Shift Linux 0.6 Released

#1 Kreuger on 26 Jan 2008 - 16:38

The KDE release seemed pretty good. Grabbing the Lite version now (great speeds on the torrents too!)

#2 Barney on 26 Jan 2008 - 17:56

If anyone can post some screen shots, we'd greatly appreciate it!

(4 replies) #3 bugnu on 26 Jan 2008 - 17:59

Hmm..
Well, I see no reason to use this instead of Ubuntu or Fedora, or hell any number of polished and refined distros out there. Hell I failed to see the reason a neowin distro was needed to be created way back in the start. No offense but I always saw it as Neowin sneaky way trying to boost it's userbase or it's ego for the reason this was created. I applaud the devs who work fruitlessly on the project trying to move development forward, but not the project or the distro, maybe if the is some kind of compelling features or something that sets it apart or makes it better then what others are doing, but right now that is NOT the case. Please GIVE a REASON for this the EXIST, other then "yeah we got a distro too!" that it is now.

#3.1 Barney on 26 Jan 2008 - 18:18

We've answered this question over and over again. The Shift Linux project was started as a way to bring the Linux community together to have a project that hobbyists and enthusiasts could join in with others to learn and work with Linux. It is intended as a community effort and we have worked it as such. The distro is totally beside the point. As we have evolved, the actual distribution has been picked up by many websites and groups,. We have moved up the scale on popular distributions. That being said, the group remains committed to working together and helping others who wish to try their hand at this initiative.

We also posted our reasons for creating Shift Linux here: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=611650

If you do not like what we do, then move on. We only want to offer the fruits of our hard work. It has nothing to do with increasing our membership.

Last edited by Barney on 26 Jan 2008 - 18:23

#3.2 markjensen on 26 Jan 2008 - 19:31

bugnu doesn't seem to be one to be constructive in much of any discussion.

His posts in FPN are either negative and hostile or just plain insulting.

#3.3 simon360 on 26 Jan 2008 - 21:40

In addition to Barney's points, this release is a starting point for us, the rebirth of Shift Linux if you will. There's nothing revolutionary in 0.6, it's mostly evolutionary, but we have big plans for Shift 0.7, which is where we're going to make drastic changes to the way our distribution works, with custom apps, beautiful theming everywhere you look, and convenient little touches for the user.

When we're done with our series of 0.7 releases, that's when we really want people to take a look at the distro and look at what we can do when we go beyond what the tools can simply provide for us; we'll be making tools that other people will want to use (maybe even distributions like Ubuntu and Fedora).

#3.4 cork1958 on 04 Feb 2008 - 01:10

(Barney said @ #3.1)

We've answered this question over and over again. The Shift Linux project was started as a way to bring the Linux community together to have a project that hobbyists and enthusiasts could join in with others to learn and work with Linux. It is intended as a community effort and we have worked it as such. The distro is totally beside the point. As we have evolved, the actual distribution has been picked up by many websites and groups,. We have moved up the scale on popular distributions. That being said, the group remains committed to working together and helping others who wish to try their hand at this initiative.

We also posted our reasons for creating Shift Linux here: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=611650

If you do not like what we do, then move on. We only want to offer the fruits of our hard work. It has nothing to do with increasing our membership.

"The Shift Linux project was started as a way to bring the Linux community together to have a project that hobbyists and enthusiasts could join in with others to learn and work with Linux. It is intended as a community effort and we have worked it as such."

And that is different than any other Linux distro? Not hardly.
I can almost understand why the person you're replying to feels this way.

The ONE goal that Linux creators SHOULD have, is to develop a SINGLE distro that JUST WORKS!! I bet no one in the world knows how many distros there are floating around anymore?

#4 Joseph21 on 26 Jan 2008 - 18:03

they just work on one...

#5 Avi on 26 Jan 2008 - 18:06

Kernel Version?
GNOME Version?
KDE Version?

#6 rage710 on 26 Jan 2008 - 18:30

Downloading the gnome version now. Nice speeds. ~~490 down~~ 900 down, 48 up.

Ill seed while after I go to work too.

Last edited by rage710 on 26 Jan 2008 - 18:37

#7 Kreuger on 26 Jan 2008 - 18:59

I'm working on screenshots. I've been doing them for the XFCE (lite) version. Just waiting on the installer to finish and then I will upload and link them.

Edit: Screenshots are done and uploaded to the art section of the Shift site. http://www.shiftlinux.net/art/list/13/date/

Last edited by DaveLegg on 26 Jan 2008 - 20:12

#8 DaveLegg on 26 Jan 2008 - 20:14

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#9 James7 on 26 Jan 2008 - 22:21

Great work guys, this is looking good!

#10 Zirus on 27 Jan 2008 - 06:11

Doesn't work very well in VMWare...

(5 replies) #11 Icemann on 27 Jan 2008 - 12:54

Hi All Developers,
There is one thing that Linux is lacking in.
The friendly interface of installing COLDFUSION. I understand that RedHat Linux caters for this and there are ways to hack other linux versions to handle ColdFusion. BUT Those are Hacks. Only if one is a developer and hard-coder or terminal user will understand how to easily hack the CF installation.

If there is anything that will set THIS Linux version ( Shift Linux ) apart from the rest would be to add these few things (in order of priority)
1: The smooth friendly way for installing ColdFusion Server (versions 6 to 8 ).
2: The smooth friendly way to setup Apache to handle ASP Pages.
3: A nice program similar to Dreamweaver (not too complicated but color code friendly) that can cater for PHP, CFM, ASP, JAVASCRIPT, CSS etc.. (Its a job to do but slowly slowly and global developers helping will surely get somewhere)

(I know "Why ASP on linux?" Well not everybody can afford Windows Servers especially Hosting etc.. So what better way to Code ASP for clients than to have your own server at home ( Shift Linux ) Running server software that handle ASP).

I dont know if there are these programs about but surely I cannot get CF server on my Fedora Box even with some tutorials. Also if these programs are created then setup a donation fund for them and create an upgrade license for a fee. Linux is free but the work that one does to create programs..you need coffee, beer, sandwiches, toilet paper etc.. so there must be a reward for the time spent.. eh?

Thankyou for reading my rant..

Last edited by Icemann on 27 Jan 2008 - 21:08

#11.1 Kreuger on 27 Jan 2008 - 14:17

Well I've found a few tutorials for how to set it up in Ubuntu so it would probably work with Shift too. I'm just not sure how to include it in the distro and to set up the configuration so that you can use it out of the box. All I can figure is that we could link to a download and provide the best working tutorial to help you set it up. Maybe someone else would have a better idea?

#11.2 DaveLegg on 27 Jan 2008 - 14:39

I personally don't see ColdFusion as something our average user would be that interested in running, sure there are a few developers in the community, but how many of them use ColdFusion as their main language?

#11.3 Kreuger on 27 Jan 2008 - 15:37

(DaveLegg said @ #11.2)

I personally don't see ColdFusion as something our average user would be that interested in running, sure there are a few developers in the community, but how many of them use ColdFusion as their main language?

Well since most distros have their own server version, why can't we? For those who want it I'd be willing to work on it to appease them. If I'm the only one, it could be a problem but maybe some others would help? Although I see your point. I just want to hopefully be able to appeal to more people.

#11.4 simon360 on 27 Jan 2008 - 21:18

(Kreuger said @ #11.3)

Well since most distros have their own server version, why can't we? For those who want it I'd be willing to work on it to appease them. If I'm the only one, it could be a problem but maybe some others would help? Although I see your point. I just want to hopefully be able to appeal to more people.

I don't think we need to worry about a server version yet, since we still need more developers for our other 2 editions (which will soon be on SVN, hopefully).

#11.5 Digix on 28 Jan 2008 - 13:00

Dude, seriously, wtf, coldfusion...

(3 replies) #12 DaveLegg on 27 Jan 2008 - 18:27

The KDE release is now up on the site.

#12.1 Avi on 28 Jan 2008 - 00:10

Is it based on KDE 4?

#12.2 Barney on 28 Jan 2008 - 03:06

(Avi said @ #12.1)

Is it based on KDE 4?

It is

#12.3 Kreuger on 28 Jan 2008 - 16:21

I have uploaded a few screenshots to the site as well

#13 Barney on 28 Jan 2008 - 11:16

And another fine entry on Distrowatch.

(1 reply) #14 Pippin666 on 29 Jan 2008 - 20:35

There is so many more complete distro to use before this one man,... What a waste of time for you guys !

Pip'

#14.1 +CrimsonRedMk on 17 Feb 2008 - 16:13

Why don't we all use DOS, I mean it has file tools, text tools, and can even display images. We can browse the web and send email if needed too!

#15 ACTIONpack on 06 Mar 2008 - 20:34

The OS takes me back to 2001 when XP came out. Good Job.

#16 terrina on 15 Feb 2009 - 17:19

Hi All Developers,
There is one thing that Linux is lacking in.
The friendly interface of installing COLDFUSION. I understand that RedHat Linux caters for this and there are ways to hack other linux versions to handle ColdFusion. BUT Those are Hacks. Only if one is a developer and hard-coder or terminal user will understand how to easily hack the CF installation.

If there is anything that will set THIS Linux version ( Shift Linux ) apart from the rest would be to add these few things (in order of priority)
1: The smooth friendly way for installing ColdFusion Server (versions 6 to 8 ).
2: The smooth friendly way to setup Apache to handle ASP Pages.
3: A nice program similar to Dreamweaver (not too complicated but color code friendly) that can cater for PHP, CFM, ASP, JAVASCRIPT, CSS etc.. (Its a job to do but slowly slowly and global developers helping will surely get somewhere)

(I know "Why ASP on linux?" Well not everybody can afford Windows Servers especially Hosting etc.. So what better way to Code ASP for clients than to have your own server at home ( Shift Linux ) Running server software that handle ASP).

I dont know if there are these programs about but surely I cannot get CF server on my Fedora Box even with some tutorials. Also if these programs are created then setup a donation fund for them and create an upgrade license for a fee. Linux is free but the work that one does to create programs..you need coffee, beer, sandwiches, toilet paper etc.. so there must be a reward for the time spent.. eh?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
terrina
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#17 terrina on 15 Feb 2009 - 17:20

There is one thing that Linux is lacking in.
The friendly interface of installing COLDFUSION. I understand that RedHat Linux caters for this and there are ways to hack other linux versions to handle ColdFusion. BUT Those are Hacks. Only if one is a developer and hard-coder or terminal user will understand how to easily hack the CF installation.

If there is anything that will set THIS Linux version ( Shift Linux ) apart from the rest would be to add these few things (in order of priority)
1: The smooth friendly way for installing ColdFusion Server (versions 6 to 8 ).
2: The smooth friendly way to setup Apache to handle ASP Pages.
3: A nice program similar to Dreamweaver (not too complicated but color code friendly) that can cater for PHP, CFM, ASP, JAVASCRIPT, CSS etc.. (Its a job to do but slowly slowly and global developers helping will surely get somewhere)

(I know "Why ASP on linux?" Well not everybody can afford Windows Servers especially Hosting etc.. So what better way to Code ASP for clients than to have your own server at home ( Shift Linux ) Running server software that handle ASP).

I dont know if there are these programs about but surely I cannot get CF server on my Fedora Box even with some tutorials. Also if these programs are created then setup a donation fund for them and create an upgrade license for a fee. Linux is free but the work that one does to create programs..you need coffee, beer, sandwiches, toilet paper etc.. so there must be a reward for the time spent.. eh?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
terrina
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