Microsoft Appeals Patent Ruling
Posted by Bezhou Feng on 06 April 2008 - 04:24 · 10 comments & 5144 views
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#1 Posted by boho on 06 Apr 2008 - 07:52
- I doubt that Alcatel will turn into "cheese eatings surrender monkeys" they need all the cash they can get, while loosing money hand over fist! Keep digging about in the patents portfolio The downturn has only just started showing it's face in Europe, but we are starting to see doom and gloom. "The West" is in for some tough times ahead (apart from lawyers).
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#2 Posted by Chicane-UK on 06 Apr 2008 - 08:03
- Terrorists don't need to do anything to bring about the fall of Western civilisation - we'll do it ourselves with our pathetic bickering and endless quest for greed. I'd stand around and laugh if it wasn't so tragic, and likely to directly impact my own life.
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#3 Posted by toadeater on 06 Apr 2008 - 08:10
- Maybe Microsoft should just buy them, like they buy everything else they can't beat?
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#3.1 Posted by +GreyWolfSC on 06 Apr 2008 - 15:49
- (toadeater said @ #3)Maybe Microsoft should just buy them, like they buy everything else they can't beat?
There is nothing to 'beat.' Lucent has gone from being a high-technology innovator to patent trolls. It's their own fault for overspending, hiring poor management and thinking that just because they were on top they would stay there.
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#4 Posted by
neufuse on 06 Apr 2008 - 13:46
- infringed on a way you select calendar dates from a menu? wtf? how in the freaking world are we supose to develop software anymore? It seems like every freaking process has a patent behind it... and someone like me who DOESNT READ PATENTS for a living how in the world are we supose to know if something we are doing which we assume is just something we designed isnt' already patented? I mean we made a scheduleing app at work, heck it probably violates that pattend right off!...... this is just getting to be BS... concepts shouldn't be patentable.. you sould only be able to patent actual inventions... and selecting a calendar date from a menu is not an invention... hey guess what I pantented a method where you handle an error after 10 lines of code inside a try catch block which writes the error to a db... now I am going to go sue anyone who writes an error handler app that has exactly 10 lines of code inside a try catch block and saves the error message...... this kinda stuff is BS
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#5 Posted by nunjabusiness on 06 Apr 2008 - 14:49
- I agree 100% on the sad state of perceived and actual IP. The dividing line has become rather blurry due to excessively liberal court rulings and vagaries in patent law.
I think Alcatel is just another example of a badly managed company snatching at whatever threads it thinks it sees to escape the sinking ship it has become. Of course, if you are going to tilt at windmills, you may as well tilt at the big ones!
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#6 Posted by HalcyonX12 on 06 Apr 2008 - 15:30
- In the IP wars only the lawyers win...
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#7 Posted by James812 on 06 Apr 2008 - 19:52
- "including the Outlook e-mail application and the Windows Mobile operating system, infringed on an Alcatel-Lucent patent in the way users select calendar dates from a menu"
Are you kidding me? The way you click calendar dates from a menu. How do these patents become approved! I swear people can create general patents like ...how users click to open something else. So general yet they could probally get a patent for it anyways. What people and companys can get patented is so stupid.
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#8 Posted by C_Guy on 07 Apr 2008 - 15:26
- "We do not believe the jury's verdict against Microsoft...is supported by the facts or the law"
As with most cases against Microsoft, this is just another cash grab, and a waste of Microsoft's time and money.
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#9 Posted by Roscomac on 08 Apr 2008 - 07:16
- You're kidding right - this is typical Microsoft behaviour and goes way back to such cases as the Stacker Disk compression algorithm that the courts ruled somehow mysteriously ended up in Dos 6.
When Microsoft had finished appealing the case that Stack ultimately won thru the courts the company was valueless. I am not saying this is gospel but the word was that Microsoft simply bought all Stack stocks before the final ruling, which they lost and so, even though losing a hefty lawsuit they simply paid a now subsidiary of Microsoft the settlement, ie they paid themselves, and wound up the shell company that was left as the wreck.
The computing world used to be a diverse environment before Microsoft started destroying competitors - this cannot be denied - there are several rulings against Microsoft which stood against Microsoft's ruthless appeals.
No smoke without fire.
Haven't you guys heard about Bill's emails submitted as evidence when he was CEO ?
He didn't resign as CEO for no reason - He was forced to under threat of savage legal sanctions against Microsoft. He loved running the day to day business and beating competitors - it's just some of his methods were successfully challenged in court.
None of thes actions were frivilous - at least several very senior judges in various countries did not think s and they had the facts.
Unfortunately, most companies of the 80's or 90's couldn't protect themselves against a company with as much money and aggression as Microsoft.
"We do not believe the jury's verdict against Microsoft on the two user interface patents is supported by the facts or the law," said Tom Burt, a deputy general counsel at Microsoft, in a statement. "We will move immediately to have the two verdicts against Microsoft overturned."