Is Toshiba about to fall on its sword and announce the demise of HD DVD? That's certainly what one report citing an unnamed mole within the HD DVD camp is claiming, even though Toshiba itself - surprise, surprise - is having none of it. The source mentioned by US Home Media Magazine claims that Toshiba could declare HD DVD dead in "a matter of weeks".
The mag also spoke to a senior Toshiba staffer - Jodi Sally, VP of marketing for Toshiba America Consumer Products - who re-iterated the company's belief that HD DVD "is the best format for consumers". However, she did admit that Toshiba is monitoring the market. "Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of our recent price reductions on all HD DVD players."
The mag also spoke to a senior Toshiba staffer - Jodi Sally, VP of marketing for Toshiba America Consumer Products - who re-iterated the company's belief that HD DVD "is the best format for consumers". However, she did admit that Toshiba is monitoring the market. "Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of our recent price reductions on all HD DVD players."
















HDI is just miles better than the bloated java code found on BDs which actually *needs* Cell to run at a good speed. HD also offers more features than BD and is a spec that's actually complete and compatible with all players.
While I traded in my HDDVD player/movies for a PS3 and BD's, I certainly notice the difference and to me seemed like a downgrade.
BD uses the same software technology as HDDVD
BD uses the same software technology as HDDVD
BD does not use the same software technology as HD-DVD BD uses Java based programming software while HD-DVD uses Microsft xaml and some WPF. now as for features HD-DVd has Dual tuner PIP abilities networking internet abilities witch have been put to good use ad offering more interaction and some cool stuff. BD does not offer as of yet anything comparable for hardware features except the PS3 witch may or may not go full 2.0 spec but mirly spec 1.1 witch it is now and at the same time no BD film offers anything for spec 1.1 features. HD-DVD has been and has had those features since day 1 and the software in witch it is all run by is far more light weight and more configurable.
BD setop box Pros: great picture quality great sound good movie selection Might be the sole Format war winner
BD setup box Cons: No spec 1.1 titles and limited to 1 player on market as of right now with full spec 1.1 hardware. no spec 2.0 hardware no software for spec 2.0. no upgradeable firmware and or hardware DonusView and internet stuff needs brand new hardware
PS3 Pros: Spec 2.0 Possible same as above on pros but game system and media center stuff
PS3 BD Cons: Spec 1.1 only confirmed Firmware upgradeable to Spec 2.0 for more features possibly but not confirmed by sony
HD-DVD Pros: Great picture quality great sound decent good movie selection finalized Spec many movies combining both PiP features and internet features for great more robust interactivity well designed software layer Firmware upgradeable for future software features.
Last edited by notuptome2004 on 15 Feb 2008 - 13:34
I can see you repeat that over and over again in your post.. do your research..there ARE 1.1 titles out. Resident Evil 3 for example.
The PS3 can be updated by Sony to 2.2 anytime they feel like it. There is no need for 2.2 now since no 2.2 titles are out yet
Don't be such a news source nazi
I can see you repeat that over and over again in your post.. do your research..there ARE 1.1 titles out. Resident Evil 3 for example.
The PS3 can be updated by Sony to 2.2 anytime they feel like it. There is no need for 2.2 now since no 2.2 titles are out yet
ok so 1 movie ok that is fine and it wont be 2.2 spec it be 2.0 and as of right now sony has no plans they siad 1.1 is all they may do for the PS3 as it is first and foremost a game console
BD uses the same software technology as HDDVD
I meant in terms of movie experience, not hardware specifically. HD just had more features, responded a lot better, the colour pallet and reproduction was more vivid (even on dual format movies) and blacks were more realistic. The menus were a lot nicer, as well.
A good friend of mine works for a company who design media interfaces for Warner, and he has told me that writing HDI was a lot simpler, was able to produce better results and was a lot nicer to work with than the Java code they use on BD. The majority of their time was spent optimizing it to try and get the time from disk-in to movie playing under 1:50 .
love the gif
on-topic though - We can finally give up this silly format war and concentrate on getting the software prices down (before anyone posts a reply, HDDVD and BD prices are the same in Europe)
I can just hear the Sony board " We'll get our revenge and money back for Betamax, MiniDisk etc. now"
I can just hear the Sony board " We'll get our revenge and money back for Betamax, MiniDisk etc. now"
the BDA is a large consortium, it may be technology sony developed, but its up to the consortium to decide the pricing factors
I can just hear the Sony board " We'll get our revenge and money back for Betamax, MiniDisk etc. now"
Exactly!!!, But it seems most of the fools here just don't get it. Maybe this will help.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c....u=sony_bull****
Rock on!!!
Too bad, competition is good for us consumers, considering the price. HD-DVD provided competition for Bluray,
when/if HD-DVD is gone from the marked, we probably will have a bluray-"monopoly". that would be bad.
Well, there is one difference, when DVD came out, there was only DVD. Now we have two formats in the fight.
If one was to fall, the other one could potentially drive the marked.
And i am talking hardware pricing, not the price of movies.
Sure prices will fall over time, but this could slow the process :/
Well, there is one difference, when DVD came out, there was only DVD. Now we have two formats in the fight.
If one was to fall, the other one could potentially drive the marked.
And i am talking hardware pricing, not the price of movies.
Sure prices will fall over time, but this could slow the process :/
you've already forgotten DVD- and DVD+?
Those were not movie formats though, and once burned they basically became a regular DVD. Plus it didn't even matter for very long as recorders could soon happily burn either type. Not really comparable to this.
Well, there is one difference, when DVD came out, there was only DVD. Now we have two formats in the fight.
If one was to fall, the other one could potentially drive the marked.
And i am talking hardware pricing, not the price of movies.
Sure prices will fall over time, but this could slow the process :/
Nope, cos again manufacturers will compete against themselves which will bring down prices over time. Multiple formats bring nothing but confusion. Just like Betamax and VHS in fact.
Those were not movie formats though, and once burned they basically became a regular DVD. Plus it didn't even matter for very long as recorders could soon happily burn either type. Not really comparable to this.
But DIVX was a competitor, and was the one that movie studios favoured.
Toshiba probably won't be able to pull the plug until paramount and universal quit HDDVD.
What do moles know about technology? At least wait to see if the groundhog sees his shadow or something.
LOL That's so amateur and misleading and just ruined the whole article. So they couldn't figure out but had to have a VP in marketing admitting that they're doing market research. LMAO The comment couldn't be more neutral and they had to word it as it Toshiba is losing confidence when the VP were simply stating her job description. Simply amusing.
But I'd kinda always seen this coming. Not technologies, but the media and uninformed who think they're getting information from reliable sources, will kill HD-DVD.
We can declare HD-DVD brain dead already. Dead-dead will be when Toshiba issues their own PR
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