 - 20:54
For those of you looking at a system that can run either Nvidia (in SLI), or ATI (in Crossfire)... check this new system coming out from HP.
Don't know why, but I guess if it can be done, someone's going to do it!!

The system can also be designed with either an AMD or Intel CPU.
Quote this comment #8.1 Posted by +Beastage on 15 Nov 2007 - 21:03
looking at it... I believe because you are dealing with an OEM pc that you don't know the motherboard installed, looks to me like a marketing gimmick as they just replace the mobo in the system.

HP can't do anything to combine SLI and Crossfire, only Intel, AMD or nVidia can do it.

When you configure a setup it aways states ASUS Striker Extreme mobo , that is a 680i based SLI mobo....
something wrong with that site...

Last edited by Beastage on 15 Nov 2007 - 21:11
Quote this comment #8.2 Posted by Hawkeye on 15 Nov 2007 - 22:17
Quote - (Beastage said @ #8.1)
looking at it... I believe because you are dealing with an OEM pc that you don't know the motherboard installed, looks to me like a marketing gimmick as they just replace the mobo in the system.

HP can't do anything to combine SLI and Crossfire, only Intel, AMD or nVidia can do it.

When you configure a setup it aways states ASUS Striker Extreme mobo , that is a 680i based SLI mobo....
something wrong with that site...

Actually, it has been confirmed by several websites that you can run two NVIDIA cards in SLI or two ATI/AMD cards in Crossfire on that motherboard on the HP Blackbird 002.

Need some proof from a legitimate website? Have a look at this page from AnandTech's first look at the HP Blackbird 002. The first paragraph says it all.
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