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Sony/BMG Under Investigation for Software Piracy

artnada   via Wired on 02 April 2008 - 13:44 · 37 comments & 16317 views

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A small software company has accused major label Sony/BMG of software piracy, in a reversal of the normal orientation of piracy cases between major labels and the rest of the world.

PointDev, which makes Windows administration software, claims that a raid on Sony/BMG servers revealed that as much as 47 percent of the software used by the company can be considered to have been pirated under French law, according to Zeropaid's Google translation of the initial report:

We are not interested in an amicable settlement. It is not just a question of money but more importantly in principle. The rate of software piracy in the company is very high. According to the Business Software Alliance, a association of the major publishers in the market, 47 percent of programs used in the company would be [unlawful] in France...

Link: Full Article @ Wired

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#1 mattm591 on 02 Apr 2008 - 13:51
oh dear oh dear!
(2 replies) #2 ahhell on 02 Apr 2008 - 13:55
Karma is a bitch.
#2.1 Magallanes on 02 Apr 2008 - 16:39
#2.2 Tha Bloo Monkee on 02 Apr 2008 - 16:45
(2 replies) #3 X'tyfe on 02 Apr 2008 - 13:56
hold up a sec, these are the guys who cry when we download music? LOL?
they have now lost all credibility
#3.1 TRC on 02 Apr 2008 - 15:54
Did they ever have any? I think the rootkit thing pretty much took care of that.
#3.2 brent3000 on 02 Apr 2008 - 20:26
^^^^^^^^^^^^

thats what i was thinking
(11 replies) #4 Brandon on 02 Apr 2008 - 14:01
Pwnd
#4.1 C_Guy on 02 Apr 2008 - 14:38
Read the article again. The software is NOT owned, it is pirated.

Learn some English.
#4.2 n_K on 02 Apr 2008 - 14:59
(C_Guy said @ #4.1)
Read the article again. The software is NOT owned, it is pirated.

Learn some English.

I'm guessing he meant sony got owned, as in humilated and is now the `jokes on you` company for a while
#4.3 sbauer on 02 Apr 2008 - 15:13
(C_Guy said @ #4.1)
Read the article again. The software is NOT owned, it is pirated.

Learn some English.


Haha. Wow. That's all I have to say.
#4.4 Tha Bloo Monkee on 02 Apr 2008 - 15:50
(C_Guy said @ #4.1)
Read the article again. The software is NOT owned, it is pirated.

Learn some English.

You can't be serious. :|
Take some of your own medicine, and learn some English, k?
#4.5 TRC on 02 Apr 2008 - 15:55
I think C_Guy just got Pwnd.
#4.6 Fergie on 02 Apr 2008 - 16:28
(C_Guy said @ #4.1)
Read the article again. The software is NOT owned, it is pirated.

Learn some English.

haha omg. you learn english
#4.7 Tha Bloo Monkee on 02 Apr 2008 - 16:41
(TRC said @ #4.5)
I think C_Guy just got Pwnd.

Not Pwnd. Pirated.
#4.8 C_Guy on 02 Apr 2008 - 21:07
It's sad how few people get jokes.
#4.9 sbauer on 02 Apr 2008 - 22:11
(C_Guy said @ #4.
It's sad how few people get jokes.


Nice cover-up attempt. A for effort.
#4.10 chilliadus on 03 Apr 2008 - 06:26
(C_Guy said @ #4.
It's sad how few people get jokes.


If people didn't get a joke, it usually is the problem of the joke teller.
#4.11 Esvandiary on 03 Apr 2008 - 09:58
(chilliadus said @ #4.10)
If people didn't get a joke, it usually is the problem of the joke teller.

Not in this case... I'm quite shocked at how many people's heads that one flew over!

I loved it
(2 replies) #5 +Hell-In-A-Handbasket on 02 Apr 2008 - 14:04
im not familiar with French software laws, why would they be unlawful in France

other then that how can it " Be considerd " it either is or isnt
#5.1 este on 02 Apr 2008 - 15:36
unlawful or not, a professional company should never be affiliated to anything illegal or pirated. simple as that.
#5.2 +Hell-In-A-Handbasket on 02 Apr 2008 - 20:26
*edit* seems what this story omits is that when sony called for tech support and they realized that it was activated with a pirated key,, ether Sony held the original Key that leaked, or has the pirated key is what their investigating it seems

(este said @ #5.1)
unlawful or not, a professional company should never be affiliated to anything illegal or pirated. simple as that.


Last edited by Hell-In-A-Handbasket on 02 Apr 2008 - 20:35
#6 +M2Ys4U on 02 Apr 2008 - 14:29
Oh win.
#7 n_K on 02 Apr 2008 - 14:59
Hey I got a new slogan for Sony:
Your torrents, Our High-speed internet
haha, losers
#8 Sazz181 on 02 Apr 2008 - 16:46
Oh, well. Isn't that ironic?
#9 Zilos on 02 Apr 2008 - 17:02
Perhaps they hadn't bought enough licenses for the software?
(1 reply) #10 +Zhivago on 02 Apr 2008 - 18:38
They should audit Microsoft and Apple too, and most importantly RIAA/MPAA!
#10.1 n_K on 02 Apr 2008 - 21:56
(Zhivago said @ #10)
They should audit Microsoft and Apple too, and most importantly RIAA/MPAA!

The annoying thing is that MPAA/RIAA have legal products they buy from the money they make out of sueing people, when mediadefender got hacked, it pretty much made sure that all licenses they had for some pie chart software got blacklisted lol, if I'm honest I torrented one of the keys, they can come after me if they prove they have copyright over a string XD
#11 Khirzask on 02 Apr 2008 - 18:57
This is full of win.
(2 replies) #12 Roger MS on 02 Apr 2008 - 19:40
This story is commonly referred to as "sensationalist reporting".

1) They used a Google translator for the story's hot point. Get a warm body that knows the language before you publish.
2) A quick search reveals a single program supposedly pirated by Sony. If 47% of the software they are using is pirated, where is BSA's long list of the other pirated software that Sony is using?
3) Four servers were taken out of rotation and seized, due exclusively to having Ideal Migration installed. All other machines, which should have the other "supposed" 40% of pirated software, are apparently still in use by Sony employees.
4) French companies, as a whole, has a 47% piracy rate. This is about average, and has been a well-known statistic for years. Here is the direct quote from zeropaid (from which Wired's article references):
Essentially, the PointDev CEO says that the BSA has said that French Corporations have a software piracy rate of 47%.

Yes, the Google translation claims he's talking about Sony, while the person typing on the keyboard claims he's talking about the entire country. Do you really believe Sony pirates half of the software they use on a day-to-day basis?

Surprisingly, The Inquirer is less sensationalistic and more realistic in their reporting of the situation.
#12.1 Nose Nuggets on 02 Apr 2008 - 23:35
(Roger MS said @ #12)
This story is commonly referred to as "sensationalist reporting".

1) They used a Google translator for the story's hot point. Get a warm body that knows the language before you publish.
2) A quick search reveals a single program supposedly pirated by Sony. If 47% of the software they are using is pirated, where is BSA's long list of the other pirated software that Sony is using?
3) Four servers were taken out of rotation and seized, due exclusively to having Ideal Migration installed. All other machines, which should have the other "supposed" 40% of pirated software, are apparently still in use by Sony employees.
4) French companies, as a whole, has a 47% piracy rate. This is about average, and has been a well-known statistic for years. Here is the direct quote from zeropaid (from which Wired's article references):
Essentially, the PointDev CEO says that the BSA has said that French Corporations have a software piracy rate of 47%.

Yes, the Google translation claims he's talking about Sony, while the person typing on the keyboard claims he's talking about the entire country. Do you really believe Sony pirates half of the software they use on a day-to-day basis?

Surprisingly, The Inquirer is less sensationalistic and more realistic in their reporting of the situation.


well done!
#12.2 SniperX on 03 Apr 2008 - 08:06
You come around here with your common sense ways, rational thinking, and pursuit of truth. Now you've spoilt it for all the regulars! Shame on you!
#13 soldier1st on 02 Apr 2008 - 20:34
sony is crap,hopefuly this will get them offa there carcasses and do something.
#14 ThePitt on 02 Apr 2008 - 21:40
lol
(1 reply) #15 exotoxic on 02 Apr 2008 - 21:57
id like to see other caompanies that campaign against piracy investigated too
#15.1 cork1958 on 03 Apr 2008 - 12:03
I'd like to see EVERYBODY investigated too, but that ain't happening!!
#16 +RuudJacobs.NET on 02 Apr 2008 - 22:55
I hope that this piracy nonsense is finally over now...

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