Over the Thanksgiving holiday, I refreshed one of my Windows Vista test machines. Oh my, there were so many Windows Updates. The Lenovo ThinkPad T60p got a clean OS install, because I wanted to see how the experience has changed since Vista's main launch on January 30. The Vista experience is now a topic of great debate. For example, CNET's Crave blog—UK version, anyway—puts Vista on its list of "top ten terrible tech products."
That's for all time, not just for 2007, or so it looks based on the list. Mac OS X 10.0 was a whole lot worse than Vista, guys. Where were they in 2001? Seventh grade? I hadn't ever done a clean install on the T60p with Vista only, meaning no Lenovo drivers or other software. T60p configuration: 2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 2GB DDR2 SDRAM, 100GB hard drive (but with only about 86.8GB available to the user), 15.4-inch widescreen display with optimum resolution of 1680 x 1050, 256MB ATI Mobility FireGL V5250 graphics processor (dedicated RAM and 767MB shared with the system memory), multi-DVD recorder (which may include DVD-RAM), 802.11 a/b/g wireless, Bluetooth and biometric reader.
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That's for all time, not just for 2007, or so it looks based on the list. Mac OS X 10.0 was a whole lot worse than Vista, guys. Where were they in 2001? Seventh grade? I hadn't ever done a clean install on the T60p with Vista only, meaning no Lenovo drivers or other software. T60p configuration: 2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 2GB DDR2 SDRAM, 100GB hard drive (but with only about 86.8GB available to the user), 15.4-inch widescreen display with optimum resolution of 1680 x 1050, 256MB ATI Mobility FireGL V5250 graphics processor (dedicated RAM and 767MB shared with the system memory), multi-DVD recorder (which may include DVD-RAM), 802.11 a/b/g wireless, Bluetooth and biometric reader.
















It's funny how after a little while of living life with a Mac, games take something of a back seat to everything else.
But if you really are wedded to gaming, then stick with Windows.
The OS X slam, I think, comes at c|net because of their painfully obvious (and ground-less) anti-Microsoft bias. It's not so much about OS X as it is steering the aim away from Vista. They were talking about the worst technologies of *all time*, and the author is saying that there are far worse things than Vista, one example being OS X' first release.
Mac OS X in 2001 was a radical change from OS 9. Although it did have its problems, it was leaps and bounds better than OS 9, and represented a complete shift in design. It was a complete rewrite. You can in no way, shape or form make an OS X (2001) vs. Vista comparison. Vista needs to stand as the pinnacle of Windows design, as the last great Windows OS before something completely new hits the industry from Microsoft. OS X upon its release *was* completely new - a fledgling platform on which to build, to start all over again. But using Vista as a platform for the next 10-15 years is absolutely ludicrous. We need a complete paradigm shift from Redmond, a completely new take on the way we use and interact with computers.
But all this Vista bashing across the board, from the average user, to tech-experts, to the mass media, has people worried. This FUD (alleged) is lasting just a little too long. And when a public tech site that has phenomenal exposure and a huge readership/viewership makes a landmark decision to announce that Vista is one of the worst tech products in recent memory, we need to pay attention, and take a long hard look at what 5 years of development has brought. XP is being promoted and over-promoted. That shouldn't be happening.
I don't know what it is anymore, but something is definitely wrong at Redmond.
Windows 7's development seems to be heading down the tight-lipped route now that the management team in charge of Windows has been shuffled a bit post Vista's release. But that will give bloggers/reporters nothing to write about, and they'll bitch. Guess MS can't win either way.
You have an excellent argument LTD, however, you are missing an important point. c|net has a very well known anti-Microsoft bias. You know that when you go there any Microsoft news will be in a less-than-positive light. You know that any comparison articles will favor the product Microsoft is up against even if the Microsoft product is better. You know that you will rarely if every hear any good news about Microsoft. Therefore, few people should be surprised by this and no one should take it to mean anything other than they are still biased against Microsoft. This total lack of maturity and professionalism is expected at C|net.
Look to credible sites and the reviews are mixed.
Look to Neowin commentary the reviews are mixed.
What have most people been able to agree on? They are tired of the negative Vista press, especially when it's unfounded or repetitive.
You have an excellent argument LTD, however, you are missing an important point. c|net has a very well known anti-Microsoft bias. You know that when you go there any Microsoft news will be in a less-than-positive light. You know that any comparison articles will favor the product Microsoft is up against even if the Microsoft product is better. You know that you will rarely if every hear any good news about Microsoft. Therefore, few people should be surprised by this and no one should take it to mean anything other than they are still biased against Microsoft. This total lack of maturity and professionalism is expected at C|net.
Look to credible sites and the reviews are mixed.
Look to Neowin commentary the reviews are mixed.
What have most people been able to agree on? They are tired of the negative Vista press, especially when it's unfounded or repetitive.
Fair enough, point taken. I suppose it's the Fox News of tech sites . . .
Anyone know how many XP had since Vista was released, I'd be willing to bet it's over double.
but come on people, lets get this vista vs xp vs osx trolling aside.
its just getting on my nerves, i read about it almost everyday and is getting more annoying eveytime.
Heaven forbid anyone should worry about King Duncalot and his fascist corporate stooge police state usurpation of our freedoms and the mortgaging of the entire country to the Chinese at the cost of our collapsing US dollar and future standard of living. Ahem.
Trolling.
Let's see, first you people slammed CNet for it's negative article about Vista, now you slam eWeek. Who will it be next? I can show you some negative articles from PC World and Information Week too.
Come to think of it, every single major tech news site has done negative stories about Vista. Do you think it might be another vast left-wing conspiracy by the "liberal media"? I think it's more likely that Vista deserves some of that criticism.
Keyword: some.
Vista deserves to be criticized to the point where MS is always on their toes fixing stuff they messed up on. But when a site posts "a generally pointless upgrade" as a reason Vista's the "worst product in history" then you know someone wrote that in a mad rush before taking a massive dump.
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