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that is self-explaining!
don't be too blue about the world. its common to care for your second recent OS. see -> XP and all Windows before, or major linux distros...

Glassed Silver:mbl

that is self-explaining!
don't be too blue about the world. its common to care for your second recent OS. see -> XP and all Windows before, or major linux distros...

Glassed Silver:mbl

Excuse me, but where it saids this patch resolves worms or viruses?

Nice try.

Well, if theres a vulnerability, that means its not impenetrable by worms/viruses.... if hackers would bother to waste their time exploiting a minority market-shared OS, you'd see more "worms and viruses" for mac.

LOL, you clearly have NO understanding of the Mac's Unix foundation. These security update address vulnerabilities and potential exploits, not viruses which are completely impossible on Mac OS X. I know you PC nuts still computing in the stone ages don't like to hear that and you'll vehemently disagree but guess what? There are still no viruses for the Mac nor will there ever be.

If there are vulnerabilities, there will one day be malware. There isn't any now (well there is, but none are widespread), but saying there won't be any in the future is simply ignorant. If you take a minute and look at how many security flaws are found for the Macintosh and compare it to its rise in popularity, you will see a very obvious pattern. With time, the Mac will gain popularity. With time, its vulnerabilities will grow. Vulnerabilites are exploited for the Mac already, they will be exploited all the more as it grows in popularity.

"31 new security-related fixes." the bit that says security related, security issues exist which is how viruses etc get in

you clearly have NO understanding of security and programing, how the hell doe just being MAC make it impossible to get a virus on??? and get over the linux foundation we all know linux has viruses adn vulnerabiliteies too.

my favourite comment of yours which in all honesty just makes you look stupid
"These security update address vulnerabilities and potential exploits, not viruses which are completely impossible on Mac OS X"

know how viruses get into machines?? i didnt think so

Complete and utter nonsense.

Any system is vulnerable to viruses. Windows is the most frequently targetted for two simple reasons. One is its obvious market share, and two is how running code has traditionally had full access to the system. After Vista, this is obviouly no longer the case, but the market share and application compatibility certainly don't help it out much.

OSX is no less vulnerable to viruses that only need user-level access to the system than any other operating system. The only reason they don't exist is because they're very ineffective.

The real trick that malware can use it privledge escalation, which quite frankly OSX has had more of these exploits over the last year than Vista. If they should hit a double digit market share, and actually become a worthwhile target, you can bet you'll begin to see things that use these vulnerabilities.

You obviously have no idea what the "UNIX foundation" actually means, or does for the system.

They'll be equal when Macs no longer have a superior Unix foundation. Right now there are hundreds of thousands of viruses and spyware for Windows. Know how many exist for the Macintosh? 0. Know how many viruses will exist in the future for Windows? Millions. Know how many viruses will exist in the future for the Macintosh? 0.

ok PC's also have a linux/unix foundation, and there are unix/linix viruses out there, you keep believeing what you believe, all it does is make you look ignorant and well stupid

As a Mac user myself, I find this "head in the sand" mentality frightening.

ahhhhhhh a mac user that doesnt have his head stuck in the proverbial MAC sand a breath of fresh air around here

I bet you have spyware on your Mac right now, you just dont know it!

Mac pussies?

You know pussy?

yeah but they all have windows boxes so how are they gonna write it???????

people with MACS luv them way to much to write a virus for them

Ha ha you are a mac pussy

i hate macs

Why?

I see

in no particular order

1. they dont do what i want to do with computers, im a techy and simply half the stuff i run will not run on MAC.
2. the marketing BS MAC does annoys me
3. MAC users ignorance when it comes to security related issues
4. Hardware compatibility
5. upgradeability
6.Price

ill leave it at that. adn before all the have you ever used one questions, yes i was a mac admin for over a year

If it was so much better than people would be switching at a lot higher rate, so sorry but your wrong!

A padded cell is safer than my bedroom. I still wouldn't want to be in a padded cell... unless I was sleeping, it might be comfortable.

I'm not so sure about that but then again, If I find software that I can't run, I can run parallels (for mac) with windows on it and then run the programs. I can have my cake and eat it too.

So... you need Windows... on a mac... to run software the Mac can't run? It's all so clear to me now.

I guess all those security updates are pretty pointless if your Mac is invincible.

And you clearly missed the many articles dealing with Leopard's firewall flaws.

At least Apple doesn't believe their own hype. They know there's no such thing as perfect code, otherwise there would be no Software Update.

I hope LTD never does get malware on his computer. It would shatter his whole belief system.

your ignorance astounds me, NOTHING is secure if it has an internet connection, NOTHING AT ALL. p.s i thought the firewall was OFF by default on MACS, but in reality it is not important

what you seem to forget is all these programs are coded up by HUMANS, humans make mistakes which is why vulnerabilites exist in the first place, if you have any ports open at all you are vulnerable, the only way your supposed 'impossible to hack' could even close to exist is if all network traffic is blocked, whch will generally make it hard to use the internet please before you post any more ridiculous comments like this, go learn the BASICS of hacking.

to make a computer competely secure (i am going to use the old bill gates one)
you wil need to bury your computer under ground cover it with cement and make sure it is not connected to anything, even then someone could dig it up adn plug it in.

Last edited by whocares78 on 19 Dec 2007 - 01:53

i cant wait, i will laugh my ass off for hours

It would be cool if Neowin could allow you to filter news according to your preferences. Eg: Turn Mac news on or off. Microsoft news on or off. Hardware news on or off, etc. Customize your own front page so to speak.

Might reduce the number of articles that degenerate into pointless and heated Apple vs. Microsoft superiority debates.

I'm using 2000, XP, Vista, OS X, and Ubuntu. I think I'm covered.

never encountered an issue that needed to be patched, do you understand what a security isseue is, if you have encountered it you are screwed. ill patch mine before i encounter them thanks. i guess thats why i have never encountered one, becausei patch my machine!!!!

and yeah i haveused both. and i dont just hate mac, i hate MS too. what was your point again

Ha! My BeBox will crush your puny operating systems! ;D

Unless you're a woman, I have no interest in your "box".