Is Microsoft trying to thwart DVD-ripping on PCs using Windows Vista with the new beta of Vista Service Pack 1? As I tested the public beta release of Vista SP1, I noticed the update crippled a popular DVD cracking program called DVD43. DVD43 is a free utility that disables a DVD's Content Scramble System (CSS) copy protection technology. Once a DVD's copy protection is disabled, you can copy its content using one of several third-party programs. You may be using DVD43 and not realize it, because it often is the engine of other ripping programs.
When I updated my Windows Vista operating system with the beta of Vista SP1, DVD43 wouldn't load. Instead, I saw an error message about a missing driver--even after I uninstalled and then reinstalled DVD43. A colleague of mine had a similar experience on a PC that also had been updated with the latest beta release of Vista SP1. Stripping DVD copy protection (CSS) from a DVD is illegal but many people do it.
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When I updated my Windows Vista operating system with the beta of Vista SP1, DVD43 wouldn't load. Instead, I saw an error message about a missing driver--even after I uninstalled and then reinstalled DVD43. A colleague of mine had a similar experience on a PC that also had been updated with the latest beta release of Vista SP1. Stripping DVD copy protection (CSS) from a DVD is illegal but many people do it.
View: Full Story @ PC World Blog
...NOT "OMG M$ is trying to hax0r my DVD ripz!"
Me neither.. just tried it with SP1 Refresh and it works fine. Haha!
It's a shame that sites like Neowin link to these people (especially when it's easy to see how wrong and baseless their claims are).
Last edited by Brandon Live on 20 Jan 2008 - 00:22
Oh right, it's Steven Parker vigorously pushing his anti-Vista agenda again. Seriously, somebody get this guy a real job.
XP
ReactOS, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, BeOS, FreeDOS... There are quite a few operating systems that aren't even Windows, Mac or Linux.
I won't even get into things like IBM's AIX operating system...
Including Steven Parker, apparently. Good job outing yourself dipstick.
Including Steven Parker, apparently. Good job outing yourself dipstick.
Actually, the author of the article just outed himself.
Lets split hairs shall we??
I have the retail version of the DVD in my hand..... can I really strip the copy protection from it? No.. it's pressed into the DVD and thus completely un-removable.
Now.. the copy protection is meant to keep it from being copied, to keep us from making a legitimate back up of our purchased media. (as well as it's respected initial purpose)
As "lame" as some of you point out Steve being, I'll stand right next to him and announce that I make backups of our movie library constantly... specially seeing as our youngest goes thru the backups at a decent rate. They get scratched, or chipped and I will not spend more money buying duplicate copies of the retail DVDs. I make legitimate purchases, and stand beside those that want change so we can make legal backups.
Not gonna happen with all you cowering in the corner.... making your's in the dark.
Lets split hairs shall we??
I have the retail version of the DVD in my hand..... can I really strip the copy protection from it? No.. it's pressed into the DVD and thus completely un-removable.
Now.. the copy protection is meant to keep it from being copied, to keep us from making a legitimate back up of our purchased media. (as well as it's respected initial purpose)
As "lame" as some of you point out Steve being, I'll stand right next to him and announce that I make backups of our movie library constantly... specially seeing as our youngest goes thru the backups at a decent rate. They get scratched, or chipped and I will not spend more money buying duplicate copies of the retail DVDs. I make legitimate purchases, and stand beside those that want change so we can make legal backups.
Not gonna happen with all you cowering in the corner.... making your's in the dark.
Steve did not write the article. It's a news reference from a PC World blog.
Because some guy is too stupid to realize that just because SP1 broke A SINGLE ripping app, that doesn't mean there's a conspiracy?
"MICROSOFT IS BLOCKING TORRENTS. WITH NEW SERVICEPACK MY APPLICATION XYZ DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE!"
Give us a break.
"MICROSOFT IS BLOCKING TORRENTS. WITH NEW SERVICEPACK MY APPLICATION XYZ DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE!"
Give us a break.
What!? When!? How!?
"MICROSOFT IS BLOCKING TORRENTS. WITH NEW SERVICEPACK MY APPLICATION XYZ DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE!"
Give us a break.
What!? When!? How!?
he was being sarcastic
That was just daniel_rh outing himself as a vegetable.
Indeed they should.
You did not need to say anymore after that
The software in question is incompatible with vista sp1, vista sp1 does not in any way limit this type of functionality.
Please dont post this as news.
Last edited by ozzieXP on 19 Jan 2008 - 15:54
What is it that they call false information spread by some type of media outlet? Propaganda?
Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.
Either the program needs updating or there is a bug in SP1.
Kind Regards
Simon
> saw an error message about a missing driver--even after I uninstalled and then reinstalled DVD43.
Wouldn't be the first time an OS update breaks something that some third-party program relies on.
But what do I know, it's more fun to spread these wild conspiracy theories.
Get a life.... I really mean it. Or learn to use and configure your system properly.
(and don't forget the terms of agreement on using beta/non-final software or updates).
In our lab, DVD43 works properly with Vista SP1 (all SP1 builds to date).
I am sure there is some circumstance that would cause it to stop working or not work, but the idiot writing the article is really 'leaping' to conclusions by accusing MS of purposely causing one piece of software to not work, especially when DVD43 is NOT the only application like this.
The author needs to freaking reinstall DVD43 or find out what he 'feked' up and stop going on a witch hunt when the facts don't even support his initial conspiracy theory attempt.
DVD43 is a 32bit only application, so a lot of Vista users (64bit) are using something else already. This program does not strive to be fully compatible with Vista, and is just one of SEVERAL products on the market that do the same exact thing. From AnyDVD to other products, if MS was trying to stop DVD ripping all of these applications would fail, not just DVD43 on one idiot's computer.
A Side note... Microsoft actucally SUPPORTS DVD ripping, and it was originally a planned feature of Vista to be able ot Rip your DVD collection to the system as you do CDs now. This feature was ONE of the reasons MS put its support behind HD-DVD because it allowed for its contents to be ripped from the original media, where blu-ray strictly forbids this in the licensing, so that with blu-ray the content HAS TO stay on the physical Disc and cannot be copied, ripped, or archived. HD-DVD actually allows for its contents to be archived to your Hard Drive and not kept just on the HD-DVD, even though they require the copy protection to remain in place.
The final thought on this, is the opening of DVD ripping in the eyes of the industry and the laws surrounding this, it is now more 'legal' to rip or archive your DVDs than it has ever been.
Anyway, this whole article is crap, the author needs to be flamed back to obscurity for shoving a stupid idea based on bad facts in an article like this.
"PC World blogger admits to illegally ripping DVDs"
"Vista forces PC World blogger to admit illegally ripping DVDs"
Remember, Neowin Journalism rule #1: never blame anyone or anything else if you can place the blame on Vista.
I'm sure you could have worked a terrorism reference in there somehow.
What, and pre-empt an upcoming article? Fat chance! We're saving the "Vista Helps Terrorists Win" article for the next couple of days. Don't worry, Steven Parker and I have a plan to do and say anything to sink Vista...be patient.
I'm sure you could have worked a terrorism reference in there somehow.
hehe...
As well as the all loved american First Amendment.
"PC-world employed goes to jail after VISTA SP1 forced him to reveal his illegal DVD ripping;
It says so in the First Amendment, it's my right to rip dvd's, i'm not going to jail, this is a conspiracy
that Osama Bin Laden is behind!"
(ok, it's maybe not all that funny, and maybe somewhat over the line...but still:p)
Get a Grip Neowin...
With updates comes compability problems, can remember when service pack 2 broke my sound card driver (XP),
maybe that was because microsoft did'nt want me to hear sounds in xpsp2? :p
this sounds like theinquirer.net-like news:p
PS:
Testet anydvd for fun on latest vista sp1, just to see if there was any trouth in this...
nope,works right out of the box:p
maybe the two at PC-world had the same computer (same brand,same model), and there were other
drivers/applications in combination with SP1 that broke DVD43.
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