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Microsoft releases activation exploit detection update

Michael Stanclift   on 27 February 2008 - 01:29 · 41 comments & 20196 views

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Microsoft has released an update for Windows Vista designed to detect activation exploits that bypass product activation and that interfere with usual Windows operation. This update is tagged as KB940510.

According to Microsoft "when the update is installed, no functionality of your operating system will be affected. If no exploits are detected, the update silently exits. If exploits are detected, you will be provided a link to a Web site that describes how you can remove the exploits. When the exploits are removed, you may be asked to use a valid product key to activate your copy of Windows. If you do not want to remove the exploits, Windows may disable the exploits and then ask you to use a valid product key to activate Windows."

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(1 reply) #1 +Kushan on 27 Feb 2008 - 01:33
cracks down? lol

I don't really see the point in this update, what user is going to remove the exploit themselves?
#1.1 Xerxes on 27 Feb 2008 - 02:08
That was what I was thinking. If they were been serious about this, it should at least remove the exploits itself or to be more of a pest, lock the user out of the computer until they enter a valid product key. However, even then it won't stop them, as other have said they just won't download it and when MS make it manditory, there will be a crack that removes it. So no matter what MS do, they won't win.
(1 reply) #2 Emon on 27 Feb 2008 - 01:38
Just don't install the update .. right click -> Hide Update
#2.1 al11588 on 27 Feb 2008 - 03:04
+1 i did that easy. lol
#3 Mythex on 27 Feb 2008 - 01:43
Lol, this is an improvement for Microsoft's "crackdown program". Before this, it would just pop up with a message saying something along the lines of "This computer is running an illegal version of Windows Vista" but it does nothing afterwards and the user just clicks OK. Now, they are actually going to remove to exploits, looks like MS is getting smarter!

Emon has a point; just hide the updates...but then again you would never be able to update Vista...well, not through the official updater at least .
(1 reply) #4 Emon on 27 Feb 2008 - 01:45
I think you still would be able to update vista ...just don't get this particular update.
#4.1 Mythex on 27 Feb 2008 - 01:48
(Emon said @ #4)
I think you still would be able to update vista ...just don't get this particular update.


And how can you be sure it won't be secretly bundled in any other future updates? I doubt they'll just release this thing once and never use it again. If they're smart enough, they'd put it in some other updates as well, since now everyone knows which update (KB940510, according to the article) has this exploit-checker.
(1 reply) #5 Swift33 on 27 Feb 2008 - 01:53
#5.1 Marshalus on 27 Feb 2008 - 03:07
(Swift33 said @ #5)


Actually no, that post was about how they are going to do it, this is a post that they did with the article from their site.

Thank you for playing.
(1 reply) #6 Marty2003 on 27 Feb 2008 - 01:54
They could make this update a pre-requisite for all future updates, so all those running illegal versions will not be able to install any more windows updates. But I really doubt MS would do that. Either way I just installed the update and it's all good.
#6.1 Jugalator on 27 Feb 2008 - 08:32
That could make more systems subject to exploits though, if they'd get no more updates.
(3 replies) #7 michael.dobrofsky on 27 Feb 2008 - 02:12
Just run legit copies of Windows and you're fine. If you begrudge paying or getting an OEM Windows, move to Ubuntu. I don't get the pirates.
#7.1 X'tyfe on 27 Feb 2008 - 02:21
(michael.dobrofsky said @ #7)
Just run legit copies of Windows and you're fine. If you begrudge paying or getting an OEM Windows, move to Ubuntu. I don't get the pirates.


no? you seem to forget why windows has most of the market share
if programs were made for linux, and it had it better hardware support, then there would be no reason to pirate at all
#7.2 El Sid on 27 Feb 2008 - 12:20
(X'tyfe said @ #7.1)
(michael.dobrofsky said @ #7)
Just run legit copies of Windows and you're fine. If you begrudge paying or getting an OEM Windows, move to Ubuntu. I don't get the pirates.


no? you seem to forget why windows has most of the market share
if programs were made for linux, and it had it better hardware support, then there would be no reason to pirate at all


And how is that Microsoft's fault?
#7.3 kcbworth on 27 Feb 2008 - 15:19
(El Sid said @ #7.2)
And how is that Microsoft's fault?


Um, whats the difference whos fault it is? Here's the options for this person (presuming forking money out is not):

(a) use a free OS with limited software
(b) pirate windows with extensive available software

Net result to MS either way - absolutely nothing.

So, what does it matter whether its Microsoft's fault the software isn't available on other OS's?
(1 reply) #8 xiphi on 27 Feb 2008 - 02:28
I think you have to install this update in order to get the others. After installing it, I got a few more afterward.
#8.1 bathisland on 27 Feb 2008 - 08:14
I also installed this one but no option of additional updates has popped up so far.

BTW, this was painless.
(1 reply) #9 Skyfrog on 27 Feb 2008 - 02:48
I would love to see the looks on the pirates' faces when they voluntarily install this optional update which clearly tells them it is going to disable their exploits.
#9.1 Turge on 27 Feb 2008 - 03:58
(Skyfrog said @ #9)
I would love to see the looks on the pirates' faces when they voluntarily install this optional update which clearly tells them it is going to disable their exploits.

LOL
#10 GFree on 27 Feb 2008 - 03:10
OK, my post was removed because I stated how the update did nothing to stop certain pirated versions of Windows.

No matter. I'll just enjoy not having to pay money to Microsoft, and Neowin can enjoy having to censor their boards due to being Microsoft's bitch apparently.
#11 Killa Aaron on 27 Feb 2008 - 03:11
my post was removed too just asking a question
(3 replies) #12 ChopSuey on 27 Feb 2008 - 03:12
This is weird... I have Vista SP1 installed and I don't see this update in my Windows Update.
#12.1 GFree on 27 Feb 2008 - 03:15
(ChopSuey said @ #1)
This is weird... I have Vista SP1 installed and I don't see this update in my Windows Update.

Maybe Windows just hasn't performed a recent check yet. Run Windows Update, click "Check for Updates". Should be there.
#12.2 ChopSuey on 27 Feb 2008 - 03:17
(GFree said @ #12.1)
(ChopSuey said @ #1)
This is weird... I have Vista SP1 installed and I don't see this update in my Windows Update.

Maybe Windows just hasn't performed a recent check yet. Run Windows Update, click "Check for Updates". Should be there.


Nope, still not there. I am running Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 (legal OEM version - not cracked). Update still not showing.
#12.3 easylover on 27 Feb 2008 - 05:37
it only shows on Vista 32-bit, atm...
#13 shockz on 27 Feb 2008 - 03:26
Updated.
(7 replies) #14 medafor on 27 Feb 2008 - 03:31
I purchased Vista, I use the Vista activation crack only because I had to reinstall my OS, several times, also changed out my hard drive twice, wont let me activate anymore. Im sick of calling MS to activate. Vista activation is horrible, another reason i switched to OS X Leopard. I just wont update until another crack comes out to defeat this, thanks for the heads up neowin. Can't stand MS.
#14.1 TheNay on 27 Feb 2008 - 04:27
Yea talkin to someone in India and repeating 32 #'s is annoying, I had to do it once, so annoying.
I hate Win Activation and prefer the crack it makes things easier, not that I say piracy is great but....
#14.2 Xerxes on 27 Feb 2008 - 04:40
I honistly don't see what the fuss is, I've had to ring up MS multiple times to reactivate Windows.

These days though, I just image my computers already activated and will only activate manually when a update requires it or when I must do a clean install and even then it's hardly the end of the world ringing them up.

I can't see how cracking it makes it easier, cause everytime MS fixed it you gotta get a new crack...all that could be avoided if you made a less then 5 min call, I just don't get it. If you format often for whatever reason, perhaps imaging is a better option? saves having to crack it all the time...
#14.3 medafor on 27 Feb 2008 - 05:17
(Xerxes said @ #14.2)
I honistly don't see what the fuss is, I've had to ring up MS multiple times to reactivate Windows.

These days though, I just image my computers already activated and will only activate manually when a update requires it or when I must do a clean install and even then it's hardly the end of the world ringing them up.

I can't see how cracking it makes it easier, cause everytime MS fixed it you gotta get a new crack...all that could be avoided if you made a less then 5 min call, I just don't get it. If you format often for whatever reason, perhaps imaging is a better option? saves having to crack it all the time...


good idea, i will consider making a backup activated image, what app do you use to image? Thanks for the suggestion.
#14.4 sibot on 27 Feb 2008 - 06:13
(medafor said @ #14.3)
(Xerxes said @ #14.2)
I honistly don't see what the fuss is, I've had to ring up MS multiple times to reactivate Windows.

These days though, I just image my computers already activated and will only activate manually when a update requires it or when I must do a clean install and even then it's hardly the end of the world ringing them up.

I can't see how cracking it makes it easier, cause everytime MS fixed it you gotta get a new crack...all that could be avoided if you made a less then 5 min call, I just don't get it. If you format often for whatever reason, perhaps imaging is a better option? saves having to crack it all the time...


good idea, i will consider making a backup activated image, what app do you use to image? Thanks for the suggestion.


Vista ultimate comes with its own image backup tool, otherwise you can use a 3rd party software Acronis =)
#14.5 daPhoenix on 27 Feb 2008 - 09:08
(Xerxes said @ #14.2)
I honistly don't see what the fuss is, I've had to ring up MS multiple times to reactivate Windows.

When I reinstall my OSX (Well, to be honest only had to re-install it when I did upgrade to Leopard) I don't have to call them.

When I install Solaris, I don't have to call anyone.
When I install any brand of Linux I don't have to call anyone.

Infact, when I install anything apart from Windows I don't have to call any number or waste my time on useless crap like this.

Hence, the activation is annoying, useless and it really, really doesn't do jack to stop piracy.
#14.6 HawkMan on 27 Feb 2008 - 11:36
(daPhoenix said @ #14.5)
(Xerxes said @ #14.2)
I honistly don't see what the fuss is, I've had to ring up MS multiple times to reactivate Windows.

When I reinstall my OSX (Well, to be honest only had to re-install it when I did upgrade to Leopard) I don't have to call them.

When I install Solaris, I don't have to call anyone.
When I install any brand of Linux I don't have to call anyone.

Infact, when I install anything apart from Windows I don't have to call any number or waste my time on useless crap like this.

Hence, the activation is annoying, useless and it really, really doesn't do jack to stop piracy.



Actually considering how long it took for any good usablel hacks to become available and usable for Vista it did a pretty good job at stopping piracy, ow that it's easy, they added this update, which isn't aimed at the ones that know they're runnign a pirated version, but at the peopel that don't know.
#14.7 +bryonhowley on 28 Feb 2008 - 05:45
(HawkMan said @ #14.6)
(daPhoenix said @ #14.5)
(Xerxes said @ #14.2)
I honistly don't see what the fuss is, I've had to ring up MS multiple times to reactivate Windows.

When I reinstall my OSX (Well, to be honest only had to re-install it when I did upgrade to Leopard) I don't have to call them.

When I install Solaris, I don't have to call anyone.
When I install any brand of Linux I don't have to call anyone.

Infact, when I install anything apart from Windows I don't have to call any number or waste my time on useless crap like this.

Hence, the activation is annoying, useless and it really, really doesn't do jack to stop piracy.



Actually considering how long it took for any good usable hacks to become available and usable for Vista it did a pretty good job at stopping piracy, ow that it's easy, they added this update, which isn't aimed at the ones that know they're running a pirated version, but at the people that don't know.


The first usable hack that I tested was out before Vista was even retail. The fact is hacks for Vista came much faster than a true crack for WGA under XP. By the time Vista was retail there was to hack on torrent sides that would work correctly plus the 2099 hack. Same goes for SP1 there are already two that I know of that work for SP1 RTM which by the way this patch does not detect.

#15 Killa Aaron on 27 Feb 2008 - 03:40
just installed it and mine still works Vista Ultimate
#16 toadeater on 27 Feb 2008 - 06:13
I don't have Vista.
(2 replies) #17 7Dash8 on 27 Feb 2008 - 08:50
ZOMG!!! The nerve of Microsoft to do this! Unbelievable!! How dare they actually force people to pay for their software!! Those evil, evil people at Microsoft. They won't stop at anything, they're striking a blow at our freedom to rip off stuff from the Internet!!
#17.1 ANova on 27 Feb 2008 - 23:12
ZOMG don't you ever get tired of hearing yourself preach rhetoric???!!!!
#17.2 milesfromordinary on 30 Mar 2008 - 22:09
yes, he's preaching rhetoric, or, as some people might call it, "the law".
#18 koppit on 27 Feb 2008 - 14:28
Acronis True Image and Norton Ghost that comes on xp 9 in 1 are great for disc image backups.
But yes, ultimate does come with its own software.
#19 SirEvan on 27 Feb 2008 - 17:55
hmm It shows up on my laptop running vista home premium 32 bit version, but didn't show up in vista ultimate x64 on my desktop

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