Flaws found in Safari browser for Windows
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#1 Posted by RAID 0 on 27 Mar 2008 - 01:27
- Juan Pablo Lopez Yacubian
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#1.1 Posted by excalpius on 27 Mar 2008 - 16:29
- The best thing about a new security flaw in Safari for Windows is that Apple just pushed the browser to every Windows user. If I was a hacker, I'd be all over Safari security flaws now. No reason to do that when only 4% of users had it, but now we have exploitable vulnerabilities across 99% of all end users worldwide...sigh.
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#2 Posted by LTD on 27 Mar 2008 - 01:38
- OK.
Seems every browser out there has flaws. Good for Juan for finding these two particular ones. -
#2.2 Posted by whocares78 on 27 Mar 2008 - 03:00
- wow you admitted apple has flaws, i am in shock....
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#3 Posted by tsupersonic on 27 Mar 2008 - 01:44
- Safari = :yawn:
Possibly the worst.browser.ever (IMO). Slow, bloated, memory hog, some pages don't work right, security flaws since 3.0 beta, etc, etc. I could go on and on and tell you why this shouldn't be your day to day browser. -
#3.1 Posted by cyberdrone2000 on 27 Mar 2008 - 02:17
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SafariInternet Explorer = :yawn:
Possibly the worst.browser.ever (IMO). Slow, bloated, memory hog, some pages don't work right, security flaws since 3.0 beta, etc, etc. I could go on and on and tell you why this shouldn't be your day to day browser.
Fixed that for ya.
Have you even tried Safari 3.1? The speed and stability since 3.0 Beta is MUCH improved, and it's memory usage is comparable to Firefox 2 on launch, and remains stable throughout use, unlike Firefox 2 and the horrible memory leaks.
As a web developer, I use Safari as my primary browser, and Firefox, Opera, and IE 6 & 7 for testing. Despite slightly fuzzy fonts, it's the fastest browser of them all. -
#3.2 Posted by tsupersonic on 27 Mar 2008 - 04:52
- (cyberdrone2000 said @ #3.1)LOL, are you joking?(tsupersonic said @ #1)
SafariInternet Explorer = :yawn:
Possibly the worst.browser.ever (IMO). Slow, bloated, memory hog, some pages don't work right, security flaws since 3.0 beta, etc, etc. I could go on and on and tell you why this shouldn't be your day to day browser.
Fixed that for ya.
Have you even tried Safari 3.1? The speed and stability since 3.0 Beta is MUCH improved, and it's memory usage is comparable to Firefox 2 on launch, and remains stable throughout use, unlike Firefox 2 and the horrible memory leaks.
As a web developer, I use Safari as my primary browser, and Firefox, Opera, and IE 6 & 7 for testing. Despite slightly fuzzy fonts, it's the fastest browser of them all.
NOTHING and I mean NOTHING can even remotely touch Opera in terms of browsing speed. The interface in Safari is nowhere as responsive as Opera or Firefox.
Of course I've tried Safari 3.1 (thanks to Apple's genius software updater). Speed, browsing wise is pretty slow. Mind you, I'm on a college connection (I got 92,000 kb/s at speedtest.net). Firefox has horrible memory leaks, yes. Every browser uses upwards of 100MB on a daily surf session. Opera, I found is the least memory hogging browser.
There's only one reason why Safari was released on Windows. It's for web developers (and iPhone). It's great if you're developing websites and want to see what they would look like in Safari, but for everyday browsing, Safari is a very bad browser imo. I know most of my mac friends don't even use Safari, they all prefer Firefox over it. -
#3.3 Posted by cork1958 on 27 Mar 2008 - 12:49
- (tsupersonic said @ #3.2)(cyberdrone2000 said @ #3.1)LOL, are you joking?(tsupersonic said @ #1)
SafariInternet Explorer = :yawn:
Possibly the worst.browser.ever (IMO). Slow, bloated, memory hog, some pages don't work right, security flaws since 3.0 beta, etc, etc. I could go on and on and tell you why this shouldn't be your day to day browser.
Fixed that for ya.
Have you even tried Safari 3.1? The speed and stability since 3.0 Beta is MUCH improved, and it's memory usage is comparable to Firefox 2 on launch, and remains stable throughout use, unlike Firefox 2 and the horrible memory leaks.
As a web developer, I use Safari as my primary browser, and Firefox, Opera, and IE 6 & 7 for testing. Despite slightly fuzzy fonts, it's the fastest browser of them all.
NOTHING and I mean NOTHING can even remotely touch Opera in terms of browsing speed. The interface in Safari is nowhere as responsive as Opera or Firefox.
Of course I've tried Safari 3.1 (thanks to Apple's genius software updater). Speed, browsing wise is pretty slow. Mind you, I'm on a college connection (I got 92,000 kb/s at speedtest.net). Firefox has horrible memory leaks, yes. Every browser uses upwards of 100MB on a daily surf session. Opera, I found is the least memory hogging browser.
There's only one reason why Safari was released on Windows. It's for web developers (and iPhone). It's great if you're developing websites and want to see what they would look like in Safari, but for everyday browsing, Safari is a very bad browser imo. I know most of my mac friends don't even use Safari, they all prefer Firefox over it.
You know,
I never thought any browser would ever compare to Operas speed, but I've been using Safari since the last notice of it here on Neowin, and it EASILY blows Opera away. Have not had a single issue with it either. Does use slightly more memory then my IE6 or Seamonkey 1.1.18, but not by much.
The only thing not to like about Safari so far, is the lack of an adblocker and that goofy bookmark setup. I DO like the nice simple gui too. Screw eye candy!!
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#4 Posted by Atreus on 27 Mar 2008 - 01:45
- Any way Safari 3.1 for windows has very Nescape ~1998 felling to it.
And I like it. Especially after Firefox crashed 5 time today after todays update to 2.0.0.13..
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#5 Posted by
neufuse on 27 Mar 2008 - 03:10
- Flaws in an Apple product? *gasp* never Apple told me so!.....
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#5.1 Posted by +Brandon Live on 27 Mar 2008 - 03:39
- Apple, meet internet.
Internet, meet Apple. Be gentle, they're new around here.
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#7 Posted by HalcyonX12 on 27 Mar 2008 - 03:24
- The biggest flaw is that it may misrepresent a trusted site, yeah it's a problem but it's not like it runs remote code or something.
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#7.1 Posted by +Brandon Live on 27 Mar 2008 - 03:38
- Yeah, because running remote code is the end of the world, but having my bank account stolen is so such a superficial thing to be concerned about
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#7.2 Posted by HalcyonX12 on 27 Mar 2008 - 10:36
- (Brandon Live said @ #7.1)Yeah, because running remote code is the end of the world, but having my bank account stolen is so such a superficial thing to be concerned about
I guess any browser flaw is critical. Might as well browse with Lynx!
Last edited by HalcyonX12 on 27 Mar 2008 - 15:33
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#8 Posted by ThaCrip on 27 Mar 2008 - 03:54
- i been using Firefox 3 BETA 4 and it's memory usage seems much better than Firefox 2's.
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#8.2 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 27 Mar 2008 - 16:14
- Thirded, though it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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#9 Posted by Fabeme on 27 Mar 2008 - 08:33
- The interesting thing will be Apple's response time (in term of patching, not : we are the best even if we are flooded mantra) to this...
Anyway, every software have and will have flaws. What makes the difference is the response time, linked to the gravity of the flaw, and the quality of the patch.
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#10 Posted by Albert on 27 Mar 2008 - 08:51
- getting the apple-idiots money siphon off their online banking experience, while they are still oohing and aahing over the purty interface ... nice going, apple. you have hit the dumb-jackpot yet again.
the fact that safari lack security (to the extend that paypal recommend their end user not to use it) will probably be a teeney-weeny issue to these apple-idiots because they like the purty interface ...
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#11 Posted by pyehac on 27 Mar 2008 - 09:04
- First iTunes, now Safari. Apple: Just release Mac OS for PCs already!
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#12 Posted by oufc_gav on 27 Mar 2008 - 10:45
- Well, as the license agreement for Safari for Windows says "this license allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple software on a single Apple-labeled computer", surely all versions installed on Windows PCs are breaking license anyway so it's not a problem ;-)
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#14 Posted by Pupik on 27 Mar 2008 - 11:02
- Wake me up when this flaw will hit some browser, that people actually use.
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#15 Posted by C_Guy on 27 Mar 2008 - 14:52
- Wow, even the Apple folk aren't surprised by this. Now THAT is news!
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#16 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 27 Mar 2008 - 16:15
- I used Safari for Windows a few months back. Was a truly horrible experience. Hope it's gotten better since then.
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#18 Posted by Tzimisce on 27 Mar 2008 - 20:43
- when i tried safari i didn't even bother to uninstall it normally, i did a system restore to make sure no part of it ever returned. Now I DO use firefox on a day-to-day basis, and i know why i have memory problems, most browsers probably don't like 30 windows open 24/7 to begin with!
This essentially means that even though you see a trusted URL in the browser address bar, the web page could be displaying unauthorized content that could put your PC at risk.