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Slimy   on 09 January 2008 - 16:23 · 18 comments & 13497 views

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The One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) project and Microsoft Corp. are working together to develop a dual-boot system to put both Linux and Windows on laptops aimed at kids in developing countries, the head of OLPC said in an interview Tuesday. "We are working with them very closely to make a dual-boot system so that, like on an Apple, you can boot either one up. The version that's up and running of Windows on the XO is very fast, it's very, very successful. We're working very hard to do both," said Nicholas Negroponte, chairman of OLPC.

It's a brand new development for the XO laptops, as the low-cost notebooks are known, and came about because of Microsoft's friendlier attitude toward open-source software. Microsoft has embraced the open-source community over the past few years in a very different way than before, Negroponte said. "And that really helps, because it's become a little bit less religious than it was a few years ago and that's really good. In the end, I think, the more people that have software and hardware out there, the better."

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#1 Harbinger on 09 Jan 2008 - 16:25
Cool stuff.
(9 replies) #2 Slimy on 09 Jan 2008 - 16:25
The obvious question that comes to mind here is "Why would kids need two operating systems?"
#2.1 rm20010 on 09 Jan 2008 - 17:13
I would guess that some educational software developers that develop for Windows only would like to donate license their software to the OLPC project, thus the potential need for an OS like XP Starter Edition.

If they took off Linux on the OLPCs, Mandriva's CEO (?) is going to have a field day of whining in another open letter to MS. :/

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#2.2 Shane2 on 09 Jan 2008 - 17:33
For the numerous things that Linux doesn't run overly well and its immense complexity?
#2.3 Foub on 09 Jan 2008 - 17:53
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For the numerous things that Linux doesn't run overly well and its immense complexity?


Myths. Linux is just a capable as Windows is. The only thing that Windows really has over Linux are games.

Last edited by Foub on 09 Jan 2008 - 18:33
#2.4 HalcyonX12 on 09 Jan 2008 - 19:20
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If they took off Linux on the OLPCs, Mandriva's CEO (?) is going to have a field day of whining in another open letter to MS. :/


And that's a bad thing? Last time that happened, it actually stopped a very shady deal: http://bigblog.com/web_developer/nigerian-...1170195575.html

[quote]Microsoft threw the money at the supplier after it chose Mandriva Linux for 17,000 laptops for school children across Nigeria. The supplier took the bait and agreed to wipe Mandriva off the machines, but now Nigeria's government has stepped in to stop the dirty deal.[quote]

If MS was ever doing the right thing, then obviously it would still be pursuing the deal now using every legal avenue to its disposal.
#2.5 Foub on 09 Jan 2008 - 19:36
[quote=HalcyonX12 said,#2.4][quote=rm20010 said,#2.1]If they took off Linux on the OLPCs, Mandriva's CEO (?) is going to have a field day of whining in another open letter to MS. :/[/quote]

And that's a bad thing? Last time that happened, it actually stopped a very shady deal: http://bigblog.com/web_developer/nigerian-...1170195575.html

[quote]Microsoft threw the money at the supplier after it chose Mandriva Linux for 17,000 laptops for school children across Nigeria. The supplier took the bait and agreed to wipe Mandriva off the machines, but now Nigeria's government has stepped in to stop the dirty deal.[quote]

If MS was ever doing the right thing, then obviously it would still be pursuing the deal now using every legal avenue to its disposal.[/quote]

I wonder how many don't see what Microsoft had done as a bad thing?
#2.6 Shane2 on 09 Jan 2008 - 19:49
Quote - (Foub said @ #2.3)
Myths. Linux is just a capable as Windows is. The only thing that Windows really has over Linux are games.


Ok then. Try configuring SLI, Multiple Monitors ETC in Linux and you will find out for yourself how much harder it is. It is also well known that Linux is a lot more command line dependant than Windows, which makes it more user-unfriendly
#2.7 Foub on 09 Jan 2008 - 20:48
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Ok then. Try configuring SLI, Multiple Monitors ETC in Linux and you will find out for yourself how much harder it is.


How about the many, many, many hardware issues in Vista? Remember the Apple ad. "Its not what Vista can do for you, but what you can buy for Vista..."

No, Linux has far fewer problems then it once did. Unlike Windows it gets better with each new version, not bloated with nonsense like Windows.

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It is also well known that Linux is a lot more command line dependant than Windows, which makes it more user-unfriendly


Have you actually seem Linux lately?

http://www.esp.eweek.com/article/Myths+Sty...h/220508_1.aspx
#2.8 whocares78 on 10 Jan 2008 - 07:21
i doubt its anythign to do with the kids, its prob just to satisfy MS and linux, remember the linux MS whine about which OS was going to be on it...
#2.9 whocares78 on 10 Jan 2008 - 07:22
[quote=Foub said,#2.5][quote=HalcyonX12 said,#2.4][quote=rm20010 said,#2.1]If they took off Linux on the OLPCs, Mandriva's CEO (?) is going to have a field day of whining in another open letter to MS. :/[/quote]

And that's a bad thing? Last time that happened, it actually stopped a very shady deal: http://bigblog.com/web_developer/nigerian-...1170195575.html

[quote]Microsoft threw the money at the supplier after it chose Mandriva Linux for 17,000 laptops for school children across Nigeria. The supplier took the bait and agreed to wipe Mandriva off the machines, but now Nigeria's government has stepped in to stop the dirty deal.[quote]

If MS was ever doing the right thing, then obviously it would still be pursuing the deal now using every legal avenue to its disposal.[/quote]

I wonder how many don't see what Microsoft had done as a bad thing?[/quote]

i'd guess all those with MS shares
(3 replies) #3 HalcyonX12 on 09 Jan 2008 - 16:39
I'm just wondering why any modification has to be done to the laptop. You can already dual boot Windows and Linux with no problems... just install Windows first because its bootloader likes to overwrite everything else automatically. If any modification has to be made, it's with the Windows installer so that it sets up the bootloader properly, or lets you include Windows as an option in other bootloaders. Can't MS just ship an update for this that can be streamlined into current install discs, and make new install media support this option? This would allow for dual-boot support on PCs as well, or are they going to start changing the PC bios to allow you to select which partition you want to boot from now?
#3.1 plan-9 on 09 Jan 2008 - 16:53
I dont think this is your standard XP or Vista install. Im sure its quite modified.
#3.2 Slimy on 09 Jan 2008 - 16:55
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I dont think this is your standard XP or Vista install. Im sure its quite modified.

Yep, it's a slimmed down version of XP.
#3.3 n_K on 09 Jan 2008 - 17:53
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Yep, it's a slimmed down version of XP.

XP Embedded afaik
(1 reply) #4 Quick Reply on 09 Jan 2008 - 23:23
The whole design of the OLPC was that it was a cute little Linux Laptop... and IMHO Linux is more suited to the project goals than what Windows is (although I don't think that Mandriva Linux is the right Linux Distro).
#4.1 rm20010 on 10 Jan 2008 - 16:44
I would guess Ubuntu would've been a better pick given their philosophy of 'software for everyone.'
#5 Jolidog on 10 Jan 2008 - 09:47
Why are they developing a dual boot system?

Grub anyone?

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