Microsoft Corp.'s biggest worry over Windows Vista shouldn't be rival operating systems from Apple Inc. or Red Hat Inc., but remains competition from its own Windows XP, an analyst said Wednesday. "The big story isn't that 32% of the companies we surveyed said that they would start Vista deployments by the end of next year," said Benjamin Gray, an analyst at Forrester Research Inc. "It's that companies have been hugely successful in standardizing on Windows XP."
According to a survey of nearly 600 U.S. and European companies that have more than 1,000 employees, 84% of all their PCs now run Windows XP, up from 67% the year before. While XP may have peaked, Gray warned not to bet against the 6-year-old operating system. "There are plenty of companies looking forward to XP SP3," he said. That next hot-fix and patch rollup is to ship sometime in the first quarter of 2008, Microsoft has said, and it will reportedly be XP's last service pack.
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According to a survey of nearly 600 U.S. and European companies that have more than 1,000 employees, 84% of all their PCs now run Windows XP, up from 67% the year before. While XP may have peaked, Gray warned not to bet against the 6-year-old operating system. "There are plenty of companies looking forward to XP SP3," he said. That next hot-fix and patch rollup is to ship sometime in the first quarter of 2008, Microsoft has said, and it will reportedly be XP's last service pack.
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I thought Vista's biggest problem is that is sucks on so many different levels.
I've tried it for several MONTHS, in fact I actually bought a copy (Foolish me.), and I can easily say that he is right. Vista sucks big hairy donkey .....
http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/11/10/theres...-windows-vista/
I've tried it for several MONTHS, in fact I actually bought a copy (Foolish me.), and I can easily say that he is right. Vista sucks big hairy donkey .....
http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/11/10/theres...-windows-vista/
Can I have your copy, please... if you don't want it?
Stay away from Home Basic. Home Premium is probably okay, I use Vista Business on the laptop.
Only constant problem I ever had with it was Opers 9.1 or so doesn't run in Vista very well. Beta 9.5 no problems at all. Even the constant hard drive use I can tolerate for now.
I'm always looking forward and this isn't Windows ME. With ME I had to reinstall every 2 months. That was a worthles pile of dog crap.
bitebyte the company in the ass.FTFY
It's not that XP is better than Vista, it's that Vista is still full of bugs, and the hardware requirements aren't something most people feel is worth the reduced performance caused by Vista's bloat. At least RAM prices have dropped to the point where everyone should be able to afford the 2GB to run Vista adequately -- but then there's still the bugs. So it's back to XP, because after five years of patching it's now predictable. I don't believe that predictable equates with good.
It's not that XP is better than Vista, it's that Vista is still full of bugs, and the hardware requirements aren't something most people feel is worth the reduced performance caused by Vista's bloat. At least RAM prices have dropped to the point where everyone should be able to afford the 2GB to run Vista adequately -- but then there's still the bugs. So it's back to XP, because after five years of patching it's now predictable. I don't believe that predictable equates with good.
You say that for US. Check RAM's prices here in Brazil.
What I find most interesting is that we import that kind of thing, now:
When the price is high in US, the price is 5x higher in Brazil
When the price is low in US, the price is 10x higher in Brazil...
Just like gas... when the dollar was R$3,00, the gas prices was reaching heaven.
Now that the dollar is R$1,60, the gas prices are still reaching heaven.
In summarize, I get screwd when I see all that thing "your old 512mb pc" when I still use one, and for that reason Vista is not eligible for most people here in Brazil. There are, of course, some people that stop eating and drinking to buy new RAM
It's not that XP is better than Vista, it's that Vista is still full of bugs, and the hardware requirements aren't something most people feel is worth the reduced performance caused by Vista's bloat. At least RAM prices have dropped to the point where everyone should be able to afford the 2GB to run Vista adequately -- but then there's still the bugs. So it's back to XP, because after five years of patching it's now predictable. I don't believe that predictable equates with good.
You say that for US. Check RAM's prices here in Brazil.
What I find most interesting is that we import that kind of thing, now:
When the price is high in US, the price is 5x higher in Brazil
When the price is low in US, the price is 10x higher in Brazil...
Just like gas... when the dollar was R$3,00, the gas prices was reaching heaven.
Now that the dollar is R$1,60, the gas prices are still reaching heaven.
In summarize, I get screwd when I see all that thing "your old 512mb pc" when I still use one, and for that reason Vista is not eligible for most people here in Brazil. There are, of course, some people that stop eating and drinking to buy new RAM
I'd totally fly you out of Brazil if I had the money.
everyone knows xp still wins
everyone knows that mac and linux are not viable alternatives
GET OVER IT
This is news to me....
Really? I don't have a problem at all using my iBook all day at school and work, and a system running Ubuntu for home/gaming usage.
Only Windows user in the house is my mother, on her laptop (Vista), and she keeps whining that her computer crashing and going slow, and that she never sees my systems do that.
Can't convince her to let me slap Ubuntu on there though *grins*
And YES I installed VIsta on my VMware (runs like a dog) i also installe dit on my test machine (runs ok) but it annoys thecrap out of me. so i have used it for more than 1 day
XP has been the cream of all OS's till date. XP has delivered its performance far better than anyother OS till date.
Not to be exaggerating but XP is the best OS till date. I wonder in how many different ways can i say that over and over again. And yes I have tried Vista, and YES my specs are pretty decent for running Vista. Microsoft's last desperate attempt is to stop the life cycle of XP to push forward Vista's sales, but they are soon waking up to realize its not going to be easy to do that. XP was a revolution, Vista just seems to be add-on pack to it. Makes it all shiny. XP can do everything Vista can but only faster and better. I till date use XP, and know a 100 other people who have used Vista and again gone back to XP.
So yes Vista sucks
So yes Vista sucks
OF course. You are comparing light operating systems with the fancy Vista thing.
Otherwise, I really don't know or care at the moment if Vista is the bee's knees or not. The economy's not good enough at the moment for me to justify spending the money on a new computer system just so I can run it, maybe in a year or two, I'll be ready.
I approached Vista the same way I would buying a car. I took it for a test drive, didn't like it, and moved on.
We actually have a vista machine right next to an xp one and it feels like going back in time everytime I have to use it. Just like people clinged to 98 when XP came out, all I hear are the same vague arguments or specific driver problems.
Funny, I rather like the new start menu. Saves me the effort of either being anal-retentive and organizing it myself, or having a menu fold out 3-times and cover my screen.
Oh i can see this. as microsoft really wants Vista to be Number 1..
They'd never get away with that. People just wouldn't download it. It's already pretty much nothing new except all the patches collected together.
Maybe MS will surprise everyone and include DX10 with it.
They'd never get away with that. People just wouldn't download it. It's already pretty much nothing new except all the patches collected together.
Maybe MS will surprise everyone and include DX10 with it.
Before or after including Aero and Media Center?
Can't say I have ever noticed 'speed issues' since installing SP2, including both home and work machines...
over 6 years companies have gotten to know the code, as such they can code good apps that really squeeze the OS.
as hardware has gotten more powerful, this has only made it better for app developers.
the big problem with MS, is that each new OS they release requires a new comp. I dont believe I should need a new comp to run my OS, but the new applications on it.
Vista's problem has nothing to do with XP itself and everything to do with the fact that it doesn't offer enough advantages to make the upgrade worthwhile.
Xp offers all the security, stability, and usability you could want. Vista's few security enhancements and eye candy do not warrant the cost of the headache and hassle of upgrading.
Windows 7 will hopefully be a leaner, meaner XP... or a complete re-write. Either way it has to offer enough advantages that XP doesn't and it has to make the upgrade easy.
There. Was that so hard?
ouch, pwnd!
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