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Anyone who uses computers and is familiar with the Macintosh or Windows platform should not be effected by ads.

If people are ****ed at Microsoft, then it is because of Microsoft's doing. Poor experiences with Windows Vista, and all the stability issues in the past with Windows Me/98SE/98/95/3.1 have given some people a bad impression of Microsoft.

There's so many factors at play here that it is silly to try to point to an advertising campaign as "the cause". Some might say the release if Vista was "the cause". Others might say it has to do with the position of the planets.

Sure, all of these (well, with the possible exception of celestial alignment) have some effect on the survey that CoreBrand did. It is just that no one can separate all the factors out and say "this item had that effect" and "this other item affected the survey this other amount".

All those ads are is just comedy, no one is going to use that as the basis for buying a computer and if they do then they are most likely going to make a mistake with the purchase either way.

No but Windows Product Activation is! They lost one Genuine Windows User with me. I was tired that every time I would change something in the computer it would tell me the key is already in use. F*&! it! I decided to update my BIOS with one of those OEM bios hacked files and now its Genuine, no more calls to Microsoft. Next purchase.. a mac!

The problem is clearly Microsoft. They promise everything then can't deliver most of it. Then after 5 years working on Longhorn the best they can do is Viista.

Instead of admitting where they went wrong they bash XP the best and most stable version of windows yet. It just seems to me they don't care about their end users. They are more focus on beating every company like Google to care about us.

Apple was dead and Microsoft saved them 4-5 years back my reason would be they have no one to copy from if they didn't help Apple.

Microsoft has no ideas of their own.

God, let's hope their ads are hurting Microsoft. At this point, Microsoft doesn't deserve much support.

Apple's ads make Mac customers feel better about Apple and non-Apple customers feel better about not owning one.

I truly think Bill Gates said it best when he was asked about these ads. When asked if they were appropriate or truthful his response was "that's for my customers to decide".


If you take it as a joke then that's great.

If you use it to base a purchasing decision, that's sad.

If you think there's a shred of truth to them, you're already a Mac person.

If you're an IT professional, the ads are insulting to your intelligence.

LOL, ok. I haven't smelled that level of crap since I was stationed over in Germany and drove some of the back roads through the small towns lol. That quote makes it sound like Microsoft is going to be closing shop tomorrow and Steve Jobs will be moving into the Golden Boy office in Redmond lol.

Yes

"I'm a Mac"
"I'm a PC"

IDIOTS, a Mac IS a PC!

Good job Apple, you proved to the public how stupid you truly are.

Personally the Apple ad's make me not like Apple more, they just make Apple sound like a self centered perfectionist... and makes me think... why are they acting so cocky

The ads are misleading, not based on fact and must be written by completely computer illiterate people. Anyone who decides on their purchases on adverts are crazy, no advert is ever going to tell you downfalls with its product they simply highlight the pros.

If anything, Apple's ads hurt their own image and not Microsoft's. Instead of touting their products, they attack Microsoft without providing any concrete info to backup their claims. Stupid people buy Macs, and those are the people who believe their claims. I think most people see their ads as simply bully tactics.

The real cause for Microsoft's tarnished image is all the lawsuits -- there seems to be a new anti-trust suit every day.

Use a Mac, be a Mac... Who cares? And play... any games out there for Mac?

Advertising that your competition is bad is an example why Apple will never be like Microsoft.

i fully disagree with this

microsoft has always been unpopular, its their fault
the mac ads are more like insult to injury, kicking someone when there down sorta thing

the only way to get out of it? windows 7, or people hope anyways

Apple ads hurt my brain, and MS's brand is so inconsistent it doesn't require Apple to damage it.

Vista is hurting MS' brand. They are the ones hurting themselves by putting out crappy software.

Another Vista, MS bashing thread?...(maybe the topic is towards Apple Ads) but there are some fans out there yealing about MS & Vista non-stop

umm when was the last time you saw a Microsoft ad? and the last time you saw an... oh there goes one now.. and another... and another.... apple ads are like lines on the road i swear. all they do is give false info and brainwash the common public.

If anything, those smug ads make me want to run out and buy 10 copies of Vista just out of spite.
Those ads are insulting.

I dont want to take sides here, but the Mac ads are pityful, despite their popularity. They basically say "You have a PC? You're an idiot!". The worst way to advertise is to insult the general public, and that's what they do. These ads target the general public, who are generally less informed compared to... well... us. I'm not saying Mac users are simple minded, but you CAN NOT deny that the messages and arguments conveyed through Apple's advertising campaign are thoughtless, simple-minded and barely valid. I know Neowin has it's fare share of Mac fans, but you cant argue on this: arguments in the Mac commercials are simply unelaborate, are made for the general public who has little tech knowledge. They're like the politicians who dont talk about their plans and ideas, but simply criticize their opponent.

If Microsoft doesn't have similar advertisements it's because they have shown they dont need these low, juvenile media stunts. It's not some product (Windows 7, as many of you have mentioned) that's going to make them more popular, there will always be competitors who find a way to poke fun at them. I mean, Microsoft could find just as many ways to make fun of Apple, but it wont do so in it's advertising campaign. Microsoft may not be what you call a "good" company, but at least it had the dignity to make respectable, non-demeaning ads.

Imagine if Apple didn't exist, MS would be even more dominant and hated much more. Apple's adverts at least give the impression MS is not so dominant and therefore it is less hated.

Apples adverts therefore make people think something along the lines of "jee, these Apple people are annoying, think I'll stick to my tried and trusted XP." whereas Apple should try to make people think "actually they've got a point, why do I use XP?", though the adverts wouldn't be as "cool".

If you take it as a joke then that's great.

If you use it to base a purchasing decision, that's sad.

If you think there's a shred of truth to them, you're already a Mac person.

If you're an IT professional, the ads are insulting to your intelligence.
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Nothing hurts ms but itself. lol

I would say that most MS bashers are freetards (not the more general and sane Linux and *BSD user base), 13 year old trolls (the ones who do it to look cool), and Mac Heads (again, not the sane users of OS X), not people who watch these commercials.

They were witty, but now they just suck, especially now they have no content, no wit, nothing that made them charming. Apple needs a new bit, or people will get sick of it.

And people bashing Vista are just following the Five Stages of Windows Acceptance.

Apple ads sounds like a REALLY HOT girl with AIDS...
So pretty on the outside, so nasty on the inside...

That or all the famous viruses that made the headlines. Pre-SP2 XP, and the bungles with Vista so far too I guess.

i said this yesterday.....

but noooooOOoooo thats just silly

ffs fckwts!

I highly doubt Microsoft's "Gates" and Ballmer" are losing sleep over this. They know what's going on and my guess is they are trying to keep a low profile. Remember that no one company holds all the cards or has the market cornered on anything. The changes we have seen in the last 25 years will pale in comparison to the next 12-4 years. Were going to see technology move at twice the speed of last 25 years. It's going to be a very fast ride, changes for many companies. But eventually the "Desktop Wars" will fade as we all get used to the ideas of web-based apps, and everything is running on a remote server anywhere in the world and communicating at speeds we have yet to attain. I see it becoming an open source eventually with more services being like Satelite Radio subscriptions. Your device's wont be nothing except a radio transitter, for sending and receiving data to and from the network. Think also on the software as a service concept. Maybe a thin OS, or like Intel's network protocol that boots off the network and not locally.

Thats just me but as broadbad speeds increase, faster mobile access, it's just my two cents but it's coming.

Last edited by NeoFyLe on 24 Mar 2008 - 02:35

Maybe they are but I feel most definitely not more than what Vista is doing to MS's brand reputation.

Hello Every1,

I think Apple should make Mac OS for PC 2.

My PC with:

Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q6600 ( 3.2Ghz Over clocked )
Memory: 4 GB DDR3-1333
Graphics: ATI RaedeonHD3870 X2
Hard disk: 500GB

This system cost me 800 Euro way cheaper than iMAC 1199 Euro ( not even compared to my PC )
My PC is way faster and better graphics's than Macintosh but what i think Mac's OS is better not the system.
So Apple make it for PC trust me u will see lots of people using your OS than now.

BTW my english is very bad i am very sorry.

Regards
Cashtro