Steve Jobs took the stage this morning at the Macworld Conference & Expo to exhort the Mac faithful and announce a handful of new products.
MacBook Air
The rumors were true. Steve Jobs unveiled Apple's latest portable, the $1,799 MacBook Air, which he called the "world's thinnest notebook." Dissing Sony's TX series, Jobs said that other subnotebook manufacturers inevitably compromise on the display, have mini-keyboards, and run too slowly due to heat issues.
MacBook Air
The rumors were true. Steve Jobs unveiled Apple's latest portable, the $1,799 MacBook Air, which he called the "world's thinnest notebook." Dissing Sony's TX series, Jobs said that other subnotebook manufacturers inevitably compromise on the display, have mini-keyboards, and run too slowly due to heat issues.
Specs:
- 1.6GHz or 1.8GHz Core 2 Duo
- 80GB 1.8" Hard Drive standard, optional 64GB solid-state drive
- 0.76" thick at thickest point, weighs 3lbs.
- 2GB RAM
- 5 hours of battery life
- $1,799 for 1.6GHz, 80GB HD model; $3,099 for 1.8GHz, 64GB SSD model
- Full aluminum case
The MacBook Air is silver, weighs 3 lbs. and has a wedge-shaped profile that's 0.76" thick at the fattest point and 0.16" thick at its thinnest point. There's a full-size keyboard, a 13.3" widescreen display with LED backlighting, and a built-in iSight. The keyboard has an ambient light sensor similar to that of the MacBook Pro, and the trackpad supports multitouch gestures for panning, zooming, and rotating.
On the hardware side, the MacBook Air comes standard with an 80GB 1.8" hard drive, with a 64GB solid-state drive available. It's powered by an Intel Core 2 Duo running at 1.6GHz, with an option for a 1.8GHz model. According to Jobs, the Core 2 Duo in the MacBook Air is 60 percent smaller than standard C2D CPUs.
There's no optical drive or Ethernet port on the MacBook Air. The new laptop only includes built-in 802.11n, USB, DVI, and a headphone jack. Software installations can be done remotely using "Remote Disk," which allows the MacBook Air to access the optical drive of a networked Mac or PC.
Jobs also touted the environmentally-friendly nature of the MacBook Air. It has a full aluminum case, which he said is "highly desired by recyclers," a bromide- and PVC-free motherboard, and the retail packaging takes less than 50 percent of the volume of the previous packaging.
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Last edited by Steven on 15 Jan 2008 - 20:37
wow, thats low. not only its overpriced, but they also find another way to cheat a customer.
wow, thats low. not only its overpriced, but they also find another way to cheat a customer.
Well, seeing how they are not hiding this, they are in fact not cheating anyone
wow, thats low. not only its overpriced, but they also find another way to cheat a customer.
Well, seeing how they are not hiding this, they are in fact not cheating anyone
no they are simply scamming them.
On a serious note, sometimes with laptops it is required to remove the battery to solve problems...how the hell is that goign to work..and befroe you say it not just PC laptops..or for long trips when you need more battery life.. you can't just take a spare battery with you..
hell apple even recommends removing it under certian circumstances
http://www.apple.com/au/batteries/notebooks.html
It is a bit of a worry that they havent learnt their lesson on user replaceable batteries by now....
wow, thats low. not only its overpriced, but they also find another way to cheat a customer.
Well, seeing how they are not hiding this, they are in fact not cheating anyone
no they are simply scamming them.
On a serious note, sometimes with laptops it is required to remove the battery to solve problems...how the hell is that goign to work..and befroe you say it not just PC laptops..or for long trips when you need more battery life.. you can't just take a spare battery with you..
hell apple even recommends removing it under certian circumstances
http://www.apple.com/au/batteries/notebooks.html
It is a bit of a worry that they havent learnt their lesson on user replaceable batteries by now....
No, they're not scamming either, a scam would also be where its hidden, this is not hidden, you know it upfront and its your choice
wow, thats low. not only its overpriced, but they also find another way to cheat a customer.
Well, seeing how they are not hiding this, they are in fact not cheating anyone
no they are simply scamming them.
On a serious note, sometimes with laptops it is required to remove the battery to solve problems...how the hell is that goign to work..and befroe you say it not just PC laptops..or for long trips when you need more battery life.. you can't just take a spare battery with you..
hell apple even recommends removing it under certian circumstances
http://www.apple.com/au/batteries/notebooks.html
It is a bit of a worry that they havent learnt their lesson on user replaceable batteries by now....
No, they're not scamming either, a scam would also be where its hidden, this is not hidden, you know it upfront and its your choice
Yes you are absolutely correct. They are not scamming. They are just ripping you off.
agreed, the hardware in macs are just so far behind that of a pc
i can get alot more than that for 3 grand
maybe if i was one of them rich mac fanboys...
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+1
Looks good..
but just found that it didnt have optical drive :-( (not a big issue though!
too much pricey :-(
no ethernet port either.. what if i want to transfer files FAST...
no ethernet port either.. what if i want to transfer files FAST...
no ethernet port either.. what if i want to transfer files FAST...
so that uses up the one and only USB port, so now i dont have USB port!!!
I'm not saying this is cheap, but compartively, it's cheaper.
I can't believe I said all this, I hate Apple...
I'm not saying this is cheap, but compartively, it's cheaper.
I can't believe I said all this, I hate Apple...
Apple also lied about the size of their one compared to others... Sony has one thinner then this
I'm not saying this is cheap, but compartively, it's cheaper.
I can't believe I said all this, I hate Apple...
Apple also lied about the size of their one compared to others... Sony has one thinner then this
Air
Intel Core2 Duo @ 1.6GHz
2GB RAM
80GB HD
No Optical
0.76" @ thickest
3 lbs
$1,799
TX
Intel Core Solo @ 1.2GHz
1GB RAM (Max 1.5 GB)
80GB HD
DVD+-RW
0.83-1.23"
2.84 lbs
$1,999
Apple standard RAM is higher than the maximum you can get for the TX, a much better CPU, and the Air is thinner/sleeker in profile. The sacrifice for the reduced size is no optical drive, which might be a deal-breaker for some people. The cost is also $200 less than the Sony TX list price.
Seems in roughly the same pricing ballpark, yet some lament the Apples as being "way overpriced". I'm not seeing it here.
Last edited by markjensen on 15 Jan 2008 - 20:23
I'm not saying this is cheap, but compartively, it's cheaper.
I can't believe I said all this, I hate Apple...
Apple also lied about the size of their one compared to others... Sony has one thinner then this
Link to what? watch the key notes when Jobs says the size of the smallest Sony laptop he didn't talk about the SMALLEST sony laptop... which is a tad bit thinner then the mac
I'm not saying this is cheap, but compartively, it's cheaper.
I can't believe I said all this, I hate Apple...
Apple also lied about the size of their one compared to others... Sony has one thinner then this
Link to what? watch the key notes when Jobs says the size of the smallest Sony laptop he didn't talk about the SMALLEST sony laptop... which is a tad bit thinner then the mac
Provide me with a link to the sony site, otherwise you fail.
I can't believe I'm defending a Mac... yikes
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I'm not saying this is cheap, but compartively, it's cheaper.
I can't believe I said all this, I hate Apple...
Apple also lied about the size of their one compared to others... Sony has one thinner then this
Link to what? watch the key notes when Jobs says the size of the smallest Sony laptop he didn't talk about the SMALLEST sony laptop... which is a tad bit thinner then the mac
Provide me with a link to the sony site, otherwise you fail.
I can't believe I'm defending a Mac... yikes
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/65163
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/65163
And that, for a stab at a 0.01" thickness advantage. Better not set that on a piece of paper.
I take it your deal-finding persona drives one sweet ass Hyundai Pony!
The sad part is you probably think that's an insult.
Anyways, I always like to see Apple get caught fibbing. Just like the 'World's fastest PC' commercials they had to stop airing.
I take it your deal-finding persona drives one sweet ass Hyundai Pony!
Uh no I buy used cars
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Last edited by FusionOpz on 15 Jan 2008 - 20:49
and get myself one of those..
sweeeet...
A white keyboard with an aluminum finish? Yuck!
A white keyboard with an aluminum finish? Yuck!
Thats exactly what the current Apple keyboards look like?
I agree, it would have looked much nicer with white keys.
This was probably the worst keynote for apple in a long time.
no 3g for iphone, Amazon beat them to the punch with movie rentals as did Netflix.
you got an upgraded Apple tv that no one wants anyway.
and the biggest announcement is a thin overpriced laptop.
This was probably the worst keynote for apple in a long time.
no 3g for iphone, Amazon beat them to the punch with movie rentals as did Netflix.
you got an upgraded Apple tv that no one wants anyway.
and the biggest announcement is a thin overpriced laptop.
Dont forget charging existing ipod touch users $20 to get stuff that is free for new owners even if they bought it yesterday! (heck in that case I'd return it and get a new one *LOL*)
But at that price, I'd rather be carrying around my MacBook Pro and burn a DVD wherever I want, without doing it wirelessly with another computer.
But at that price, I'd rather be carrying around my MacBook Pro and burn a DVD wherever I want, without doing it wirelessly with another computer.
A 3000 doallar "sub" notebook? I'd rather go get an EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEpc, as far as a "sub notebook" goes... and I can save oh... about 2,800 dollars.
How so? Both are "sub notebooks".. both have no optical drive... both have SSD... and yet... one is 2800+ more than the other. I know, I know... the Mac is more powerfull than the Eee PC, but is it worth 2800 dollars? Hell I could buy the Eee, another laptop, and build two desktops at the price of that thing.
edit:
just saw that it only has one usb port, that sucks, they should have had two atleast (eee has 3 which is pretty impressive)
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btw a 32GB SSD costs $400 from newegg, I can only assume a 64gb would cost over $800. Why you are comparing that model to the EEE pc is beyond me (which has a 4GB ssd, worth what, $60?)
How so? Both are "sub notebooks".. both have no optical drive... both have SSD... and yet... one is 2800+ more than the other. I know, I know... the Mac is more powerfull than the Eee PC, but is it worth 2800 dollars? Hell I could buy the Eee, another laptop, and build two desktops at the price of that thing.
You can do that with the Sony as well, which is more expensive then the Apple
btw a 32GB SSD costs $400 from newegg, I can only assume a 64gb would cost over $800. Why you are comparing that model to the EEE pc is beyond me (which has a 4GB ssd, worth what, $60?)
Because it's a "sub-notebook" take that 800.. no, let's call it a 1000 dollars and upgrade the Eee with that SS drive. Ummm... a total of about... $1400 after all is said and done. IS that CLOSE to the 3 grand Apple wants? NOPE.
Just because you call both of them "sub notebooks" doesn't mean they are equivalent and should be the same price. Just because a bicycle and a car are both "transportation" doesn't mean they have the same performance and features, and should cost the same.
Just because you call both of them "sub notebooks" doesn't mean they are equivalent and should be the same price. Just because a bicycle and a car are both "transportation" doesn't mean they have the same performance and features, and should cost the same.
Mark, while I respect you AND your tech knowledge greatly... I don't think comparing a bike to a car is accurate in this case. More like... a Geo Storm to an Acura NSX. Both are cars.. and yet.. one is WAY better than the other. Sure you can put a new engine, exaust and ECM in the Geo and make it as fast as the NSX, but it will never be as good. That's why I compaired the Eee to the Air. I don't think the fetures of the Air are worth the price. For $299 you get something "similar" to the Air, granted not as powerfull or stylish. Yes no maybe so?
I like the idea of this Mac Air. I think it looks nice and has very good tech qualities, but it's not for me. Add a Super Drive to that setup, and I'd think it would be something to consider for less than two grand. Untill then, my next lappie is going to be.. a Mac Book. Only then, will I be legaly able to boot my four favorite OSes!
btw a 32GB SSD costs $400 from newegg, I can only assume a 64gb would cost over $800. Why you are comparing that model to the EEE pc is beyond me (which has a 4GB ssd, worth what, $60?)
rarely used by You maybe, i could not do a lot of work without an optical drive.. and a docking station makes the whole portable thing a joke, as a dockign station aint portable... i need to burn stufdf while i am away and onsite, not to mention when im a way i like to watch movies to pass the time, on planes in hotels etc etc
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Some people won't let a little thing like logic get in their way
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Some people won't let a little thing like logic get in their way
Yeah ok. Please show me where I'm wrong.
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Some people won't let a little thing like logic get in their way
Yeah ok. Please show me where I'm wrong.
The two machines that you're comparing. It would be like comparing a low end eMachines, around the ballpark price of $200-$300, to a quad Xeon based Precision Workstation. Sure, they're both computers, but they are not on the same spec level.
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Some people won't let a little thing like logic get in their way
Yeah ok. Please show me where I'm wrong.
The two machines that you're comparing. It would be like comparing a low end eMachines, around the ballpark price of $200-$300, to a quad Xeon based Precision Workstation. Sure, they're both computers, but they are not on the same spec level.
YES I KNOW THAT! I'm saying the DIFFERENCE DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE HIGHER PRICE!!
but at least they are trying to do something new and cool
cant say the same for others!
also how uses optical drives?!!! its USB external HDD's and flash!! we all download stuff now!
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but at least they are trying to do something new and cool
cant say the same for others!
also how uses optical drives?!!! its USB external HDD's and flash!! we all download stuff now! !
wierd the amount of PC users that come out and say "I hate Apple" thats as strange as people coming out and saying "I love apple" Its just a company, you either like or not like its products. MS has done a lot of dodgy stuff in the past, but can't say I'd waste any thought on hating them, they have good things and bad things.
This Air, quite nice, but it, like the iPhone is too compromissed, so if I was going to spend that money on a Apple laptop I'd get a Mac Book Pro for the price. The price as mentioned I don't think it is too bad when compared to other ultra portables, but..... until I see it in real life, I prefer the Sony Ultraportable, the Airs should maybe have had more then one option, the 13" down to a 11" screen, now that AND a 11" screen I might have being tempted.
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p.s. he probably edited the quote part, if you hadent noticed he edited the top one too....
Last edited by whocares78 on 16 Jan 2008 - 01:33
He edited the post you responded to. You quoted it, so he had to edit yours, too.
(I had to edit this just because everyone else is doing it.)
Last edited by GreyWolfSC on 16 Jan 2008 - 03:58
I'll wait and see what other companies come out with.
I'll wait and see what other companies come out with.
No, costly, but not overpriced compared to similar manufacturers sub notebooks, the sony is more expensive.
I'll wait and see what other companies come out with.
No, costly, but not overpriced compared to similar manufacturers sub notebooks, the sony is more expensive.
Interesting... what about the Asus EEEPC? Kinda close, sub notebook, no optical drive... but how much is the EEEPC? $299... how much is the Mac Book Air? STARTS AT $1799. Not overpriced? Oh you want the SSD... starting at $3098!! WOW!!! You're SOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT!!! THAT'S NOT OVER PRICED!!! THAT'S A ****ING RIP OFF!!
I'll wait and see what other companies come out with.
No, costly, but not overpriced compared to similar manufacturers sub notebooks, the sony is more expensive.
Interesting... what about the Asus EEEPC? Kinda close, sub notebook, no optical drive... but how much is the EEEPC? $299... how much is the Mac Book Air? STARTS AT $1799. Not overpriced? Oh you want the SSD... starting at $3098!! WOW!!! You're SOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT!!! THAT'S NOT OVER PRICED!!! THAT'S A ****ING RIP OFF!!
THEN WHAT ABOUT THE BLOODY SONY, COME ONE?????????????????????????
I'll wait and see what other companies come out with.
No, costly, but not overpriced compared to similar manufacturers sub notebooks, the sony is more expensive.
Interesting... what about the Asus EEEPC? Kinda close, sub notebook, no optical drive... but how much is the EEEPC? $299... how much is the Mac Book Air? STARTS AT $1799. Not overpriced? Oh you want the SSD... starting at $3098!! WOW!!! You're SOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT!!! THAT'S NOT OVER PRICED!!! THAT'S A ****ING RIP OFF!!
THEN WHAT ABOUT THE BLOODY SONY, COME ONE?????????????????????????
I wouldn't buy that POS either. I only have one laptop, it's a Compaq and it's not fast.. but it only cost me $599. My 3 other PCs, I built myself. Later this year I am looking at the Mac Book only because I want to quad boot OS X, Ubuntu, XP and Vista. Makes for one nice all-in-one machine.
I'll wait and see what other companies come out with.
No, costly, but not overpriced compared to similar manufacturers sub notebooks, the sony is more expensive.
Interesting... what about the Asus EEEPC? Kinda close, sub notebook, no optical drive... but how much is the EEEPC? $299... how much is the Mac Book Air? STARTS AT $1799. Not overpriced? Oh you want the SSD... starting at $3098!! WOW!!! You're SOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT!!! THAT'S NOT OVER PRICED!!! THAT'S A ****ING RIP OFF!!
THEN WHAT ABOUT THE BLOODY SONY, COME ONE?????????????????????????
I wouldn't buy that POS either. I only have one laptop, it's a Compaq and it's not fast.. but it only cost me $599. My 3 other PCs, I built myself. Later this year I am looking at the Mac Book only because I want to quad boot OS X, Ubuntu, XP and Vista. Makes for one nice all-in-one machine.
Sorry, like the Mac Air, the Sony is expensive, but both of them are not POS and I can't see why you would call them such. Ultraportables have always cost more.
Like you, as I said earlier, I would not buy the Air, too compromised, I would get another of the range instead of that, but just cause it is the same price as the competition and not suitable to my needs, I don't see a need to go on a tirade about it. Its different, priced for the market, will not suit most, but that is the same for other PC in the same market THAT ARE PRICED SIMILAR.
I'll wait and see what other companies come out with.
No, costly, but not overpriced compared to similar manufacturers sub notebooks, the sony is more expensive.
Interesting... what about the Asus EEEPC? Kinda close, sub notebook, no optical drive... but how much is the EEEPC? $299... how much is the Mac Book Air? STARTS AT $1799. Not overpriced? Oh you want the SSD... starting at $3098!! WOW!!! You're SOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT!!! THAT'S NOT OVER PRICED!!! THAT'S A ****ING RIP OFF!!
THEN WHAT ABOUT THE BLOODY SONY, COME ONE?????????????????????????
I wouldn't buy that POS either. I only have one laptop, it's a Compaq and it's not fast.. but it only cost me $599. My 3 other PCs, I built myself. Later this year I am looking at the Mac Book only because I want to quad boot OS X, Ubuntu, XP and Vista. Makes for one nice all-in-one machine.
Sorry, like the Mac Air, the Sony is expensive, but both of them are not POS and I can't see why you would call them such. Ultraportables have always cost more.
Like you, as I said earlier, I would not buy the Air, too compromised, I would get another of the range instead of that, but just cause it is the same price as the competition and not suitable to my needs, I don't see a need to go on a tirade about it. Its different, priced for the market, will not suit most, but that is the same for other PC in the same market THAT ARE PRICED SIMILAR.
Why are you harping on the Sony? It's only one of hundreds of PC notebook models. We know Sony is overpriced. Fortunately, they're not the only company that makes Windows notebooks.
Last edited by evo_spook on 15 Jan 2008 - 20:41
Yikes, didn't even notice that.. no way would I buy one of these now after having now many notebook batteries die over the years
yawn
almost as good as yours..
Either buy the external disk drive, or run the included software on another computer and install it wirelessly through the other computers disk drive. Or get an ISO...
Then you have the weight aspect, hence the name. Its really light. 3 pounds means you can literally stand and rest the thing on your arm while you bash away entering someone's report. Being so thin, not even an -inch-, makes it easy to pack, and would thrive in a travelling case built for a bigger machine.
The environmental angle is obviously to placate the general public over previous waste concerns. Its good practise, soon the iphone, imac and ipod range will incorporate all the same features.
That explains the Apple logo.
i agree weigth is a big deal, but if i gave my sales guys a laptop like that theyd throw it at me, 'how am i supposed to watch DVD's, how do i burn a CD for a customer', and the boss's would have a fit and ask why they all have such expensive machines and i have no idea where you get the 'free' bit. it may be a tax right off, but management still cares about price..
think its overpriced - dont buy it.
hate apple - dont buy anything by them.
its as simple as that.
think its overpriced - dont buy it.
hate apple - dont buy anything by them.
its as simple as that.
Exactly.
Same thing for those which say the same of Microsoft.
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Last edited by evo_spook on 15 Jan 2008 - 21:08
Ever noticed how all apple-related news have like 100+ posts on them? it's not the "apple fanboys", it's losers who need to come in and trash talk a piece of plastic (or aluminum)
If theres an external port for external devices - that would be a good thing
I am thinking, trying to install Farcry or some game thats on 4+ DVD's, how long would that take to install wirelessly
Who will they compare themselves to next?
Wireless is weak as hell.
Lame.
Last edited by EL1TE on 15 Jan 2008 - 21:35
It still doesn't appeal me, for some reason.
I like the portability of regular macbooks.
No replaceable battery
1 USB 2.0
No optical drive
80GB 4200rpm HD PATA (wow. Talk about slooooooooooooooow!)
RAM not upgradeable
Mono Speaker
No Ethernet
No Express Card
No Card Reader
No WWAN
No Firewire
You can get a USB ethernet adapter, but that would use up the 1 USB port.
$1800 to start. OK, who is buying this overpriced, stylish piece of junk?
Last edited by NateB1 on 15 Jan 2008 - 22:13
Brainwashed apple fanboys?
Yeah. The USB Ethernet Adapter. To plug into your one USB port. What happens if you want to use the USB Super Drive and the USB Ethernet Adapter at the same time? Buy a hub?
Yeah. The USB Ethernet Adapter. To plug into your one USB port. What happens if you want to use the USB Super Drive and the USB Ethernet Adapter at the same time? Buy a hub?
Exaclty. It's not so thin when you carry around an external "super drive", Ethernet Adapter and USB hub.
Yeah. The USB Ethernet Adapter. To plug into your one USB port. What happens if you want to use the USB Super Drive and the USB Ethernet Adapter at the same time? Buy a hub?
Exaclty. It's not so thin when you carry around an external "super drive", Ethernet Adapter and USB hub.
Yeah. The USB Ethernet Adapter. To plug into your one USB port. What happens if you want to use the USB Super Drive and the USB Ethernet Adapter at the same time? Buy a hub?
Exaclty. It's not so thin when you carry around an external "super drive", Ethernet Adapter and USB hub.
You want your computer making choices? No thanks.
Anyways, we'll see a large line of people waiting outside a store, maybe for days... Ahhh, geek trends.
3000 for a ssd may seem like a lot... but for ssd thats a pretty big drive... not to mention the technology is new.
Just like with everything else thats new... it will come down in time.
If Apple were to have any hope in hell in selling this thing, they'll really need to drop the prices considerably to say in the $1 200 to $1 500 CDN range (or even less if possible). I may find their products very innovative (I own an iBook and an iPod Nano), but let's face it. This product's going to flop!
What I don't get is why the heck they really need to put that fast of a processor in there. I mean honestly, for what it would be used for I think that's somewhat overkill. I imagine the most intensive app you'd be running on it would be parallels, so I'd be perfectly happy if they offered a model with an even slower processor giving the comp less heat generated and lower price while increasing battery life most likely.
Also, as far as comparing this to the EeePC, I don't think it's a valid comparison. I mean the Air has a much nicer screen and is loaded with a full OS. Additionally, it's got a heck of a lot more storage capacity and processing power in comparison. With the OS and computing power, the Air is a much more flexible mobile platform that can perform a much wider variety of tasks.
Just noticed, I kind of feel like the trackpad button should be bigger. I rather like the size of it on my macbook pro...
Last edited by Solecs on 15 Jan 2008 - 22:33
It looks so nice! I wanna buy one!
Now everyone thinks apple is high tech ****. **** steve jobs
Here: http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/05/05...op/index_01.htm
Oh, and unlike Airs 5hr batterylife... this beauty has 14hrs!
Last edited by Neo-Lenin on 15 Jan 2008 - 22:47
The Air wont be available for sale for another couple of weeks, and less than a month ago it was "a prototype", just like all the other "prototypes" out there that apple decided to use and rush to release first.
The Air wont be available for sale for another couple of weeks, and less than a month ago it was "a prototype", just like all the other "prototypes" out there that apple decided to use and rush to release first.
Theres quite a difference between a technological showcase prototype to sell a new technology to manufacturers and a released product.
MS isn't the only company doing multi-touch.
My XPS 1330 might weigh more but I'm getting a 160 GB - 5400 diskdrive, DVD±RW, 8 in 1 card reader,2 Megapixel camera, modem, network adapter, 2 usb ports, firewire, 13.3" screen and a battery that lasts longer than 5 hours. and more...Plus it's expandable...
It my weigh more but I'm willing to live with a few extra pounds for what I'm getting...
oh yea, I paid less than 1500.00.
I just wish you fanboys could at some time in your life actually admit when you have a product that doesn't live up to what it should instead of wrapping yourself inside the RDF.
Just one Apple fanboy. Please. Just admit this is one of the most ridiculous notebooks you've seen. It might look ok but as far as usability? please........
Seriously.
Last edited by whistlerxp on 15 Jan 2008 - 23:23
Seriously.
and still macbook pro its overpriced....
Seriously.
and still macbook pro its overpriced....
For an ultra portable laptop you don't need optical drive; it saves some battery, too.
Missing quite a lot of important features and finger print reader.
But if you're in the market for a really light and thin notebook this looks good (price is a little too high though). Maybe it's a good idea to wait until the 2nd or 3rd generation.
And it runs OS X.
Leave it to Apple to impress.
This thing looks crazy good.
It's not about what's "missing" . . . it's about where Apple is headed with this technology. For what it is, this thing will simply fly off the shelves, and hey, people (like me) will certainly be willing to pay a premium for a premium experience.
Ask any Mac user just how right he is.
Ask any Mac user just how right he is.
ok well thats good, there no technical reason's for it, they just think they're better than everyone else.... we all know the just works isn't alwasy true (keyboard problems, patches do get released, etc etc) look slow dated and dumb, ummm how does that work again, my PC at home is way faster than any mac on the market, and i got a real pretty case, that i picked myself. personally i think the apple cases are ugly...dumb well i wont comment on that.
Last edited by evo_spook on 16 Jan 2008 - 02:21
as for the if it werent for apple, you do realise apple was on the brink of bankrupcy a few years ago, before the ipod was released... before that PC's were still advancing and were not stuck in the 80's. if it wasn't for intel and AMD, and the million and one other tech companies that actully came up with the hardware and inovations we see today in computers, then yeah we'd still be stuck in the 80's, but one thing you definatley cannot claim is apple is the reason we are not still stuck in the 80's when it comes to computing....i have no problem giving credit where credit is due e.g. apple created the MP3 player market..yes even though some came before, it was apple that made them mainstream... but reallly dont give them credit for something they had nothgin to do with..
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a slim laptop with a slower CPU, a small and slow HD, just a single USB port, no firewire, a mono speaker, a non-removable battery, and no expansion options?
Not truly innovative when you really look at it now is it?
actually, if not for Bill Gates, Apple may not even be here....Give credit where credit is due indeed.
As usual Crapple proclaiming something earth shatteringly new using the same hardware as the rest of the market, just in a different wrapper. Give me a break.
We all know that the only reason Crapple is still around is to keep that c0cksp@nk Jobs in constant supply of turtle neck sweaters...............
As usual...under-spec'd, overpriced
Its easy to see why Apple will never subscribe to truth in advertising....."Its got less, but costs more, because its Crapple"
Why doesnt God kill the Apple fanatics (Job's sheep i call them) and make the world a saner and less smelly place.....
Last edited by stylemessiah on 16 Jan 2008 - 03:38
so what about every single other apple product??
If the macbook air was human....
human air
If Windows Based laptops were human...
sexy
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Last edited by Albert on 16 Jan 2008 - 03:33
When Jobs announces a scaled down laptop with crappy specs and the fanboys drool over it then I get a little frustrated.
See, the difference between mac fanboys and Windows fanboys is that we will let everyone know if we feel that the product being presented is crap. When Apple fanboys see a product being presented and even if it isn't a very good product, they will never admit it.
When Jobs announces a scaled down laptop with crappy specs and the fanboys drool over it then I get a little frustrated.
See, the difference between mac fanboys and Windows fanboys is that we will let everyone know if we feel that the product being presented is crap. When Apple fanboys see a product being presented and even if it isn't a very good product, they will never admit it.
The problem is, not many Mac people have "drooled" over this mac, most have said they wouldn't buy it, as such are you bashing the laptop on them or on your perception of them.
The machine isn't for everyone, but it isn't crap, but it is compromised, the problem is you slamming it for overpriced, but totally ignoring the competiton is the same price and also going on a tirade on perceived fanboyism rather then evidence on show. Don't you think the windows fanboys who find pleasure coming in and bashing the new mac no matter if they are justified or not are just as bad as those who will blindly praise.
As for saying windows fanboys will let everyone know if they feel a product is crap they will let everyone know, I'm sorry but my opinion that is just a personal opinion of what you want to believe, people are people, there will be mac people who are hard to please, just as there are as many Windows people who will blindly follow and praise MS no matter what.
Classic blind faith by the fanboys, theyve never even heard of "reality"
"We must obey Steve, for Steve is god"
Jobs is lucky he's at Crapple, in any other business he'd be shown for the techno fraud he is, he merely peddles others ideas and probably hasnt written code since Sinclairs were new......Oh and lets not mention that share fraud thing he narrowly escaped from....
any idiot thinking Steve Jobs is a "man of vision" needs medication, he's a figurehead and a questionable one at that
Last edited by stylemessiah on 16 Jan 2008 - 03:47
Classic blind faith by the fanboys, theyve never even heard of "reality"
"We must obey Steve, for Steve is god"
Jobs is lucky he's at Crapple, in any other business he be shown for the techno fraud he is, he merely peddles others ideas and probably hasnt written code since Sinclairs were new......Oh and lets not mention that share fraud thing he narrowly escaped from....
When you make a argument that makes sense, we will be able to sensibly reply but just at the moment theres nothing to reply back to
Classic blind faith by the fanboys, theyve never even heard of "reality"
"We must obey Steve, for Steve is god"
Jobs is lucky he's at Crapple, in any other business he be shown for the techno fraud he is, he merely peddles others ideas and probably hasnt written code since Sinclairs were new......Oh and lets not mention that share fraud thing he narrowly escaped from....
When you make a argument that makes sense, we will be able to sensibly reply but just at the moment theres nothing to reply back to
Ill start making arguments that make sense (to you), right after Crapple sells hardware at realistic prices......
'compromised' ????? WTF.... and your comparing to sony, we all know sony is overpriced, and personally i think all sony laptops are also CRAP, the amount of problems ive had with vaio's.. give me a toshiba anyday..
'compromised' ????? WTF.... and your comparing to sony, we all know sony is overpriced, and personally i think all sony laptops are also CRAP, the amount of problems ive had with vaio's.. give me a toshiba anyday..
So Whocares78 thinks they're crap so they must be crap.
'compromised' ????? WTF.... and your comparing to sony, we all know sony is overpriced, and personally i think all sony laptops are also CRAP, the amount of problems ive had with vaio's.. give me a toshiba anyday..
So Whocares78 thinks they're crap so they must be crap.
from personal expierience, my personal opinion is yeah, theyare crap.. doesnt mean others wont like them..
Take a look here. This is just one example from one company. Do you NOT see the difference? Not only in functionality but price?
Dell
I think some people fail to grasp how engineering/cost works
Last edited by obsolete_power on 16 Jan 2008 - 05:23
I no longer need a suitcase on wheels to transport my old 1.5" thick 6lbs notebook.
too subtle?
Expensive yes. But a nice standard unit (by standard I mean that it's be used for daily tasks which don't vary much)
Yikes... so you will need another PC around to install software from a disk.
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