MS Proposes Open XML Standard Again

Never one to back down from a fight, Microsoft has upped its efforts to have its Office Open XML document format made into an international standard. Delegates from 37 countries met on Monday to reconsider the company's proposal in a meeting hosted by the International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) and International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC); the conference is meant to help broker consensus after a preliminary vote on the standard failed six months ago. There will be no ballot during the week-long talks, but the 87 national standards bodies who previously voted will have until March 29 to adjust their positions, giving the world's largest software maker another shot at the two-thirds majority it needs for approval (MS had previously only won 53% of the vote).

"The ISO/IEC members who voted on the draft in September will have 30 days to change their votes if they wish," said Roger Frost, a spokesman for the Geneva-based agency.

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XML suck!.

No matter if came from a bunch of nerds (linux ) or a bunch of greed (windows), XML is just a overhyped crap that even is not possible to mimic the use of HTML.

Open XML should be dropped and Microsoft proposes extensions for the office products which then satisfy Microsoft stance with oxml but leaving one standard odf ...

Is this really too hard for MS to grasp.

We need more open standards. This is how growth works.

(krustylicious said @ #10)
Open XML should be dropped and Microsoft proposes extensions for the office products which then satisfy Microsoft stance with oxml but leaving one standard odf ...

Is this really too hard for MS to grasp.

We need more open standards. This is how growth works.


There should be the only one "standard" programming language. Happy coding in brain****!

Enough is enough... Their Open XML standard is pretty nasty. :-(

Good luck for a third party to correctly implement attributes like "useWord97LineBreakRules", "useWord2002TableStyleRules", "lineWrapLikeWord6"... It's insanity and an open standard only for Microsoft to use properly. I don't want to see this happen.

(Jugalator said @ #9)
Enough is enough... Their Open XML standard is pretty nasty. :-(

Good luck for a third party to correctly implement attributes like "useWord97LineBreakRules", "useWord2002TableStyleRules", "lineWrapLikeWord6"... It's insanity and an open standard only for Microsoft to use properly. I don't want to see this happen.


You're just a nasty little liar. You didn't see a single letter of the standard and yet you are accusing people.
READ THE F***ING STANDARD (at least about the attributes you've mentioned)

I imagine if it becomes a standard then it'll be able to be used by whoever wants it. If that is the case then I support this!

The whole point of the process is to refine the Spec, which is a good thing, if it's going to be an Open Standard, it's gotta be updated to play nice with anyone who wants to implement it.

Why not have both ODF and OOXML as standards? more choice for us.

Also, the "old formats inside a new container" argument goes out the window, now that the documentation has been open sourced via BSD license. (check it out on sourceforge)


The real news is Microsoft isn't doing enough to help make ODF work with their products. This is my only real complaint, as I have no issues with their wanting OOXML as a standard too.

(David3k said @ #1)
Why not have both ODF and OOXML as standards? more choice for us.

You can't have two standards. That's exact the point of a standard. Developers, companies design/interact their products around this one standard. And that's what makes competition good. There can only be one.
Microsoft is a member of OASIS and they had already the opportunity to work on an open standard. Like what happened to the Internet, they didn't cared. I'll even quote them:
We are OASIS members but since we didn't have an interest in ODF we didn't participate in its development (no one really had interest in it until much later in the game).

When they finally grasped that this could be good for them in a matter of control and biz... ODF was already a standard. So what did they do? They surely didn't further improved ODF... They try and try to undermine ODF (Seriously, what is the point of them being in OASIS?). They pushed a new standard. They bought countries in ISO to represent them in ECMA(eveybody's little whore)/ISO, like mine. They are now being investigated by the European Union due to what they did.

(David3k said @ #6)
Why not have both ODF and OOXML as standards? more choice for us.
More choice for us? You mean like the 15 different ways to shut down Windows Vista? When people don't understand all of the choices offered, it is not a good thing. "Does this one shut my computer down too?" "What does Sleep do?" "What is the difference between Sleep and Hibernate?"

Choices - they aren't always a good thing.

How long they are going to be fighting? As I remember after MS won last time world still was jumping on open source standard, not on MS. I do not think that "ISO standard" sticker would help MS to make people use it.

(Angel Blue01 said @ #1)
I hope they lose again.

Why?

(qdave said @ #2)
i hope they win this time.

Also, Why?

What's the story here?! You guys too busy to explain yourselves? Had hot dates and had to rush out? What??

(Octol said @ #3)

Why?


Also, Why?

What's the story here?! You guys too busy to explain yourselves? Had hot dates and had to rush out? What?? :ermm:


If they win, that will freeze the standard and improve interoperability with open-source programs.