Raise your hand if you're tired of negative Vista articles

Neowin member ispamforfood (interesting nickname!) has posted an interesting question on our Back Page News forum asking "Raise your hand if you're tired of negative Vista articles".

It is true that there are many news outlets that are having quite a bit of a lark bashing Microsofts latest offering, hardly surprising based on the real-world problems that many people suffered after upgrading their Windows XP machines. In defence of Microsoft, the recommended machine to use Vista with has increased quite a bit from Windows XP where 256MB of Ram was quite enough (or 512 for optimal performance) and now the recommended is 1gig or 2 depending on who you believe. Personally, I had 1GB in my machine when I upgraded (clean installed) but I only saw an improvement after I added an extra 1GB, bringing my RAM up to 2GB.

It's probably also fair to mention that Microsoft has since released Performance & Stability updates, which do fix a lot of annoyances such as slow copy/paste (calculation time) to other partitions. Anyway I have also done a poll, so voice your opinion by voting Yay or Nay to negativity on Vista by clicking the Member Poll link

Link: Neowin Discussion in Back Page News
Link: Windows XP was also treated the same (thanks deck)

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I like reading negative press about Vista. It will make Microsoft work harder and be more innovative for the next OS release.

I use XP Pro at work, and updated to Vista Ultimate at home about two months ago because I wanted to use Media Centre with my 360, having used XP since it was in release canditate I have to honestly say XP IS THE FASTER MORE RELIABLE OS

Wow, if words were bullets we'd all be shot up pretty good in this thread. Ive never seen such a huge, steaming pile of putrid, rotting crap in my life. Carry on.

arsekicker said,
There's a difference between negativity and constructive criticism....

Yes, and many complaints have been nothing more than useless pointed negativity/bashing of the product and oftentimes it's users. That last part shouldn't even be tolerated anymore it does nothing but cause forum problems.

The odd constructive article is appreciated, I'm sure by MS. 'Vista is the worst tech product in history' isn't.

A lot of people think Aero is just eye candy, nothing more and worthless. It's actually much more than that. The desktop is now drawn with most of the work done by the system's GPU compared to the GDI+ system in XP whereas the desktop is rendered by the CPU and sent to the video card as merely output with no extra processing done by it.

There are benefits to this new architecture:

1. Users can do processor intensive tasks like encoding video without worrying about slowing it down, as tasks like scrolling down web pages are done by mostly the GPU which has nothing to do with the video encoding process.

2. If the desktop freezes for any odd reason, drivers that follow the WDDM specs have the ability to be restarted, without rebooting the whole system. If this happened on XP, one would get a frozen screen, BSOD, or just a blank screen period forcing a reboot.

3. Aero looks nice, and the eye candy introduces a trivial performance hit, and is worth it for how nice the GUI looks. On XP, the GPU would most likely sit idle while just browsing the web, doing nothing, while one's processor will shoot up to 35% or more usage when dragging windows around or scrolling through folders.

As a die-hard Mac user, I do admit to some quiet satisfaction seeing all the bad press Vista gets, but I don't think that Vista deserves such harsh treatment.

I use Vista regularly at home and I find it to be a stable, capable and very attractive-looking OS. I like the eye-candy and the fade-in and out windows. It hasn't crashed once and it seems to behave itself.

On the negative side, the hardware requirements are quite steep, it still acts like a puppy-dog vying for your attention all the time with all of it's pop-up balloons and permission boxes, and it's still susceptible to pop-up windows, viruses, adware and spyware.

I think that all of the tech writers were expecting "revolution," and what they got was "evolution." There's nothing wrong with Vista if you look at it as the next revision of the Win2K/XP family. If you were expecting something magical, then I think that you set your expectations too high.

That and the popular media nowadays LOVES to report on dirt, drama and downfall. Upbeat and positive news apparently doesn't sell advertising, and tech writers have to appear objective, so they do their best to find flaws with everything.


Oh yeah. . . Mac OS X rulez.


KingRocky said,
As a die-hard Mac user, I do admit to some quiet satisfaction seeing all the bad press Vista gets, but I don't think that Vista deserves such harsh treatment.

I use Vista regularly at home and I find it to be a stable, capable and very attractive-looking OS. I like the eye-candy and the fade-in and out windows. It hasn't crashed once and it seems to behave itself.

On the negative side, the hardware requirements are quite steep, it still acts like a puppy-dog vying for your attention all the time with all of it's pop-up balloons and permission boxes, and it's still susceptible to pop-up windows, viruses, adware and spyware.

I think that all of the tech writers were expecting "revolution," and what they got was "evolution." There's nothing wrong with Vista if you look at it as the next revision of the Win2K/XP family. If you were expecting something magical, then I think that you set your expectations too high.

That and the popular media nowadays LOVES to report on dirt, drama and downfall. Upbeat and positive news apparently doesn't sell advertising, and tech writers have to appear objective, so they do their best to find flaws with everything.


Oh yeah. . . Mac OS X rulez.


True dat

Well who else would have beta tested 2008 Server for them if not so many paying customers. You'll get your SP1 for Vista when 2008 goes RTM... x)

not much noticeable difference really between XP and Vista. indeed Vista is a memory hog ain't no doubt about that.
Came out years ahead of it's time. Don't have a problem with the negativity because it's good to point out the problems. If one does spend $200 + on an OS, they oughtta know the bad long before the good. A problem I have with buying stuff from ebay. I'd like to weed out all the positives and look at what one says in what way in the negative.

One thing is for sure, if you don't need to run games, there's always Kubuntu/Ubuntu. Great OS for the spare computer.

don't give a freaking ****, now that leopard is in the even worst spot light, showing the weakness of it's hardware frigidity and ceo's ego-testicleness.

the balance has been restored in the scheme of thing, as always.

1 we need a anti mac video
2 a few years ago people said they would not upgrade from 98 to xp they did not want to buy new hardware guess what now most of those people are on xp


and people that make games and software and drivers should hurry up and do a better job! so more people can upgrade to vista I hope its not this slow when windows 7(vienna) is released

Vista needs improvement, of course it does. So did XP when it was new (If anybody cares to remember, XP was as much as slow resource hog that doesn't work with any hardware as this is now).

But this is pretty well made. XP is 'flimsy' in some areas, some of it seems archaic (Updates, Wireless etc). It's about time they released a new version, and here we are.

At the moment it's a bad idea to upgrade from XP or something. If you build or buy a new system configured specially for Vista, you won't have any problems. I haven't. I'd feel bored if I had XP on this laptop.

A kind advice to all those people who rant Vista - If you think Vista is so bad, why don't you just start your own OS ?

Friends, these people will rant for anything. Tomorrow, if something is released, they would rant, something is not released, they will rant, but what can you expect from these people? I would say, just ignore these people and be true to yourself. You are using Vista, you know how good or bad it is, why to listen to some idiots!

Vista is a dream. I just got myself 2 GB of ram on my inspiron 9300. Vista is just freaking awsome. Runs as smooth as XP. No hiccups at all. yeah! the sys requirements are high I guess. But comeon.... unless you buy stupid MDG computers or stupid off shelf computers from futureshop or bestbuy without any slightest knowledge of things under the hood, any computer nowaday should be able to handle vista well.

I got to agree...there are some issues like stupid UAC and so on,....but well...its a feature and I appreciate the extra layer of security. People just can't stop complaining. As others said.. if you are sooo inclined...just stick with xp or start your own OS.

I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Of all the operating systems I've worked with, this has had to be the easiest to install and configure. I only have 1gig of RAM and it is running fine. I really have no problems. I have a duo core processor but who doesn't these days?

I installed ultimate on my Sony Vaio and all i really had to do was find the correct device drivers and i was off and running. When I had the old device drivers, things were not running properly but that is really all I had to do.

In my opinion, I think that there are many inexperienced computer users out there and if they don't purchase a machine pre-installed with Vista, they are going to have problems.

So I just am assuming that all the negative crap is coming from the inexperienced computer users and I'm not bashing them in any way I'm just saying that is where this problem is coming from.

I LOVE it and think that maybe Microsoft finally got something right. That comment is coming from a Unix lover so take it for what its worth!

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