.LAT to become the new Internet Domain Extension for Latinos
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#1 Posted by Pupik on 19 Nov 2007 - 17:04
- Well, I don't know. The first thing that pops in my had when I see ".lat", is "Latvia".
But, I don't really care what domain the Hispanics gonna use. -
#1.2 Posted by naap51stang on 19 Nov 2007 - 22:36
- I could care less
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#2 Posted by BreakingBenjamin on 19 Nov 2007 - 17:23
- I hate being called "Latino".. It's sounds I don't know, racist?
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#2.1 Posted by SillyHalfMexican on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:39
- Quote - (BreakingBenjamin said @ #2)I hate being called "Latino".. It's sounds I don't know, racist?
Then you aren't a proud Latino.
People need to stop pulling the racist card on everything.... -
#2.2 Posted by naap51stang on 19 Nov 2007 - 22:40
- You should see the looks I get when I tweak some "pc" nutjob by calling myself a "native American".....I was BORN
in this country, as were my parents, that makes me "native" to this country, America.
About as funny as the white female, who was born & raised in South Africa, who applied for an African-American
scholarship, but when they found out she was "not black" she was rejected.....but...but...but I'm a TRUE African-American.......
Just cracks me up when you call their racist bluff.Quote - (SillyHalfMexican said @ #2.1)Quote - (BreakingBenjamin said @ #2)I hate being called "Latino".. It's sounds I don't know, racist?
Then you aren't a proud Latino.
People need to stop pulling the racist card on everything....
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#3 Posted by A Clockwork Lime on 19 Nov 2007 - 17:37
- The entire concept is pretty racist. Why not a .wit, .blk, and .asn extension as well? Segregation at its finest.
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#3.3 Posted by Ravensworth on 19 Nov 2007 - 17:59
- McDonald's at your service:
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#3.4 Posted by trashpickinman on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:01
- That was my first idea as well, who's going to be yelling and marching when the first .wht domain comes online?
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#3.5 Posted by +Zhivago on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:01
- Is .ru for Russia, .co.uk for U.K., and .co.jp for Japan racist too?
I really don't get where this negativity come from. It's not about segregation, it's about preserving culture in the globolized world.
In addition to that, an ethnic group is not the same as race. There's no such race as latino. No racism here. -
#3.6 Posted by Ravensworth on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:03
- Those are countries. Is there a country called Latino that I'm not aware of?
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#3.7 Posted by +Zhivago on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:05
- Quote - (Ravensworth said @ #3.6)Those are countries. Is there a country called Latino that I'm not aware of?Quote -their culture goes beyond geographical boundaries and they want to identify their cultural, social and business expressions.
.ru is for Russians where-ever they live. Who said it was supposed to be country specific only? -
#3.8 Posted by Ravensworth on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:08
- Quote -.ru is for Russians where-ever they live. Who said it was supposed to be country specific only?
Uh, no. It's the official domain for the country of Russia. A country having it's own domain is completely different than having one for a certain race.
Not to mention that many do not even like being called latinos. Sorry but this is just stupid. -
#3.9 Posted by +Zhivago on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:14
- Quote - (Ravensworth said @ #3.
Everyone has a culture. Why should one get their own domain, and where does it end? As someone said, will we have .blk and .asn domains next?
1. That's what the community wanted. Think about how much easier it will be for them to do business and connect to each other now.
2. For the last time, it's not about race. Latino is not a race. There are no talks whatsoever (and never will be) to make .wht or .blk domains -
#3.10 Posted by +Zhivago on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:22
- Quote - (Ravensworth said @ #3.Quote -.ru is for Russians where-ever they live. Who said it was supposed to be country specific only?
Uh, no. It's the official domain for the country of Russia. A country having it's own domain is completely different than having one for a certain race.
There are .ru websites with resources for Russian-speaking people in the U.S./Canada.
Ethnicity and race are two entirely different things. A latino is not a race, why is it so hard to understand? -
#3.11 Posted by Ravensworth on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:23
- Latino is an ethnic identification. It's taking a group of people and seperating (segregating) them from everyone else. Why, because they only want to do business with each other? That doesn't sound wrong to you? Whatever. Bring on the .asn domain! While we're at it, black isn't a race either. There is only one race of human beings. So technically having a domain for hispanics is no different then having one for blacks or caucasians. You can argue all you want but it's true.
Of course that's not the only reason this is stupid. As others have pointed out this should belong to Latvia. -
#3.12 Posted by +Zhivago on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:31
- Quote - (Ravensworth said @ #3.11)Latino is an ethnic identification. It's taking a group of people and seperating (segregating) them from everyone else. Why, because they only want to do business with each other? That doesn't sound wrong to you? Whatever. Bring on the .asn domain! While we're at it, black isn't a race either. There is only one race of human beings. So technically having a domain for hispanics is no different then having one for blacks or caucasians. You can argue all you want but it's true.
Of course that's not the only reason this is stupid. As others have pointed out this should belong to Latvia.
There will very soon be .asia domain to identify Asia as a geographic region. Source1 Source2 You find that racist too? Then you can blame only yourself for having racist thoughts. I don't see even anything remotely close to racism here either.
Latvia already has .lv domain.
.eu for Europe has been around for some time now. -
#3.13 Posted by Ravensworth on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:35
- Yeah, .asia not asian. You see the difference yet? One is a geographic region, the other a certain group of people. It also doesn't change the fact that the word latino is offensive to many people. You got your name on the article though so obviously your opinion is much more important and correct. Good day your highness.
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#3.14 Posted by +Zhivago on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:41
- Quote - (Ravensworth said @ #3.13)Yeah, .asia not asian. You see the difference yet? One is a geographic region, the other a certain group of people. It also doesn't change the fact that the word latino is offensive to many people.
No, I don't see a difference .lat will refer to Latin America - a georgraphical region, just like Asia (with .asia) and Europe (with .eu).Quote -Yeah, .asia not asian.
Are you blind? It's .lat, not .latino. And even then, I woulnd't have a problem. .ru refers to both Russia (country) and Russian (culture, laguage, whatever). Is that offensive and rasist too?
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#3.15 Posted by tiagosilva29 on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:51
- Quote - (Zhivago said @ #3.14)No, I don't see a difference .lat will refer to Latin America - a geographical region
No, it won't: "Latin community", and by that, they mean anyone that speaks portuguese, italian, french, romanian, catalan, spanish and a couple of a few obscure languages. That's what being latin means. -
#3.16 Posted by +Zhivago on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:53
- Quote - (Ravensworth said @ #3.13)You got your name on the article though so obviously your opinion is much more important and correct. Good day your highness.
I'm just a news reporter. Whatever made you think that way is a mistery to me. -
#3.17 Posted by +Zhivago on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:56
- Quote -"Latin community", and by that, they mean anyone that speaks portuguese, italian, french, romanian, catalan, spanish and a couple of a few obscure languages. That's what being latin means.
Thanks for bringing this up. I was gonna reply to one of the first comments which immediately labeled the term to refer to hispanic only. -
#3.18 Posted by tiagosilva29 on 19 Nov 2007 - 19:21
- Quote - (Zhivago said @ #3.17)Quote -"Latin community", and by that, they mean anyone that speaks portuguese, italian, french, romanian, catalan, spanish and a couple of a few obscure languages. That's what being latin means.
Thanks for bringing this up. I was gonna reply to one of the first comments which immediately labeled the term to refer to hispanic only.
Don't thank me yet. I'm a latin (portuguese) and I think pretty nasty idea. For exactly that same reason.
The latino branding is being used to represent latins from latin america. Which is wrong, but guess what: even those latinos do it. Latino this, latino that. If I posted a picture of Nadia Comăneci right now, most of these latinos would say that she isn't latin.
That's why it sucks/fails: they're selling a concept that isn't true.
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#4 Posted by Hidr0 on 19 Nov 2007 - 17:41
- well this sux!... such things are racist coño!
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#4.1 Posted by Glassed Silver on 19 Nov 2007 - 20:24
- how come?
identification by your ethnicity is hardly racism.
racism is when you discriminate people of a certain ethnicity for belonging to that group.
plain identification is no racism, or is latino any offensive to latinos? they arent ashamed of being what they are.
and if they were, it would still be right to identify them as latinos. or should their passport say: "ethnicy - <blank due to possible discrimination of writing it>"?
Glassed Silver:mac
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#5 Posted by leesmithg on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:01
- I also as mentioned thought .lat was latvia.
I am sure the Latvians will complain that this should belong to them.
I do not agree that a specific extension should be associated with a racial group as the internet is for everyone of all shapes, sizes and colours.
I bet the next thing will be a .kkk for the racists in the USA. -
#5.1 Posted by Ravensworth on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:19
- Quote -I bet the next thing will be a .kkk for the racists in the USA
Oh right, because only the US has racists. Why not a c18 domain for the neo nazi racists there in England? -
#5.2 Posted by leesmithg on 19 Nov 2007 - 19:37
- Quote - (Ravensworth said @ #5.1)Quote -I bet the next thing will be a .kkk for the racists in the USA
Oh right, because only the US has racists. Why not a c18 domain for the neo nazi racists there in England?
You numptee.
.kkk the klu klux klan or whatever is .kkk
You seem to know a lot about c18 (combat 1 and neo nazis, which are usually middle class office boy thugs.
Is that you?
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Well I am sure that most of us all know Latino is 'Latin American', like, Afro-American, or Irish American.
Latino girls can sure cha cha!
Send some over to me please.
www.latino-girls-cha-cha.lat bo yeah! -
#5.3 Posted by tiagosilva29 on 19 Nov 2007 - 19:49
- Quote - (leesmithg said @ #5.2)Latino girls can sure cha cha!
This is why it will fail. -
#5.4 Posted by Ravensworth on 19 Nov 2007 - 19:59
- Quote -.kkk the klu klux klan or whatever is .kkk
I know what kkk is braniac. I'm just pointing out that your country has racists too.Quote -You seem to know a lot about c18 (combat 1 and neo nazis, which are usually middle class office boy thugs. Is that you?
You seem to know a lot about the kkk (which is usually lower class southern rednecks). Is that you?
I'm just saying; you asked a stupid question I may as well ask you one in return.
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#6 Posted by Darksoft on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:16
- how is called Latino racist?
That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Jesus Christ people, get your heads out of your butts. If anything, Hispanic is more derogatory since it puts emphasis on the Spanish influence and sends the native Indian influence to hell and even that it's a silly position to have.
With all due respect, I think that all of us as LATINOS have a lot of bigger problems than this.
Con todo el respeto, creo que como latinos tenemos problemas mas importantes que este.
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#7 Posted by astrokat on 19 Nov 2007 - 18:25
- I don't know if i would call this racists, but i did sort of cringe when i read the headline myself. There is a better way to have worded this. But i don't see why this is necessary. I don't recall my hispanic friends being in a uproar because .com's were no longer PC. I really wish they would pass the .xxx so I could surf without accidentally finding porn unless i am looking for it.
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#9 Posted by Naveen on 19 Nov 2007 - 19:08
- well at least we can avoid pages not writing in english then?
retali.lat springs to mind, cafe-.lat, maybe pear.lat, something like that?
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#10 Posted by DJ-Light on 19 Nov 2007 - 19:17
- Racist? Are people crazy? That not racism!!
A la verdad que la gente esta loca estos dias! -
#10.1 Posted by A Clockwork Lime on 20 Nov 2007 - 06:25
- Quote - (DJ-Light said @ #10)Racist? Are people crazy? That not racism!!
Any time you want to exclude yourselves from other people of a different group, you're being racists. I mean if the Aryan Nation decided they wanted an .ary extension so that they could have their own little part of the internet so that they could be alone and only deal with their own "people," that wouldn't be racist either? How is it *any* different from this?
It's not. You don't have to be filled with hate to be a racist.
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#11 Posted by TRC on 19 Nov 2007 - 20:43
- The word Latino has become a catch-all for many very different Spanish cultures, and unfortunately for many has come to bring the lowest common denominator to mind. Think bouncing cars. That's probably one reason many don't want to be called that, along with not wanting to be put into a category.
"Whatchu loooking at man? Why don't you take a peecture??
Cartman: "Ok........CLEEK!!!" -
#11.1 Posted by tiagosilva29 on 19 Nov 2007 - 20:58
- Being latin has nothing to do with being from a Spanish culture, but that's what these guys are trying to do: it's wrong.
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#12 Posted by rannan on 19 Nov 2007 - 20:45
- De acuerdo. La gente no latina no entiende este concepto. Creen que la idea del dominio .lat es racista pero solo es para ayudar a buscar páginas de interés para la gente latina. Sí, ¡está muy loca la gente estos días!
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#12.2 Posted by rannan on 19 Nov 2007 - 20:54
- Ok ok. You are right. I was just explaining that the idea of the .lat domain just helps latinos find web sites that are of interest to them.
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#12.3 Posted by naap51stang on 19 Nov 2007 - 22:42
- For those of you who don't know how to use babblefish...
In agreement. NonLatin people do not understand east concept. Think that the idea of the dominion lat is racist but single is for helping to look for pages of interest for Latin people. Yes, people are very crazy these days!Quote - (rannan said @ #12)De acuerdo. La gente no latina no entiende este concepto. Creen que la idea del dominio .lat es racista pero solo es para ayudar a buscar páginas de interés para la gente latina. Sí, ¡está muy loca la gente estos días!
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#13 Posted by WarLuigi on 19 Nov 2007 - 20:51
- For general neowin: This is actually great news, provides a space just for us latinos.
Para mis latinos en Neowin: Excelente hermanos, cada vez mas tenemos presencia en todos lados! Nosotros nos apoderademos del mundo despues de que los chinos que quiebren a los gringos. -
#13.1 Posted by Boolean22 on 19 Nov 2007 - 21:16
- True!!!
Latinos United!!!
Although I'm pretty sure Latin includes every freaking portuguese, brazilian, italian, hispanic, french, etc.
ON ANOTHER NOTE: Latin Americans ARE Americans too,moronic beasts!gentlemen. USA, Mex and Canada is NORTH America, from there to Ecuador, it's CENTRAL America... and the rest (me, for eg.) it's SOUTH America.
Therefore... stop calling yourselves Americans, and us Latinos, cause we ARE Americans too.
He dicho, carajo!!! Aguante Argentina (yes I'm a proud Latinamerican)
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#13.2 Posted by WarLuigi on 19 Nov 2007 - 22:12
- Quote - (Boolean22 said @ #13.1)True!!!
Latinos United!!!
Although I'm pretty sure Latin includes every freaking portuguese, brazilian, italian, hispanic, french, etc.
ON ANOTHER NOTE: Latin Americans ARE Americans too, moronic beasts! USA, Mex and Canada is NORTH America, from there to Ecuador, it's CENTRAL America... and the rest (me, for eg.) it's SOUTH America.
Therefore... stop calling yourselves Americans, and us Latinos, cause we ARE Americans too.
He dicho, carajo!!! Aguante Argentina (yes I'm a proud Latinamerican)
Amigo no le pongas mucha mente. Que onda que la USA es el unico pais que no tiene nombre
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#13.3 Posted by solardog on 19 Nov 2007 - 23:02
- Quote - (Boolean22 said @ #13.1)True!!!
Latinos United!!!
Although I'm pretty sure Latin includes every freaking portuguese, brazilian, italian, hispanic, french, etc.
ON ANOTHER NOTE: Latin Americans ARE Americans too, moronic beasts! USA, Mex and Canada is NORTH America, from there to Ecuador, it's CENTRAL America... and the rest (me, for eg.) it's SOUTH America.
Therefore... stop calling yourselves Americans, and us Latinos, cause we ARE Americans too.
He dicho, carajo!!! Aguante Argentina (yes I'm a proud Latinamerican)
Too bad, we used it first....neener. -
#13.4 Posted by Boolean22 on 19 Nov 2007 - 23:19
- hahahaha that's a good one!! And nobody paid Americo Vespucio a dime for his achievement... how sad! I wander what if it was in this time and age? Would the IP suits fall over the place? :lol:
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#13.5 Posted by +mrbester on 20 Nov 2007 - 11:14
- Quote - (Boolean22 said @ #13.4)hahahaha that's a good one!! And nobody paid Americo Vespucio a dime for his achievement... how sad! I wander what if it was in this time and age? Would the IP suits fall over the place? :lol:
What achievement? That he drew a map (of Latin America BTW)? He got paid for that.
What became known as North America (or just "America" to the USians) was named after a Bristolian merchant called Ameryk who funded the expeditions to Newf and what is now Philly. No country is named after the first name of someone, hence Van Dieman's Land (now Tasmania, after Tasman), Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe), etc.
You bloody separatist colonials can't accept that someone from the hated Old Country is responsible for the name of your oh-so-great country (they still teach the rubbish about poor little cartographer Vespuccio, esp. in the States, but just think about it: why would a lowly mapmaker have continents named after him? Why not the Pope at the time who would have financed expeditions? How does Gregoryland sound?)
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#14 Posted by solardog on 19 Nov 2007 - 22:57
- I'm a proud American Mutt of European ancestry...WOOOF!
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#14.1 Posted by Boolean22 on 19 Nov 2007 - 23:13
- As anyone else in the American Continent, so don't be ashamed!
Unless you have aborigine blood, which are the only ones with right to protest!
If not, there's of course traces of European genoma in yer DNA, bro.
And just in case you were pestering with the "Mutt" stuff, let me say that this ain't Harry Potter's world, man, THERE ARE NO PURE BLOODS AT ALL IN HERE!! ha ha ha ha.
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#15 Posted by Boolean22 on 19 Nov 2007 - 23:32
- Aw, and I forgot.
Not in every Latin language the word "Latino" is conjugated equally. It's TOO MUCH Hispanic, therefore (if not racist) prone to exclusion of our other latin brothers.
Now seriously, without harassment. The problem is not in the term per se, but in the way it is used. There is nothing wrong with words or their meaning, but the context they are used.
In this case, when I glanced the title of this post I thought «Man, that's gonna have a lot of arguing...» cause the sheer grammar is offensive, at least, from certain perspective. I think that the journalist wanted to be "hip" and "cool", but the tone of NeoWin is not adequate for such misuse of a term.
I really want this post corrected. I hope they'll see what they have done wrong.
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#16 Posted by Albert on 20 Nov 2007 - 02:02
- geez. now we have racial segregation at the internet domain level.
expect to see .JEW, .CAU(CASIAN), .IND(IAN), .ARA(B) etc real soon now ...
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#17 Posted by Joseph21 on 20 Nov 2007 - 02:59
- erm there is a LATIN america people...
they are not meaning latinos as ethinicity but as a part of continent from mexico to argentina...
as a ru. for russia, .asia for asia
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#18 Posted by Dane2003 on 20 Nov 2007 - 03:04
- Like really, Why do Latino's need segregation on the internet? They cant use Google to search for sites that interest them or something? Its not like us North Americans have ".nam" or something (The USA has .us which I also think is stupid, i'm not just bashing the idea of .lat). This is pure bull, if you need a special TLD on the internet to find sites of your group, then you dont deserve to be on the internet.
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#18.1 Posted by +Zhivago on 20 Nov 2007 - 04:40
- Quote - (Dane2003 said @ #1)This is pure bull, if you need a special TLD on the internet to find sites of your group, then you dont deserve to be on the internet.
Can you elaborate on this please?
Why have domain name extensions anyway? We can google everything, can't we?
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#19 Posted by Darksoft on 20 Nov 2007 - 15:24
- are you people retarded?
You know how many millions of people are of Latino/Hispanic descent in this world? Just like someone else already said, the same way we have .ru and .jp etc. etc. etc. .lat is just a way to provide better organization and a tool for those people that are looking for websites aimed at them.
It's not segregation, it's not like if you try to access it you will be asked: Are you Latino? Yes to continue, No to exit.
Again, it's just a way hundreds of millions of people to identify a website that's specifically aimed at their market.
Educate yourselves please.
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#20 Posted by Naveen on 20 Nov 2007 - 17:37
- There is NO need to be rude here, Darksoft. I am not retarded and I do not believe that anybody has the right to make that call about anybody else, unless they are claiming that that person may as well not be in their company.
So please elucidate yourself before replying to the comments of myself and others with such an idea. I will not be replying in this thread again ..
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#21 Posted by Magallanes on 20 Nov 2007 - 18:57
- Oddly funny to think that milleniums ago, Latins countries (Empire Romans) was invaded by barbaric (caucasian mainly) tribes and now Latins are invading the caucasian empire (known as USA). At least today, latins are 20% of the US population.
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#21.1 Posted by +Zhivago on 20 Nov 2007 - 20:34
- Quote - (Magallanes said @ #1)Oddly funny to think that milleniums ago, Latins countries (Empire Romans) was invaded by barbaric (caucasian mainly) tribes and now Latins are invading the caucasian empire (known as USA). At least today, latins are 20% of the US population.
Again, don't mix ethnicity/culture (latin) with race (caucasian).
From oxford dictionary:
Caucasian
/korkayzin, -ay&ulzh;’n/
• adjective:
1 relating to a broad division of humankind covering peoples from Europe, western Asia, and parts of India and North Africa.
2 white-skinned; of European origin.
3 relating to the region of the Caucasus in SE Europe.
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#22 Posted by brianshapiro on 20 Nov 2007 - 21:15
- I'm just going to say that there are a lot more useful TLDs than this one, that got rejected or weren't considered.
As for .lat, I don't see any practical reason why it helps to use a .lat domain other than a show of latino pride. But generally I don't see much use for country specific domains either except language versioning, which can be done in alternative ways, or country specific services.
As for others whether xxx, or shortening the museum domain to mus (to actually be useful), or adding topical domains to make up for fact that most domains with .com , .net, and .org have already been grabbed
