Or, a lost sheep’s ongoing struggle to stay relevant in this internet age. Now don't get me wrong, I have always had quite a lot of respect for Chris Pirillo, but something happened when Microsoft talked up Longhorn and eventually shipped Vista. Chris was enraged most of the time because the promise of "Longhorn 2003" never happened, and I think he probably feels that Microsoft cheated themselves, and him out of a worthwhile upgrade. Ever since, he hasn't involved himself in Microsoft (lab) events and has become quite outspoken against Windows Vista.
From John's AbsoluteVista Blog: In a post last week, on St. Valentine’s Day no less, Chris Pirillo states his 50 reasons to switch from Windows (any version?) to OS X.
After getting past his preamble about neutrality, he delivers his thoughts. Actually, we are supposed to take his thoughts as neutral since it is not a Windows bash. Furthermore, since in his opening statements he declared his relationships with some sponsors, we should take the product plugs as gospel. Feel free to ingest a grain/several grains of salt with his recommendations.
I have taken it upon myself to provide a public service by attempting to debunk some of the outright errors, factual errors, product plugs, and gross misconceptions in his beliefs.
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From John's AbsoluteVista Blog: In a post last week, on St. Valentine’s Day no less, Chris Pirillo states his 50 reasons to switch from Windows (any version?) to OS X.
After getting past his preamble about neutrality, he delivers his thoughts. Actually, we are supposed to take his thoughts as neutral since it is not a Windows bash. Furthermore, since in his opening statements he declared his relationships with some sponsors, we should take the product plugs as gospel. Feel free to ingest a grain/several grains of salt with his recommendations.
I have taken it upon myself to provide a public service by attempting to debunk some of the outright errors, factual errors, product plugs, and gross misconceptions in his beliefs.
















Very unprofessional, true but too bad its not better.
He states about VLC player but wait he compeltely forgets that its available for windows vista also.
There are a number of free vertualization products from Microsoft themselves plus the only thing stopping it from virtualizing every OS is APPLE.
I can also state the future of OSX is being virtualized in A Microsoft OS. See has just as much meritt as his reverse statement.
IF people are going to bash vista at least use it and ALL its features before comparing it to OSX.
In the enterprise, Windows rules, and Apple doesn't seem to care that much about businesses; iWork is not an Office replacement, and most IT dept. don't run XServe. When I use OSX at work, I still use Office 2008, even though I don't like it that much, and it lacks Access, but that's a business move by MS.
For home use, flip a coin - I use both, and I can do most of the same stuff with both - OSX is a bit more streamlined, but Windows has more software, more hardware selection, and better freeware. I also believe that OSX is a better OS than Windows, but Vista is pretty good too, and I use it everyday.
Is that even supposed to be a reason to switch? That's not even a point.
How many home users set up an FTP?
They also know how to charge more for the same hardware.
Because they are all expensive. I sincerely doubt you can pick up a full Mac setup (minus the monitor) for the same cheap windows machine. Windows machines can be as cheap as $400 without the monitor. Why spend $1300 when you can spend $400 for a computer? Some people don't care about having the fastest bestest most coolest computer.
So you buy an expensive computer, and then to get a lot of these "ultra-cool features", you pay a service charge forever? That's great!
With the amount of RAM available in machines today, I don't think that's a problem anymore.
That's not even a point. That's a plug for your sponsor. This a pretty bad list.
That's a matter of opinion, not fact. I don't need "iLife" or ".Mac" accounts.
You say mac users are not smug, but you yourself sound very smug.
That's the end of my rant.
Oh really? No way... I mean when i close the lid to my vista notebook, it doesn't fall asleep... I guess I need to switch to OSX now... [/sarcasm]
Oh really? No way... I mean when i close the lid to my vista notebook, it doesn't fall asleep... I guess I need to switch to OSX now... [/sarcasm]
Seriously is this guy an idiot? Has he ever looked at the power managment settings in windows? I can make a laptop go to sleep when the lid closes... but I don't want it to always wake up when I open it... so how is waking up on open a good thing? on the reverse why would I want it to go to sleep all the time when I close it?... I could come up with tons of arguments against his points...
Take a look at Wednesday's news. There's a link to a forum post as news, and the post has been rated 1 since it started days ago.
Are flame wars endorsed by Neowin now??
it lost its credibility of a news site a few months ago . it has become is a flame fest for teenagers
They had just better keep an eye on things before many of a crowd decide to pack up and go elsewhere.
The guy that wrote the 2nd article is every bit as biased as he claims Chris Pirillo is!
Person strongly disagrees with viewpoint: BIASED! UNPROFESSIONAL! FLAMEFEST!
Person strongly agrees with viewpoint: =) =) =)
Person agrees with viewpoint OR people who don't care: (crickets chirping on a quiet warm summer night)
Next time, leave the loser-itude at home and maybe your words will hold some sway.
No, I'm not a Mac-lover. I run a Vista/XP dual-boot setup at home and am as happy and stable as I could wish.
I cant believe some of the comments on his site... "good post, im switching now" wtf... are people that blind?
Huh, so does my Toshiba laptop with Vista :p
And that IS the case, 100% of the time, unless the battery is completely drained.
Last edited by morphen on 19 Feb 2008 - 16:48
People are just trying to get some money by introducing new people to their websites.
Examples:
1). He plugs the Mac to solutions for everyone who calls into his radio show with a Windows problem.
2). He insults Steve Gibson from Security Now and than proceeds to talk about the Mac (not on a Mac).
3). On Windows Weekly he talks about what Microsoft is doing wrong now and than they spend most of the show talking about cool new Apple products (seems more than a little forced on Paul's part).
Never mind his sex jokes about Micro-soft when referring to... well you know.
source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/twit
twit (twt)
tr.v. twit·ted, twit·ting, twits
To taunt, ridicule, or tease, especially for embarrassing mistakes or faults. See Synonyms at ridicule.
n.
1. The act or an instance of twitting.
2. A reproach, gibe, or taunt.
3. Slang A foolishly annoying person.
Leo's take:
TWiT = This Week in Tech Network
He is just happy with his new toy, an expensive toy but what else does he have to spend the money on? All he does is sit on camera all day long and get paid for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcPCeD9AVx4
That video really sums up his hypocrisy, unbiased my foot!
or Parker's work recently switched to Mac and this is Way of Venting so he don't get put on chopping block.
either way because FlameBait has been " News " for past week or 2, iv been looking at " News " Alternatives, i know i wont be missed, opposite likewise
Last edited by Hell-In-A-Handbasket on 19 Feb 2008 - 15:46
is neowin being sponsored by apple or something now
seriously get some real news
is neowin being sponsored by apple or something now
seriously get some real news
I thought neowin was being sponsored by microsoft as there was an article on mac fanboys being snobs
you can never win...
Why we are bombed with all those "Switch to linux", "swtich to mac os" ... come one I have enough of this sh*t !!!
I know 1000 more why I WANT to stick to my Windows: "Because it is perfect for me and I have 0 problems with it", why those stupid linux & macos users cannot accept my opinion and try to force me to take their opinion !
I would advice Neowin NoOSPoking policy
1- GAMES
you aren't really switching if you're gonna have every type of OS, it's kinda half hearted
I'm not nervous when i install a new app on Vista, because I'm not an idiot who would install a file which I have no idea what it is!
This next one in particular made me lol quite hard at how hes been ripped off on pcs big time:
bull****!
really now? last time I checked I didn't
these are just my opinions on some of his opinions so make of them what you will.
For OSX use the following
1. Quicktime (Obviously)
2. DivX (plays through Quicktime)
3. Flip4Mac (WMV through Quicktime)
4. Perian (every other codec played through Quicktime)
And if it plays through quicktime most other programs that use video can then also play the file
i guess that's just quicktime "just working"...
For OSX use the following
1. Quicktime (Obviously)
2. DivX (plays through Quicktime)
3. Flip4Mac (WMV through Quicktime)
4. Perian (every other codec played through Quicktime)
And if it plays through quicktime most other programs that use video can then also play the file
ANd don't forget to pay for Quicktime FullScreen
i guess that's just quicktime "just working"...
As with most things in life if you dont know what you are talking about then you shouldnt express an opinion.
1. You have to download the same codecs in Windows as you have to for OSX. Divx, Xvid, mvk etc... That way you can view all of the different video formats on the web, torrent sites, etc...
On Windows you get Windows Media Player and need to download everything else including Quicktime
On OSX you get Quicktime but have to download everything else including Flip4Mac (to play windows media)
2. Quicktime has a full screen option, for free, and Frontrow has always played fullscreen (using quicktime). In the past it didnt though, Quicktime is more than a player, its a video processing application which plugs into a host of other apps. So basically you were paying for a lot of extra functionality, licenses for encoding in certain codecs.
So whats the lesson.
1. In both Windows and OSX you have to download extra codecs to view all available video formats.
2. Both Apple and Microsoft have competing video players
3. Neither companies could distribute all of the available codecs due to licenses and other legalities
4. Certain neowin users need to check their facts
And the OEMs are all separate.
Nuf said
1. Vista
*cool*
50 reasons he switched from Windows to OS X.
An OS is only a matter of personal taste and functionnality needs. Somebody who need as much resources as possible won't turn over to a system that use some of these resources to make the OS more pretty and fancy.
I want an OS that does the job, and that does it efficiently and at the lowest cost possible.
50 reasons he switched from Windows to OS X.
An OS is only a matter of personal taste and functionnality needs. Somebody who need as much resources as possible won't turn over to a system that use some of these resources to make the OS more pretty and fancy.
I want an OS that does the job, and that does it efficiently and at the lowest cost possible.
Then that excludes the Mac. I don't need a $2000 machine to do something I can do on an $800 machine with similar specs.
Then that excludes the Mac. I don't need a $2000 machine to do something I can do on an $800 machine with similar specs.[/quote]
I'm a Mac user. I do think that you're quite right. Chris' blog could easily have gone down to 10 reasons .... but 10 easy points to counter for + Windows.
I'd say if I went back to Windows, I'd probably only use it for one program. There's a number of technical reasons to explain why OS X is better than Windows or vice versa. I've just found that with some 80+ apps (mostly freeware and a few games) my iMac runs w/o any problems ... compared to huge registry, glitches, freezes and slow downs I've had with Windows on a similar setup system. Install more than 10 apps in Windows, regardless of wether its running or not and the kind/quality of hardware, and the OS would self-distruct.
I'm more productive on my Mac, not because my OS or my software is vastly different, just that Apple thought of a lot of neat things like Automator, panes for windows to display extra info., that just make things easier and more enjoyable.
The premium on the hardware is worth it. That said, since the time i bought my iMac G5, Quad Core chips were released, RAM prices etc have plummeted. I'm no gamer ... but in last 3 years Apple hardware prices are not reflective of current market realities and PC value for money has shot up. Then again higher margins is keeping Apple aflot and the industry down and Apple is not not afraid to keep prices up.
1. Boobies.
Now move along kiddies...no need to repeat what like half of neowin has already said.
1. Boobies.
Now move along kiddies...no need to repeat what like half of neowin has already said.
All of the above +
51. It's free.
In conclusion: FAIL. =)
What a waste of time.
The only way someone would switch to another OS is if it suited their needs, not because someone posts 50 reasons on their blog.
STOP PROSELYTISM!
Is he mad? I don't think so. He's just a liar.
Most off of his points are pure BS.
say NO to flame wars on OS's!
Perhaps it's time for him to take off the "blog shades" and start posting some real news instead of blatant net trolling.
Last edited by medafor on 20 Feb 2008 - 05:50
So Leopard destroys things that are built into the OS. Got it.
So Vista and XP suck... but when you want to use the programs that you can't use in Leopard, just install Vista or XP. Got it.
You were right about OS X "crushing" Microsoft's OS. Care to look at Vista's market share vs. Apple's? Yep. Microsoft is sure being crushed. Yep.
I really hope English is not your first language. If it is, you might want to go back to school.
So Leopard destroys things that are built into the OS. Got it.
So Vista and XP suck... but when you want to use the programs that you can't use in Leopard, just install Vista or XP. Got it.
You were right about OS X "crushing" Microsoft's OS. Care to look at Vista's market share vs. Apple's? Yep. Microsoft is sure being crushed. Yep.
I really hope English is not your first language. If it is, you might want to go back to school.
LOL nice try, you still didn't give any reason not to switch to Mac, instead you came with the typical "correct your grammar" flame, bad grammar or not, I still probably make more money than you, so how much does grammar matter after high school, lol. Sorry my essay didn't get an A+, teacher.
So Leopard destroys things that are built into the OS. Got it.
So Vista and XP suck... but when you want to use the programs that you can't use in Leopard, just install Vista or XP. Got it.
You were right about OS X "crushing" Microsoft's OS. Care to look at Vista's market share vs. Apple's? Yep. Microsoft is sure being crushed. Yep.
I really hope English is not your first language. If it is, you might want to go back to school.
LOL nice try, you still didn't give any reason not to switch to Mac, instead you came with the typical "correct your grammar" flame, bad grammar or not, I still probably make more money than you, so how much does grammar matter after high school, lol. Sorry my essay didn't get an A+, teacher.
You might make more money than I do at this point in my life. I really don't care how much money you make or how many men you've slept with, that's really not my concern. I'm not here to try to tell you to switch to a different OS. I could care less what OS you use. It really seems that only the Mac fans have a hard-on to try to get people to change.
You could have three groups of people. One group supports the case for Windows. One for Mac. One for Linux.
Each one takes turns at saying what particular feature is better about its choice for OS. The other two respond.
For example, you start with the Windows team saying 'Windows has [special feature], and that is good because of [reasons].'
Then, the Mac team and the Linux team would either support or debunk that claim, depending on whether or not Mac or Linux has that feature, or something similar.
Then it would be the Mac team's turn. Then the Linux team's. Then back to the Windows team. You keep going until you've exhausted every feature you can think of.
This might produce comparisons that are a bit fairer instead of all these 'why my OS is a million times better than yours' stories that only irritate people.
A good idea in principle and its probably been done somewhere on the internet.
Problems you will always hit are as follows:
1. The personal insults, flaming etc... Some people actually take it personally when you discuss an operating systems failures.
2. Most people who consider them selves "experts" dont have the first clue. Look at the above arguments, about mouse buttons, codecs, prices.
3. In most cases you are asking for opinions and not facts. This leads to arguments and not answers.
4. Most Windows users have never used a Mac or Linux. Those that have usually have not spent long enough on it make an educated evaluation. Some people give up just because the window controls are in a different place, its just not for them.
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