AMD triple-core CPUs to launch in February 2008
Posted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 29 November 2007 - 11:43 · 20 comments & 12766 views
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#2 Posted by phiberoptik on 29 Nov 2007 - 13:41
- The failed project of their quad core design.
I wonder what the ratio of quad cores (these chips) they are producing with 1 defective core and then selling as a triple core are out of a batch of 100....
I mean it makes sense from a business standpoint, so you don't totally lose out on the investment because one core is bad.
But still that just screams the typical view in the past of AMD's quality (yes I know they had a good run with X2 came out, and some of the XP series chips... but this basically puts them in my opinion, back into the view everyone had of them in the past.... -
#2.1 Posted by Foxxx428 on 30 Nov 2007 - 01:52
- They are not producing these based on failed cores. Get a clue.
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#2.2 Posted by ANova on 30 Nov 2007 - 03:32
- Quote - (Foxxx428 said @ #2.1)They are not producing these based on failed cores. Get a clue.
It is you who needs to get a clue. They are indeed quad cores that have failed to meet standards so the bad core is disabled. This saves them from having to throw away otherwise perfectly good tri-core processors and make some money. Intel has been doing the same thing for many years turning failed Pentiums into Celerons typically with reduced clock speeds and memory cache. Same with the Semprons. -
#2.3 Posted by outofcoffee on 01 Dec 2007 - 15:15
- Quote - (ANova said @ #2.2)Quote - (Foxxx428 said @ #2.1)They are not producing these based on failed cores. Get a clue.
It is you who needs to get a clue. They are indeed quad cores that have failed to meet standards so the bad core is disabled. This saves them from having to throw away otherwise perfectly good tri-core processors and make some money. Intel has been doing the same thing for many years turning failed Pentiums into Celerons typically with reduced clock speeds and memory cache. Same with the Semprons.
Where's the basis for your information that tri-core processors are made from failed quad-cores? I'd be interested to see whether the manner in which the single-die coupled cores are engineered allows HT to operate in this fashion.
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#3 Posted by alsheron on 29 Nov 2007 - 15:59
- Why bother? Seriously, are they INSANE? Somebody tell them a company called Intel exists and is whooping their ass.
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#4 Posted by kl33per on 29 Nov 2007 - 17:14
- AMD/ATi chips are currently priced competitively. So whilst AMD maybe not have the fastest processors, they're priced right. Anyway, this indicates nothing about AMD's manufacturing quality. In any run of electronics, there is a failure rate. At the start of a run for a brand new product, the failure rate is high, and goes down over the life of the product as manufacturing techniques improve. Triple core CPU's will outperform dual core CPU's in multi-threaded scenarios, so this is a win for both consumers and AMD.
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#5 Posted by hardgiant on 29 Nov 2007 - 17:57
- AMD is like the Chicago Cubs, they know they are going to lose but they still have to take the field.
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#5.2 Posted by Maysky on 30 Nov 2007 - 01:29
- Quote - (hardgiant said @ #5)AMD is like the Chicago Cubs, they know they are going to lose but they still have to take the field.
At least be a little grateful, without AMD, the triple you'll be seeing is the price you pay for Intel chips.
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#5.3 Posted by outofcoffee on 01 Dec 2007 - 15:16
- Quote - (Maysky said @ #5.2)Quote - (hardgiant said @ #5)AMD is like the Chicago Cubs, they know they are going to lose but they still have to take the field.
At least be a little grateful, without AMD, the triple you'll be seeing is the price you pay for Intel chips.
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Hear hear!
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#6 Posted by seb5150 on 29 Nov 2007 - 20:34
- Like I'm going to run out and spend my hard earned cache on a partially defective CPU.
"I know that one wheel is broken but I can assure you that the other three work perfectly!" - Used car salesman
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#7 Posted by Pippin666 on 29 Nov 2007 - 21:35
- AMD/ATI isn't there to "win" against INTEL, they are simply there to offer alternative and make some money by stealing a bit of the market.
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#7.1 Posted by Baked on 29 Nov 2007 - 22:43
- Quote - (Pippin666 said @ #7)AMD/ATI isn't there to "win" against INTEL, they are simply there to offer alternative and make some money by stealing a bit of the market.
Pip'
Well said!!
They don't have to win, they are just working on increasing market share......which over the last 5-10 yrs they have done very well at the expense of intel!
Hence why intel is fighting back, but ppl don't forget if Intel won we'd go back to the old days we're all intels Genunie cpus used to cost from 700-1500 bucks.....have you forgotten that ? I havn't.
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#8 Posted by richwuk on 29 Nov 2007 - 23:12
- @seb5150:
Unless your buying the fastest CPU of that range, your buying a 'defective' CPU.
AMD have the design so they can do this, Intel can't. AMD are making the best of a bad situation and I hope they sell these off cheap and undercut C2D prices by a good margin.
Can someone tell me how many core's Intel are binning because they are defective and can't be used?
And before anyone call's me an AMD fan boy, I'm typing this on a C2D system... -
#8.1 Posted by chilliadus on 29 Nov 2007 - 23:56
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@seb5150:
Unless your buying the fastest CPU of that range, your buying a 'defective' CPU.
AMD have the design so they can do this, Intel can't. AMD are making the best of a bad situation and I hope they sell these off cheap and undercut C2D prices by a good margin.
Can someone tell me how many core's Intel are binning because they are defective and can't be used?
And before anyone call's me an AMD fan boy, I'm typing this on a C2D system...
We have a saying for that: it's a feature not a defect.
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#9 Posted by HoochieMamma on 30 Nov 2007 - 00:40
- I think it's a great idea. They are still raking in the cash from a CPU that would otherwise be thrown out. From the business perspective it's fantastic.
