The music industry has said that while it has started making money from music downloading, more than 90 percent of downloaded music is illegal. The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry, or IFPI, said record companies' revenue from digital music sales rose 40 per cent to US$2.9 billion over the past year. This growth is not covering losses from collapse of international CD sales, the music industry's global trade body said.
CD sales fell 11 percent between 2005 and 2006, and were likely to drop further in 2007. Unfortunately, the music industry has been known to inflate the impact of music piracy to almost comedic proportions to plead its cause.
News source: Fudzilla
I prefer to have a physical product.
They never stopped making money. But I don't advocate piracy. It is your obligation to pay for a product if you can afford it. If you can't... well, if you've got a fast ship and a good crew, you can become king of the seas!
(I admit, I once pirated that album. I did pay $30 to see them live, so I figure it's a fair trade?)
cause if they continue this suing crap, it gives people even more reason to be a part of that "90 percent" lol. and lets face it, vast majority of music aint worth "buying" anyways... some is, but not much.
I say, they're still not losing enough money. They need to lose more.
Also, the vast majority of my downloaded music is stuff i already own, since it's quicker to download a copy of my CD than it is to rip it myself (at the same high standards most 'scene' rips are done at). Also, it means i don't stress my CD through a rip.
Another thing, buying direct from an artist is something i am doing more and more now, so these purchases aren't included in IFPI and RIAA statistics.
Anyway, my morals are intact, i know i'm not ripping artists off, and that is good enough for me, no matter what industry members claim.
same calculator that the MPAA used ...
If music was being stolen that much ... most record companies be out of business ...
I still prefer buying CDs in stores ... and playing them on my stereo
I still own a turntable an play LPs too ... hard to find, but they are making a come back
RIAA ... go back to school an take a few math courses ... you need to learn to add better ..
I agree, from other reports I've seen, sure the music industry is crippled and has lost maybe a dozen percent or so in revenue the past few years of P2P (which is, yes, quite a bit even at that), but sure not anything near those numbers. In that case, they have to make an absolutely gigantic revenue from live performances, MTV deals, etc. to maintain that revenue, and that kind of revenue additionally need to have increased extremely much the past few years to hide the piracy in their revenue statistics (which do not speak of anything near even 40% losses). Which I somehow doubt... Occam's Razor and all that.
You mean like detailed ID3s? I strictly tag mine so the only fields there are: Title, Artist, Album, Track, Year, Genre. Nothing else!!
I lol'd xD ...
and about the tags .... MP3tag FTW !!
and about the tags .... MP3tag FTW !!
+1
You spend 12-20 dollars for a CD, 1-2 good songs, the rest are crap.
Personally I download albums to listen to them and buy on CD the ones that I like. I have bought plenty of albums this way that I wouldn't have otherwise bought. I'm under no illusion that downloading music I don't own is allowed and don't try to delude myself otherwise.
To not waste as much money on said crap, but just to get a taste for it and hear if it's anything to have?
Also note that these statistics say nothing about how much of that pirated music is actually kept by the pirates.
Or how much of that music they would spend money on if piracy didn't exist.
Actually, that number is probably not even correct and just an estimate to explain to their shareholders why the music industry (at least the non-digital forms of distribution) is starting to turn into an "epic fail". :-p
cause if people's so called "stealing of music" actually took someone from a fairly rich state to a medium to poor side than that would be a MUCH different story then vs someone who's sick rich to just rich which no one cares about besides MPAA/RIAA etc lol
Last edited by ThaCrip on 27 Jan 2008 - 13:29
The fact of the law is that if you can't afford something, or don't want to buy it, you don't have a right to just take it anyway, even if it's a copy and doesn't physically cost anything to get hold of. The RIAA / MPAA may be handling things VERY badly but their function is to get money for the people that have contributed to a piece of work. If an artist is popular then that artist and/or the label should make a lot of money whether you think they are too rich or not. If you don't want people to make too much money then vote socialist for redistribution of wealth through high taxation of the highest earners - if you don't want that then put up and shut up.
Obviously their music sucks, therefore they need to find alternative careers.
Yes, in my opinion, it is alright to pirate Windows because Bill Gates has amassed a wealth of USD $35 billion. What is he going to do with the majority of this wealth ? Give it back to us -- the poor i.e. charity. Why take it from us to begin with ?
Don't compare digital goods to physical goods. Digital goods can be reproduced without any cost.
Hell yeah, rape those rich bastards! Where do I vote socialist?
One does not plead a cause. One pleads a case or promotes a cause.
So there you have it! Another useful tip from the Grammar Nazi!
Anyway . . . is it just me, or did anyone else at first glance read that as The International Federation of the Pornographic Industry?
Anyway . . . is it just me, or did anyone else at first glance read that as The International Federation of the Pornographic Industry?
Well, what I think they should do probably would be considered pornographic.
Anyway . . . is it just me, or did anyone else at first glance read that as The International Federation of the Pornographic Industry?
LOL! me too!
Anyway . . . is it just me, or did anyone else at first glance read that as The International Federation of the Pornographic Industry?
that is the ONLY thing I thought of, and was JUST coming to post that. lmao
Expected_ Revenue - CD_Revenue - Legal_Download_Revenue = Revenue_Loss_To_Piracy
They just have to explain something to their stockholders.
So even yet, some artist are rich.
So even yet, some artist are rich.
That's because they make their money from touring, music videos, sponsorships, merchandising, and raping and pillaging.
So they're saying while they are making money from downloads, yet 90% of the download is still illegal? Sounds like they're selling illegal downloads!
If anything, it's an estimate at best.
They probably mean to say that 90% of downloaded music is not from a digital music store. But just because it's not from iTunes doesn't mean it's illegal.
At worst, downloading an album I've already paid for is a legal grey area.
That is not to say that the estimate is wrong, it could be more or less... I'm only questioning the math.
Peace,
James Rose
New York City
Because losslessly encoded pirated music is somehow worse quality than DRM encumbered, lossy, music from iTunes?
'I want it all whaaaaaaaaa!'
Apparently not so outrageous, as there was that part about them raking in billions on online sales.
But yet they still scream "more more more me me me now now now!"
Before they sold 10.... now they sell 10 and another 9 probably get stolen. Not, now they sell 1 and 9 of the original 10 get stolen.
the barrier to steal and to share is just not there...technology is their worse enemy!
Even if people didn't want to steal what should they do?
Most people have multple devices for playing their music (computer, car CD player, MP3 player...and so)
I want to play my legally bought music on any of my devices whenever I want..am I suppose to carry around every CD that I own?
simple ease of use points out how much trouble they have and will have going forward...
1 person's ability to play his legally bought music points out the problem with the music industry
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