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India Rejects Microsoft's OOXML Format

HappyAndyK   on 20 March 2008 - 13:19 · 15 comments & 8332 views

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The BIS LITD 15 Committee has rejected Microsoft's document format OOXML. According to sources, out of 19 members, five of them did not attend the meeting, one of them abstained, five voted in favour of OOXML and the rest voted against. The meeting took place today in Delhi at the BIS office.

Microsoft has released a statement which says, "While we are disappointed with the decision of the BIS LITD 15 committee, we are very encouraged by the support of IT industry players like NASSCOM, TCS, Wipro and Infosys who voted in favour of Open XML becoming an ISO standard. Further, the Indian Government, industry stalwarts and trade bodies have supported multiple standards and technology neutrality. We will therefore continue to work with the Government to address any concerns they may have; and to achieve its stated goal of technology neutrality. We are committed to working towards what is best for the Indian IT industry."

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(3 replies) #1 Azmodan on 20 Mar 2008 - 13:39
I'm tired of this anti-OOXML bashing in Neowin, all I see is a daily hammer against the poorly made document format specification, think how many children in Africa could warm themselves up at night burning the specifications (and there's over a kilo on those books). Please people, THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN IN AFRICA.

Oh, and in a related article, How many defects you can find in OOXML.
#1.1 tiagosilva29 on 20 Mar 2008 - 15:53
What ****s me the most is the trees wasted to print all that crap. THINK ABOUT THE GOD DAMNED TREES!



support of IT industry players like NASSCOM, TCS, Wipro and Infosys who voted in favour of Open XML becoming an ISO standard.

Microsoft parters. Same **** happened in the Portuguese OOXML technical meetings (worse, actually).

Further, the Indian Government, industry stalwarts and trade bodies have supported multiple standards and technology neutrality.

I need Vicodin, and copious amounts of it.
#1.2 +Digix on 20 Mar 2008 - 17:59
in the ethics and morals and point behind the format, india made a good choice. ODF and things like neutral internet are far better idea and friendly for end users. support what's right for everyone. I do give it to microsoft for their enthusiasm and attempts at making several new industry standards but they've blown their whistle when it comes to open standards due to their business and commercialised ethical nature.
#1.3 tuki on 21 Mar 2008 - 06:17
I'm afraid the children of Africa is more of victims of the culture they were born into than this prolonged discussion of Microsoft's new open document standard...
(1 reply) #2 Chrono951 on 20 Mar 2008 - 14:08
I like how 5 people didn't even bother to show up.
#2.1 toadeater on 20 Mar 2008 - 23:22
(Chrono951 said @ #2)
I like how 5 people didn't even bother to show up.


They must think this is the US Congress or something.
(4 replies) #3 Jugalator on 20 Mar 2008 - 14:14
How many times have that format been rejected already...
#3.1 vetneufuse on 20 Mar 2008 - 14:51
(Jugalator said @ #3)
How many times have that format been rejected already...


This is common in standards... reject... revise... reject.. revise... reject.. aprove...
#3.2 MrA on 20 Mar 2008 - 16:31
(neufuse said @ #3.1)
(Jugalator said @ #3)
How many times have that format been rejected already...


This is common in standards... reject... revise... reject.. revise... reject.. aprove...

Except it seems that Microsoft (and the ECMA) is ignoring the whole 'revise' step.
#3.3 +Brandon Live on 21 Mar 2008 - 16:04
(MrA said @ #3.2)
(neufuse said @ #3.1)
(Jugalator said @ #3)
How many times have that format been rejected already...


This is common in standards... reject... revise... reject.. revise... reject.. aprove...

Except it seems that Microsoft (and the ECMA) is ignoring the whole 'revise' step.


Since when?
#3.4 Azmodan on 22 Mar 2008 - 13:49
(Brandon Live said @ #3.3)
(MrA said @ #3.2)
(neufuse said @ #3.1)
(Jugalator said @ #3)
How many times have that format been rejected already...


This is common in standards... reject... revise... reject.. revise... reject.. aprove...

Except it seems that Microsoft (and the ECMA) is ignoring the whole 'revise' step.


Since when?


Since they've been revising their pockets.
(1 reply) #4 HalcyonX12 on 20 Mar 2008 - 23:29
This whole submission by MS is pretty ridiculous, couldn't they come up with something that would be the undisputed best implementation? They make MS Office, which a lot of people seem to use and which covers a huge area of business productivity software (including companion software), they don't have the expertise to clearly define a format that would be useful in this circumstance and also to address any issues people may have? Also once MS submits it to become a standard, it's not really up to them what goes in it. You can't tell me you aren't going to have to make a few compromises if you try to please every nation in the world. Besides, it's not like just anyone can meddle with the standards, it has to be accepted by everyone and follow the rules of the committee that had been previously agreed upon, so the results will be all for the better.
#4.1 +Brandon Live on 21 Mar 2008 - 16:09
But that's exactly what they're doing. Making compromises, addressing concerns. They aren't saying "approve this as is."

Clearly they are trying to move things along, as they're playing catch-up to formats that have had much longer to mature. Simply using one of those formats is an option in theory, but in practice - not something that Word or Excel could be updated to support in a reasonable amount of time. Imagine if the Office team spent years and came up with an Office 2010 release in which the only new feature was support for a different XML document format. I don't think that would sell particularly well. Further, other formats lack important features used by Office, so you'd have to go through the same process of extending them, and in some cases losing functionality because the standard was developed to target a product with a small feature scope.

#5 Jack 0Neill on 21 Mar 2008 - 16:14
Now we can reject outsourcing of jobs to people in India and give them back to the American people who need jobs.
#6 xpclient on 23 Mar 2008 - 20:18
Good to see however that the IT companies support it. Probably those 15 committee members don't understand how MS Office (what they use widespread here in India) can save everything to ODF without any loss of functionality. Or perhaps they're allied to FSF India.

Last edited by xpclient on 23 Mar 2008 - 20:23

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