Now all Vista users can Dream
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#2 Posted by Zilos on 13 Mar 2008 - 21:02
- doesnt allow custom ones though
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#2.1 Posted by mrmckeb on 14 Mar 2008 - 08:22
- I'm a little annoyed about that. It says you can "run .DREAM animated wallpapers (there are hundreds of them)", but then you actually can't. It sucks because I downloaded quite a few dreams, then went to try them and couldn't use them... waste of a few hundred MB of my cap.
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#3 Posted by trip21 on 13 Mar 2008 - 21:11
- Good for all Vista users but for those with Ultimate the only extra that's worth a pinch of **** is now available without the big price tag that Ultimate has
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#3.1 Posted by ksalter on 13 Mar 2008 - 23:42
- That's right because Ultimate doesn't come with anything else other than the Extras.
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#3.2 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 13 Mar 2008 - 23:57
- However, one of the big features over the other editions was the Ultimate Extras program. Microsoft has failed to deliver and I know I certainly feel let down - it's absolutely ridiculous that a company of Microsoft's size cannot handle releasing a few basic extras in a timely manner.
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#3.3 Posted by HawkMan on 14 Mar 2008 - 01:02
- No the extras wasn't a big feature, they where what's the word... oh yeah.. "extras" :p
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#3.4 Posted by :: Lyon :: on 14 Mar 2008 - 02:44
- Wait.. I thought you can get a poker game? That's worth hundreds of dollars for sure!
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#3.5 Posted by RAID 0 on 14 Mar 2008 - 07:01
- (theyarecomingforyou said @ #3.2)However, one of the big features over the other editions was the Ultimate Extras program. Microsoft has failed to deliver and I know I certainly feel let down - it's absolutely ridiculous that a company of Microsoft's size cannot handle releasing a few basic extras in a timely manner.
YES! This is EXACLTY it! I'm no MS lover OR hater, if they have stuff I like.. I will buy my software from them. It's very scrutinise shopping. The only computer I've built with Vista, is my friends quad core with an 8800 GTS. It hauls ass. Vista Ultimate 64 bit runs great for the most part. He loves it.
Then he asks me, "When are the some more extras going to be released?" I didn't know what in the hell to tell him. "Sorry dude, Microsoft is lazy. It's gonna be a while."
Let's all start a class action lawsuit against MS for lying about the extras. I'm dead serious. If asking and begging does not help get something you PAID FOR... maybe a kick in the wallet will. -
#3.6 Posted by trip21 on 14 Mar 2008 - 08:04
- (ksalter said @ #3.1)That's right because Ultimate doesn't come with anything else other than the Extras.
Well there are the language packs I couldn't download them fast enough
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#3.7 Posted by Jugalator on 14 Mar 2008 - 14:02
- (theyarecomingforyou said @ #3.2)However, one of the big features over the other editions was the Ultimate Extras program.
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#3.8 Posted by jstillion on 14 Mar 2008 - 17:26
- Volume Shadow Copy is a rather nice feature to have for accidentally saving on top of files.
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#3.9 Posted by Smigit on 15 Mar 2008 - 01:28
- (RAID 0 said @ #3.5)Let's all start a class action lawsuit against MS for lying about the extras. I'm dead serious. If asking and begging does not help get something you PAID FOR... maybe a kick in the wallet will.I'm pretty sure they never specified how many Extras they would release and when so in their oppinion (and honestly mine too) you did get what you paid for. I don't see why people placed such high value in Ultimate Extras...I'd never like to take vague promises of updates too seriously. You got some but seriously, had they released 100 there would still be people complaining as everyone had different beliefs what the whole scheme was about.
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#3.10 Posted by RAID 0 on 15 Mar 2008 - 01:43
- (Smigit said @ #3.9)(RAID 0 said @ #3.5)Let's all start a class action lawsuit against MS for lying about the extras. I'm dead serious. If asking and begging does not help get something you PAID FOR... maybe a kick in the wallet will.I'm pretty sure they never specified how many Extras they would release and when so in their oppinion (and honestly mine too) you did get what you paid for. I don't see why people placed such high value in Ultimate Extras...I'd never like to take vague promises of updates too seriously. You got some but seriously, had they released 100 there would still be people complaining as everyone had different beliefs what the whole scheme was about.
It was a LIE! Ever heard of Bait-and-hook? Microsoft SAID they were going to be releasing extras. They have not thus far. It's just silly they're not doing anything at all.
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#4 Posted by vanacid on 13 Mar 2008 - 21:25
- Stop the CPU, start the GPU...
It is like removing clothing from someone to dress someone else. The problem is still there.
Stardock should stop making fancy useless software that does useless things and start making something productive damnit !!
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#4.1 Posted by LTD on 13 Mar 2008 - 21:52
- There's always Windows 7, and if not that, then Win 8, etc., etc.
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#4.2 Posted by +Island Dog on 14 Mar 2008 - 00:03
- (vanacid said @ #6)Stop the CPU, start the GPU...
Stardock should stop making fancy useless software that does useless things and start making something productive damnit !!
The Windows desktop needs some change to improve useability and productivity, it doesn't need more bloat.
Multiplicity
TweakVista
There's more if you need them.
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#4.3 Posted by RAID 0 on 14 Mar 2008 - 07:03
- (LTD said @ #4.1)There's always Windows 7, and if not that, then Win 8, etc., etc.
No joke. I like XP. I will buy Vista when I can buy the DVD with SP1 in there. -
#4.4 Posted by applelinuxwindows on 14 Mar 2008 - 10:50
- (vanacid said @ #4)Stop the CPU, start the GPU...
It is like removing clothing from someone to dress someone else. The problem is still there.
Stardock should stop making fancy useless software that does useless things and start making something productive damnit !!
The Windows desktop needs some change to improve useability and productivity, it doesn't need more bloat.
Maybe you dont like bloat but your 15 year old daughter/sister or your wife might.
Just because you dont want it, doesnt mean there isnt people out there that do. You are not special nor perfect. -
#4.5 Posted by Chipshop on 15 Mar 2008 - 19:18
- (applelinuxwindows said @ #4.4)Maybe you dont like bloat but your 15 year old daughter/sister or your wife might.
Just because you dont want it, doesnt mean there isnt people out there that do. You are not special nor perfect.
15 year old wife !
</bad joke>
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#5 Posted by Foub on 13 Mar 2008 - 22:09
- I could do this months ago under Vista Basic when someone had released a patch version that could be run on any build of Vista. I got quickly bored with it.
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#6 Posted by +hotdog963al on 13 Mar 2008 - 22:15
- God help us all.
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#7 Posted by JamesWeb on 13 Mar 2008 - 22:32
- Dreamscene's a Windows Vista Ultimate Extra, not a Windows Vista Ultimate.
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#8 Posted by z0phi3l on 13 Mar 2008 - 22:42
- Have fun bogging your crappy PC down with that "feature"
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#8.1 Posted by RAID 0 on 14 Mar 2008 - 07:07
- What's a regular PC? I have two dual cores and one single core PC (desktops). So a "regular" PC is a dual core with a gig or more of RAM. Got it.
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#8.2 Posted by Jugalator on 14 Mar 2008 - 14:00
- Agreed, when I use Windows, I have at least one window in maximized mode. It can be a file manager, but usually it's a browser window. I never look at my desktop icons with small windows on it. I have my "desktop" in a more or less organized folder instead. So this would be completely useless for me, as it would just consume resources for something I don't even see.
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#9 Posted by bluarash on 13 Mar 2008 - 22:45
- This is an absolutely pathetic product. It is essentially a crippled beta. WTF? If they want it tested, why not release a full release that can actually use third party .dreams rather than tying the user to three animations. Again pathetic.
I really expect a little more given that this is Stardock (than again maybe not given a recent version of WB).
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#10 Posted by acxz on 13 Mar 2008 - 22:46
- How much would we be expected to pay for this useless piece of software? I can't see many people falling for this... but then again, people have fallen for similar scams in the past...
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#11 Posted by psybapunk on 13 Mar 2008 - 22:48
- More .Dream content coming out this summer? OH MY GOD! I HAVE SOMETHING TO FINALLY LIVE FOR!
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#13 Posted by HalcyonX12 on 13 Mar 2008 - 22:57
- The thing is, they can never release something as an ultimate extra that nobody else will be able to have/use even if it's a 3rd party product. What did purchasers of "ultimate" expect? If they include something that's really good and an awesome bonus, regular users will want it too, and they probably won't get it by adding another $500 on top of their original purchase just to get "ultimate" status. MS will either think it's too much money to pass up and release it to everyone as a separate product, or a 3rd party will try and step up to rake in the cash. What are they going to do, tell people not to make certain applications? There have been apps that are able to even extend MS's own products... good luck keeping anything exclusive on a PC, it's an open platform.
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#14 Posted by CUBBYJR2005 on 13 Mar 2008 - 23:00
- wont microsoft be upset by this
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#15 Posted by Darken on 13 Mar 2008 - 23:16
- Excellent!
My favorite 'bundled' dream: Desktop Earth.
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#16 Posted by Pas on 13 Mar 2008 - 23:41
- for some of you people, it matters not what stardock does, it's never any good. my problem with that is, most of the ones who bash stardock have never tried the apps. it's usually the young people between 17 and 25 who do the complaining. could it be because stardock doesn't give everything away free of charge?
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#16.1 Posted by +GreyWolfSC on 14 Mar 2008 - 15:17
- (Pas said @ #16)for some of you people, it matters not what stardock does, it's never any good. my problem with that is, most of the ones who bash stardock have never tried the apps. it's usually the young people between 17 and 25 who do the complaining. could it be because stardock doesn't give everything away free of charge?
They just have a "don't care" attitude as far as I've experienced. I purchased an Object Desktop a few years ago. New versios of almost everything were scheduled about when the subscription was about to run out, so I e-mailed them asking if there was a renewal discount. The reply I got was basically a dismissive, "Nope. You'll have to purchase it again." I didn't. (And I'm 38, way outside of the demographic you suggested...) -
#16.2 Posted by Frogboy on 14 Mar 2008 - 15:58
- (GreyWolfSC said @ #16.1)(Pas said @ #16)for some of you people, it matters not what stardock does, it's never any good. my problem with that is, most of the ones who bash stardock have never tried the apps. it's usually the young people between 17 and 25 who do the complaining. could it be because stardock doesn't give everything away free of charge?
They just have a "don't care" attitude as far as I've experienced. I purchased an Object Desktop a few years ago. New versios of almost everything were scheduled about when the subscription was about to run out, so I e-mailed them asking if there was a renewal discount. The reply I got was basically a dismissive, "Nope. You'll have to purchase it again." I didn't. (And I'm 38, way outside of the demographic you suggested...)
Object Desktop renews at a fraction of the original price. Always has. $34.95.
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#16.3 Posted by +GreyWolfSC on 15 Mar 2008 - 02:01
- (Frogboy said @ #16.2)(GreyWolfSC said @ #16.1)(Pas said @ #16)for some of you people, it matters not what stardock does, it's never any good. my problem with that is, most of the ones who bash stardock have never tried the apps. it's usually the young people between 17 and 25 who do the complaining. could it be because stardock doesn't give everything away free of charge?
They just have a "don't care" attitude as far as I've experienced. I purchased an Object Desktop a few years ago. New versios of almost everything were scheduled about when the subscription was about to run out, so I e-mailed them asking if there was a renewal discount. The reply I got was basically a dismissive, "Nope. You'll have to purchase it again." I didn't. (And I'm 38, way outside of the demographic you suggested...)
Object Desktop renews at a fraction of the original price. Always has. $34.95.
Also, are you suggesting that Stardock scheduled updates around your particular subscription?
I'll look for the e-mail, but I can assure you that it said, "no."
And I'm not suggesting anything. Nothing in OD seemed complete and I didn't feel comfortable renewing for full price not knowing what the updates would bring.
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#17 Posted by VRam on 14 Mar 2008 - 00:03
- Bought Windows FX from them a long time ago to add some snaz to XP and it hasn't gotten any updates despite forum posting claiming updates were in the works. Doubt I'll be buying from them again. Also annoying that they offer trial versions that are so crippled you really can't test the product.
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#17.1 Posted by carmatic on 14 Mar 2008 - 00:11
- i guess the important thing about the trial version is to see if your computer can run it at a good speed... its better than like, having no trial and then finding out that your computer cant run it, or having the gpu dream feature turned off in the trial so you dont really know how fast it actually runs
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#17.2 Posted by VRam on 14 Mar 2008 - 02:44
- (carmatic said @ #17.1)i guess the important thing about the trial version is to see if your computer can run it at a good speed... its better than like, having no trial and then finding out that your computer cant run it, or having the gpu dream feature turned off in the trial so you dont really know how fast it actually runs
If the trial of Windows FX was fully usable, I would've discovered how buggy it was with some of the effects and thus never purchased it. You can't fully test something if over half of it is disabled.
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#18 Posted by helios01 on 14 Mar 2008 - 00:13
- Nice, if it doesn't slow down my computer or uses too many resources I'll use it.
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#19 Posted by CUBBYJR2005 on 14 Mar 2008 - 00:28
- guys wont Microsoft be upset isnt dreamscapes for ulimate users and if stock doing thsi wont they make microsoft lose money buy selling software that only microsoft suppose to give out?
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#21 Posted by SimplyPotatoes on 14 Mar 2008 - 01:32
- This is fun to play with. Thanks.
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#22 Posted by ir0nw0lf on 14 Mar 2008 - 01:42
- Wow, a lot of angry/sour people and comments in here. Who bodily-functioned in your Wheaties folks? lol I don't see anything wrong with this on the front page, I have seen far far lamer content make the front page. (*cough* Apple anything *cough*)
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#22.1 Posted by Mascrin on 14 Mar 2008 - 02:32
- You said it. If Apple farts in the woods it's on the front page. If Skype releases some new widget it's on the front page. If Google updates a web app it's on the front page. But god forbid if Stardock makes something that's pretty significant it's the end of the world for some folks.
Gee, when Microsoft releases DreamScene for just Ultimate users it was front page news on every site. Stardock releases something that does even more for all users and suddenly it's crap or it isn't news worthy. Puhlease. The double standard is sickening.
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#22.2 Posted by +_X_ on 14 Mar 2008 - 11:03
- (Mascrin said @ #22.1)You said it. If Apple farts in the woods it's on the front page. If Skype releases some new widget it's on the front page. If Google updates a web app it's on the front page. But god forbid if Stardock makes something that's pretty significant it's the end of the world for some folks.
Gee, when Microsoft releases DreamScene for just Ultimate users it was front page news on every site. Stardock releases something that does even more for all users and suddenly it's crap or it isn't news worthy. Puhlease. The double standard is sickening.
Where are the moderators to clean up some of the off topic trolling anyway?
I don't think many people care its on the frong page. Majority of comments are about the software itself. Stop getting off topic. Besides, when MS released dreamscene, we all slagged it off. Why cant we slag off a stardock product? Now thats double standards. -
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markjensen on 14 Mar 2008 - 16:30
- (_X_ said @ #22.2)I don't think many people care its on the frong page. Majority of comments are about the software itself. Stop getting off topic. Besides, when MS released dreamscene, we all slagged it off. Why cant we slag off a stardock product? Now thats double standards.I think that there are two factors at play here. One is, many people here have a hard-on for Stardock for some reason. And I see posts in here that cross the line into personal attacks. Lots of them (though many have been removed). Secondly, there is a bit of over-sensitivity on this topic. I, myself, was cautioned about trolling the news when making a basic non-attacking observation. I'm not even a Windows/Stardock user, so I really don't care about it much one way or the other, yet the staff member (not identified) thought I was trolling.
So it is more the emotion surrounding a topic that many members are overly-sensitive to, combined with what you observe from the moderation end. Though I must give special credit to the staff on this go-around, as there are still plenty of criticial/questioning comments here that are being left open for discussion.
It's a tough balancing act they have to perform (trust me, I have been there when volunteering as a mod here), so also give them credit where it is due.
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#23 Posted by Doli on 14 Mar 2008 - 02:57
- Any good* DREAMS that are free?
*I dont mean a video that has a jump when it goes from the end to the start of the video or a After Effects animation of a picture.
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#24 Posted by GEIST on 14 Mar 2008 - 03:46
- I might consider (re)installing it with my OD subscription if there'd be any decent "dreams". I tried it not too long ago. Most of them look like complete crap that make the desktop unusable. But I guess something like that isn't aimed at people who wanna get *anything* done without being distracted. But I guess those "dreams" make staring mindlessly at the desktop much more entertaining...
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#24.1 Posted by +Island Dog on 14 Mar 2008 - 15:25
- [quote=GEIST said,#24]I might consider (re)installing it with my OD subscription if there'd be any decent "dreams". I tried it not too long ago. Most of them look like complete crap that make the desktop unusable.
I don't think you have looked hard enough.
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#25 Posted by EL1TE on 14 Mar 2008 - 07:01
- @Doli
Sure, just go here: http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?libid=50
Nice work Stardock, but i hope the CPU usage problems are fixed at least in the final version.
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#26 Posted by jason13524 on 14 Mar 2008 - 08:01
- You may talk bad about Microsoft, Apple and Linux but not this stupid app or your post get's deleted.
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#27 Posted by ApuBo on 14 Mar 2008 - 11:10
- windows ultimate 4ever! well first thou one week, then its getting annoying.
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#28 Posted by CyberWolf on 14 Mar 2008 - 15:38
- I dont have anything really against stardock other than why buy their software which tends to eat resources when you can get most of what they offer for free through other programs or hacks.
WindowsBlinds = UXTheme patch
ObjectDock = Rocketdock, ydock, etc
You get my point. I've tried their products, most all of them, and well just never could find a need to keep them.
I have vista ultimate 64b. and all the dreamscape content, and never use it, its not that my system cant handle it, I have a wolfdale e8400/4gig ram/ 8800gt , its just who cares if your wallpaper is moving. It's a novelty.
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#28.1 Posted by Frogboy on 14 Mar 2008 - 16:03
- What point? ObjectDock is free too. What is mentioned in this post is free too. If you think WindowBlinds = uxtheme free patch I'm sure there are people who think Gimp is just as good as Photoshop too.
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#28.2 Posted by leo_the_lion on 14 Mar 2008 - 16:20
- (CyberWolf said @ #2
I dont have anything really against stardock other than why buy their software which tends to eat resources when you can get most of what they offer for free through other programs or hacks.
WindowsBlinds = UXTheme patch
ObjectDock = Rocketdock, ydock, etc
You get my point. I've tried their products, most all of them, and well just never could find a need to keep them.
I have vista ultimate 64b. and all the dreamscape content, and never use it, its not that my system cant handle it, I have a wolfdale e8400/4gig ram/ 8800gt , its just who cares if your wallpaper is moving. It's a novelty.
How many people sit and actually watch their wallpaper?
Their products eats resources!!!! You obviously have NOT tried their products. If you are going to say things like that show me some evidence as my machine and thousands of others show they use negligible resources. And as for the UXTheme patch you are not comparing like with like. Windowblinds does so much more than the UXTP. And if you add in the other components of Object Desktop you have a customisation experience that is second to none. Now show us all the evidence of your so called 'eat resources' tag. Lets see you put up a task manager showing how Windowblinds, Iconpackager, Cursor XP etc etc using loads of resources. Come on, we're waiting. No, I thought not.
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#29 Posted by Justin- on 14 Mar 2008 - 17:33
- I almost thought this really was a "free preview". It's a demo of software that they want users to buy, the only "free" thing about it is the download. But hey, it's Stardock, so what do you expect?
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#29.1 Posted by Frogboy on 14 Mar 2008 - 18:58
- Good grief. Some of you have such a hard on about Stardock that it defies all rationality. The top developer of freeware customization applications is just so greedy I guess. Justin, you're a good guy, I've seen your posts elsewhere. But I can't see for the life of me how you can reasonably argue that Stardock is some sort of money grubbing greedy company (any more than any other company anyway).
Anyway, DeskScapes preview contains 3 animated wallpapers. One is video based, one is dynamic that uses Shader 1.0 and the last is dynamic with polgyons. It's a good way to preview what the technology does and to see how compatible it is on a very wide range of machines. Hence, it's a preview. There isn't even a stand alone DeskScapes to buy.
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#33 Posted by Aquafox on 15 Mar 2008 - 10:05
- ugh...i tried it just to try it out and now can't uninstall it..."Cannot open Install.log" error
if any of you guys have the same problem, go to the directory of the files, cut install.log, paste it on the desktop and run the uninstall software again. When it asks, point it to the newly pasted install.log file. lol, why are stardoc still still using the ancient wise install system anyways...
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#33.1 Posted by +Island Dog on 15 Mar 2008 - 13:50
- (Aquafox said @ #33)...but i didnt like the software anyways...too bloated and over complicating unneccessarily
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#33.2 Posted by Aquafox on 16 Mar 2008 - 17:18
- (Island Dog said @ #33.1)(Aquafox said @ #33)...but i didnt like the software anyways...too bloated and over complicating unneccessarily
How exactly is it "bloated"?
for some reason it slows sucks up both my graphics card usage and cpu usage...weird...cpu jumps from ~2% usage to around ~40-50% when running...and visual performance degrades like hell but i suppose that's to be expected...
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#34 Posted by obsolete_power on 15 Mar 2008 - 15:03
- You know, nobody actually uses animated desktops....they are annoying and pretty pointless unless you have a good quality one.
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#34.1 Posted by jren207 on 15 Mar 2008 - 17:50
- I dunno, something subtle, like an animated wallpaper of a river gently moving might be nice. Kind of relaxing.
Although I don't even have a normal wallpaper, I just have a solid colour set.
I'm mostly looking at something maximized or nearly maximized anyway.
Last year, Microsoft released Windows DreamScene as a Windows Vista Ultimate. Stardock developed some of the animated wallpapres for Windows DreamScene as well as provided DeskScapes 1.0 which allowed DreamScene to run the new .DREAM animated wallpaper format. DeskScapes allowed for not just video dreams (which tend to use more CPU) but dynamic dreams as well which use virtually no CPU whatsoever by putting the animation purely on the video accelerator.
Neowin will have some exclusive .DREAM content coming out this Summer. Stay tuned.