An iTWire journo by the name of Alex has found yet another Vista SP1 issue to bitch about, this time it's the x64 version and early reports are pointing to several problems. Anything from the "Windows Performance Rating" vanishing, to the poor souls Treo not being recognized through "Windows Mobile Center" after SP1 installation. There could be many explanations for this happening, for example: The guys laptop is so sucky that Vista did him a favor by simply hiding crap results, and his phone may no longer sync to Mobile center because he has so few friends and contacts it just isn't worth it. Think of some yourself, it's fun!
Vista may have done the guy a favour.
Or Vista is indeed broke, and Microsoft need to sort it, but basing an entire 3 page article on one guys (unconfirmed) issues with his laptop seems so troll-like, it's almost beyond belief and seems more like a knee jerk reaction. Either way I am sick of all the ranting as of late, so much so that I will be installing Windows Vista x64 SP1 just to annoy websites like iTWire, InfoWorld and CNet (Staff bloggers) and all of their readers to show them that any normal user can install Vista x64 SP1 and have everything work afterwards.
Meanwhile a whambulance has been dispatched to the above mentioned sites to pick up the whiney tossers.
Vista may have done the guy a favour.
Or Vista is indeed broke, and Microsoft need to sort it, but basing an entire 3 page article on one guys (unconfirmed) issues with his laptop seems so troll-like, it's almost beyond belief and seems more like a knee jerk reaction. Either way I am sick of all the ranting as of late, so much so that I will be installing Windows Vista x64 SP1 just to annoy websites like iTWire, InfoWorld and CNet (Staff bloggers) and all of their readers to show them that any normal user can install Vista x64 SP1 and have everything work afterwards.
Meanwhile a whambulance has been dispatched to the above mentioned sites to pick up the whiney tossers.
(A typical clueless journos ride)
HOWEVER, I can no longer sync my WM phone using WMDC. It no longer recognises the phone being plugged in, and in fact plugging the WM phone in causes other USB devices to stop being recognised until the next reboot.
It's a PITA.
I didn't have any problems during the beta, but this is a new PC, so I didn't beta test on this hardware.
This could be an SP1 incompatibility with your hardware, but cannot be generalized.
Flamingsites:p
My HTC Trinity connects fine to WMDC
From what i understadn about the installation issues with SP1, is a clean install with sP1 is fine, and this is only what i have been told but it is previous updates to vista that are causing the problems in upgrading, it has nothign to do with drivers, but hey i have not tested any of this myself so am only going on what i have been told..
The only reason MS push them via Updates is that average computer users get it straight-forward. But we need to take into account that a massive number of program developers doesn't stick to MS recommended guidelines when developing their programs and sometimes this will lead to problems when service packs or updates are pushed via updates.
Having said that, im a happy user of SP1 x86 (off course, i made a clean install).
All the ranting about OS's lately is getting really annoying and senseless. I just hope it ends soon.
Obviously this person doesn't read, because if he did, he would know that there is issues at this time with SP1. *sigh* The ignorance of some people.
This puzzles me as my laptop is brand new and fully implemented vista.
Anyone else experience this?
Anyway, last Thursday I installed SP1 for Vista, I hit the install button and left my office worried that I was going to have issues the next morning when I got to work (and fully prepared to format and reinstall Vista if I did). Low and behold I came into work and the login screen was there waiting. I have had 0 issues with the laptop since SP1 and I am VERY surprised that my "Upgrade/Update" from XP Pro SP2 -> Vista Business -> Vista SP1 has gone with zero issues but I am very happy.
Performance has increased, file copy is faster, start up and shut down times have pretty much been chopped in half.
Also, I love the picture of The Wambulance!
Want some cheese to go with your whine?
Really, it is refreshing to see this kind of post. Vista has the same growing pains XP had. I have the OS on 4 machines in my house, 1 is used by my wife with no problem, the other by my 4 year old son, no problem.
I've had only one issue with SP1, and that was back in early beta. Ever since the later builds it has been fine. I am now running SP1 final (clean installed via the integrated ISO from MS), and everything is perfect.
PS: just cause you like vista doesn't mean everyone should like vista too.
I know, someone should moderate the news posts on Neowin, we come here to get the latest tech news, not to hear some guy whine and insult someone who is having problems with his OS, for that we have forums. Mods kindly take note.
That's the response I've read a lot. It seems every time Microsoft releases a new piece of software, the user obviously is expected to buy new hardware to run it.
Stop whining and holding MS resposible for YOUR purchasing mistakes in the past. If you bought your computer at best buy thinking they knew your machine was future proof for what you do... Then I feel sorry for you. Some know some don't. No offence best buy ppl that "are" smart.
BTW all the above if purchased could be had for less then 600 if you do it right... SO DO IT!!
Now all of us that have comps that work lets sit back and enjoy the splendor of having AWSOME computers... BOOM!!
OH YEAH and 7 Years is long enough to wait for a new OS... And yes you should buy new hardware. unless you just type... in that case buy a word processor of ebay.. Or use pen and paper. LOL Change in 7 years is good. get new stuff
You know lots of people go and buy their computers from Best Buy or whoever because they're not tech enthusiasts like us. They want to buy a box and bring it home, and plug it in, and start using it. Believe me - I walk around PC World here in the UK chuckling to myself at the people at the 'Tech Guys' counter getting charged ridiculous money for simple fixes, and buying overpriced systems but I completely understand that if you're not a techie and you don't have any techie friends or family, THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE. And as Microsoft has positioned Windows as the premium operating system for home computers, it should be written with that market in mind.
Cars would never sell if people were expected to do anything other than basic maintenance, or build the freaking thing before they were able to use it. Why should you have to jump through the same hoops for your home computer?
I don't particularly like Vista, but similarly i'm sick to death of the bashing articles.
I agree "but similarly I’m sick to death of the bashing articles."
I don't think this kind of "Unprofessional journalism looks better". Or it's a strategy to get more people from the Inq.
Thank you Neowin, I am glad finally someone said this... Its extremely annoying hearing from supposed experts that what you are doing will cause the sky to fall when you use it everyday flawlessly. Its not perfect (nothing is). Enough with all the sensationalism and lets get back to being objective and realistic.
Fight fire with fire? Nah. Could we please keep this crap just to BPN? Next thing you know we have another site calling the whambulance on the Neowin admin who called the whambulance on a 'tosser.'
any ideas?
(I have vista x64 Ultimate)
It's good to hear this isn't fixed in the service pack.
Nice picture, I'm saving this =).
(Although it'd make more sense if you specifically put "Vista").
Get off your high horse Steve and realise Neowin is not the god of the internet that knows best. Insulting other sites just makes you look childish and brings down Neowin in the ranks of professional technology news.
From the way you are going with your new ideas and posting methods on Neowin, it seems you really dont want to keep your member base any more.
If I am wrong about your choice of site over Neowin I apologize in advance, but I don't think I am.
PS: To show some of our newer members some balance, we still C/P stuff from other news sites.
If I am wrong about your choice of site over Neowin I apologize in advance, but I don't think I am.
PS: To show some of our newer members some balance, we still C/P stuff from other news sites.
I know you are reffering to the Vista Forums, where everyone seems to have gone to after having issues with a lot of the power obsessed staff on Neowin, but that is not the site i am reffering too. Obviously though you seem to have jumped the gun, think you instantly know things you know nothing about.
The site i am reffering to is far larger than Neowin, they know nothing of Neowin and i have never seen their name mentioned here either, so dont go thinking you know which forum, when you obviously dont have a clue. Especially when i dont sign up to other forums with this username
The ONLY reason i still browse Neowin is for the tech news items. But hopefully items like what you have put here will not be a regular occurance, as it is bringing down the quality IMHO.
But as one of the founders, you are free to post what ever childish stuff you like.
The problem is that it WAS the kind of thing that "made Neowin Famous", but now things have matured and many people DONT expect this kind of news.
The other issue is that you say that to Steve (Neobond) and he gets all high and mighty about it, because as usual... He thinks he knows best.
Oh well, whats the point.
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