Sun to Create Java VM for iPhone
Posted by Bezhou Feng on 10 March 2008 - 04:54 · 13 comments & 7870 views
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#1 Posted by Hell-In-A-Handbasket on 10 Mar 2008 - 06:08
- whats an iTouch ?
only thought there was the iPhone and iPod Touch
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#2 Posted by instant.human on 10 Mar 2008 - 06:18
- maybe the iTouch is just a typo. =)
expected, imho, but nice for iphone/ipod touch owners, i guess. =)
my friend is missing flash badly, though. like many others, i suppose. but 2.0 will bring it, as far as ive heard. =)
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#3 Posted by RhythmFlirt on 10 Mar 2008 - 07:28
- This looks like a good come back for iPhone.
Can't wait for Java and Flash!
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#4 Posted by djprotoss on 10 Mar 2008 - 08:29
- I'd be surprised. Half the point of the iPhone SDK setup is so that apple can review everything that gets uploaded. They explicitly ban programs which then act as a loader shell for other programs (e.g. a JVM) so they can ensure the only way to get stuff on your phone/touch is either stuff you have compiled yourself (not a lot they can do about that whilst giving you the sdk) or that they have vetted.
Either sun has got some back-door dealing setup apple haven't announced yet, or more likely, sun is relying on the demand for java to force apple to allow it... -
#4.1 Posted by mattrobs on 10 Mar 2008 - 09:08
- Exactly. There's no way in hell Apple will allow Java on the iPhone. This is just a publicity stunt.
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#4.2 Posted by cork1958 on 10 Mar 2008 - 12:09
- (mattrobs said @ #4.1)Exactly. There's no way in hell Apple will allow Java on the iPhone. This is just a publicity stunt.
Cool. Don't want or have Sun's junk on ANY of my stuff. -
#4.3 Posted by eSouL on 10 Mar 2008 - 12:53
- (cork1958 said @ #4.2)Cool. Don't want or have Sun's junk on ANY of my stuff.
You know, you don't have to install it. -
#4.4 Posted by z0phi3l on 10 Mar 2008 - 14:36
- (eSouL said @ #4.3)(cork1958 said @ #4.2)Cool. Don't want or have Sun's junk on ANY of my stuff.
You know, you don't have to install it.
But if Apple blocks it outright, then no one will develop anything that uses java and you won't have to worry about installing it by proxy for any app -
#4.5 Posted by +Axon on 10 Mar 2008 - 15:52
- You know, considering that Java is on everything these days, I should be able to think of one single app that's programed in Java that is a must-have.
But I can't. I can't think of a single Java program I like. Most of the time, when I see that coffee cup, I think "Oh great". -
#4.6 Posted by evo_spook on 10 Mar 2008 - 18:45
- (Axon said @ #4.5)You know, considering that Java is on everything these days, I should be able to think of one single app that's programed in Java that is a must-have.
But I can't. I can't think of a single Java program I like. Most of the time, when I see that coffee cup, I think "Oh great".
Java's a good idea, it just doesn't work that good yet. -
#4.7 Posted by ivanz on 10 Mar 2008 - 19:48
- (evo_spook said @ #7)(Axon said @ #4.5)You know, considering that Java is on everything these days, I should be able to think of one single app that's programed in Java that is a must-have.
But I can't. I can't think of a single Java program I like. Most of the time, when I see that coffee cup, I think "Oh great".
Java's a good idea, it just doesn't work that good yet.
How so? Given that multinational corporation use it for web sites and services, hardware automation, and many other purposes I would say it is very well implemented over hundreds of platforms.
Of course people complain about it being slow on Windows, which is true because it loads the whole runtime and interpreter every time an applet or program is run. It would be the equivalent of loading Windows each time you run a program. However, Java is one of the fastest bytecode interpreters that exist with that level of functionality.
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#5 Posted by jamesyfx on 10 Mar 2008 - 19:58
- A lot of UK government systems are built around java applets.
"Now, the iPhone is open" as a target platform, Klein said. The free JVM would be made available via Apple's AppStore marketplace for third-party applications. "We're going to make sure that the JVM offers the Java applications as much access to the native functionality of the iPhone as possible...It's a new platform for us. We might be able to bring additional technologies onto the iPhone and the iTouch." Apple could not be reached for comment on Sun's plans in time for this article.