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It is free to use commercially, it just doesn't have support with it. Just to be sure we're on the same page, you are talking about a business using MySQL, right?

Yea.

http://www.mysql.com/oem/licensing.html

That's OEM licensing, not business licensing.

"OEMs, ISVs, and VARs who distribute MySQL with their products, and are not licensing and distributing their source code under the GPL..."

Whats the difference? They all make money using MySQL by selling their products.

Last edited by night_stalker_z on 16 Jan 2008 - 17:37

There's big difference between someone reselling MySQL with a product and offering it for free. Anyone can download MySQL and use it for free. This is about reselling MySQL with a businesses product (i.e. the difference between openSuSE and Novell Open Enterprise Server (OES)).

My company uses MySQL for internal use, but we use the free version. If my company were to make a software package that included MySQL and sold it, then that's a different story.

That makes sense now.

The thread is locked.

It shouldn't be locked.

Ugh. What a shame. Discussion on Front Page lasts only a few days before the thread is lost. It is the forums where meaningful discussions take place.

Neowin has never had a clear and consistent policy for FPN/BPN threads. Generally (but there are exceptions) if BPN is posted first, it is left open. Or if FPN is posted first, but BPN has a lively discussion, BPN is left open for discussion.

Oh well.

There's no need to have the same news twice, and since this has been posted first the forum thread has been closed.

That's not how things work here...

And where did you read that? Actually if the news posted on the BPN are older and/or posted after the Main Page ones they are closed, doesn't matter if it's about Tech, Software, games, etc

Can you please go on-topic? I'll unlock the thread only by the request of the author of it.

Last edited by EL1TE on 16 Jan 2008 - 15:43

yeah, that is kinda how it has worked. Sort of.

Like I posted before, it has just never been clear or consistent.

Erm... no, they don't. Unless you're trying to start a new fad; read what Mark said. Open discussion in a proper thread is important. I never saw threads getting blocked until now.

Last edited by tiagosilva29 on 16 Jan 2008 - 15:46

Yes, it does happen, and has happened like this for many years.

I support EL1TE's right to close threads. Even if I disagree with it (strongly).

Done deal.

Ok guys i'll open it, sorry them i've did it only because the other News Staff do the same.

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=613323
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=613036
(and more)

Sorry for your waste of time.

EL1TE, there isn't anything necessarily incorrect about locking that thread. You have done what has been done before. But it has also not been done before, and that is where there is a problem with consistency.

I think that back when I was on staff that it was discussed making FPN really just a regular forum thread, but just also specially displayed on the front page. This would allow it to be searched and found in the forums, like normal threads; be alive for as long as the material warrants, like normal threads; and be moderated by all staff, like normal threads.

This hasn't happened in many years, and likely takes quite a bit of coding (and testing!), so not sure if it will ever come to fruition.

I think that tiagosilva is of the same mind as me, supporting BPN discussion due to its longevity. I am glad that you didn't seem be taking it as a personal critique.

The problem is that i've did what the other News Poster did, since i was following it because it maybe was a rule, and in fact is, but actually there's no need to lock it because of the longevity of the forum threads (like you said).

Of course i didn't take as a personal critique, actually critics can be used to make things better!

Nothing personal man, but it's rarely followed, because BPN is the place for discussion.

(Agora um bocadinho em português, para desenferrujar: essa regra não é bem regra... raramente é usada. Não estamos falar de uma pequeno update de software, é algo forte e que pode reproduzir efeitos pesados a nível empresarial.
Na BPN tens [normalmente] uma conversa coesa sobre o assunto. Aqui é trolhada a forte e feio, porque são exibicionistas, e o mundo inteiro está a ler o que escreves na FPN, ou quase! Por isso é que existe quase sempre uma ligação para discussão na BPN... Não é mesmo nada pessoal.)

lol, sim é verdade, e como disse não volta a acontecer, a não ser que já tenha sido postado nas BPN.

lol, yes it's true, and as i said it won't happen again, unless it has already been posted on the BPN.

OpenOffice doesn't needs Java, except in some components. I really don't know how you could javatise(?) a database system.
This is probably going to be useful for extend enterprise Java, other than that... your call.

I'm not sure but I don't believe that mySQL has a built in coding/scripting system like the more established and advanced Database systems do. such as PL/SQL for Oracle.

I don't see anything bad about Sun adding Java fucntionality to mySQL similar to PL/SQL. JSQL or something perhaps

Not really. 1B for MySQL seems to be over valued.

It looks like Sun is aiming to take back some of the enterprise market that it lost to the .Net/SQL Server technologies. IMO they'll need to do more than integrate a (kick-ass) database with glassfish to do that...