NeowinCAST News Edition for February 7th, 2008

NeowinCAST News Edition for February 7th, 2008

bangbang023 on 08 February 2008 - 18:48 · 13 comments & 27147 views

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Neowin.net presents the NeowinCAST News Edition for the week of January 30th, 2008. This week, Christopher Vendemio (bangbang023) and Rob Wright (Rob) discuss the following topics:

Microsoft offers to buy Yahoo! (read)
Companies helping customers downgrade from Vista to XP (read)
Microsoft delaying Vista SP1 due to driver concerns (read)
Opera Mobile 9.5 shown off (read)
16GB iPhone and 32GB iPod Touch released (read)

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#1 +M2Ys4U on 08 Feb 2008 - 19:11

I agree with you, Chris, Downgrading from Vista to XP makes no sense to me. I bought a new laptop and Vista runs perfectly fine on it, especially with SP1 coming which should improve things.

(3 replies) #2 Borbus on 09 Feb 2008 - 01:20

But you guys are forgetting that there actually ARE things wrong with Vista. The DRM, the UAC thing, the pointless graphics (ok, I use compiz-fusion, but it is pointless and a lot of people don't like pointless things), the insecurity...

#2.1 bangbang023 on 09 Feb 2008 - 01:31

The DRM is urban legend, especially in the way people talk about it. As for security? In it's first year, Vista had fewer discovered vulnerabilities than any other OS in the first year.

#2.2 +M2Ys4U on 09 Feb 2008 - 14:46

People don't give the UAC a chance. sure it pops up while you're getting the comp the way you like it, but when you stop tweaking settings and installing programs you hardly ever see it.

#2.3 Borbus on 09 Feb 2008 - 22:21

UAC is basically Microsoft's attempt to implement something like sudo, except it works the other way around, instead of allowing normal users to gain root privileges, it stops root having root privileges. I've never actually used it so I really don't know how annoying it is but how many linux users do you hear complaining about how annoying gksudo is? I think it's because the linux users know gksudo has a use but UAC is just a hack.

#3 Insanor on 09 Feb 2008 - 13:10

About the customers downgrading from Vista to XP, I myself agree with Chris. I simply don't have any reason why I would downgrade to XP - i'm used to Vista now and I love it. However, I agree with Rob too as several of my family members and some people I know just don't want to upgrade because they are used to their operating system - it works for them and does everything they want to do on it.

Ps. I love the show, great topics this this week.

Rob's voice is awesome!

#4 Lt-DavidW on 09 Feb 2008 - 13:43

To answer your question - Yes, I would download the confirmed SP1 from a reputable torrent site. How can you equate getting SP1 early to piracy when I have Vista Ultimate?
I'll pay the consequences for any "bundled viruses", but seriously you guys worry too much. All it takes is a little common sense.

#5 Neobond on 09 Feb 2008 - 13:57

Another great NeowinCAST!

#6 Anaron on 09 Feb 2008 - 20:10

Very interesting. This is the first time I listened to a NeowinCAST. Good job guys.

(1 reply) #7 cullend11 on 10 Feb 2008 - 04:08

Hey, out of curiosity, whe was the 216 number chosen -- I just recognize it as a cuyahoga/ lorain country number in Ohio.

#7.1 bangbang023 on 10 Feb 2008 - 16:37

Just a number available to us. It really has no meaning or other reason to it.

#8 whistlerxp on 12 Feb 2008 - 00:33

Hey guys, I heard this theory a while back and from what I see from the students around me it definitely seems to be the case that people have heard all this negative stuff about Windows Vista from the media and others and whenever they encounter a problem (as we all do from time to time) they instantly associate it with what they see infront of them that they've heard negative things about, Windows Vista.

Whenever one of my friends here at uni explains a problem they have on their laptop, they follow it up with a downcast "it's vista" - these are mostly girls (probably not too techy) with new laptops, so it really does not surprise me that people who have just normal issues with their computers blame them on Vista and would be willing to downgrade to XP in the hope the issues they had are gone.

Hope that helps, it's really interesting thanks for the podcast.

whistlerxp:mac.

#9 sibot on 13 Feb 2008 - 06:50

i think the move of downgrading Vista to XP would be much welcomed. Since it saves costs of upgrading softwares and provides much better performance. One of the reasons I haven't turned to Vista. Newer is not always better. Microsoft needs to work really hard on Windows Seven to make it the successor to stay.

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