Europe rejects anti-piracy plans

#1 +mad_onion on 12 Apr 2008 - 20:56

yes we know this has been in back page news for a while. but clearly people don't check there.

but um yeah, this is good

#2 Nexx295 on 12 Apr 2008 - 21:01

If these laws wouldn't have been rejected, I assume that they would have to throw off the net over 80% of private users.

(2 replies) #3 Roscomac on 12 Apr 2008 - 21:07

I do not support bans and censorship imposed by vested interests so I totally support this move. We supposedly have laws and law enforcement to deal with people who breach them but vested interests are never satisfied with this - they always want extreme punitive measures, especially when they consider that they may lose a $.

Human rights and liberty before profit any day - anything else smacks of the worst extremes of Hitler, Stalin and the like.

#3.1 Foub on 12 Apr 2008 - 21:26

It is ironic than that now it is the capitalists who threaten freedom, and rights, the most.....

#3.2 X'tyfe on 12 Apr 2008 - 22:07

(Roscomac said @ #1)

Human rights and liberty before profit any day - anything else smacks of the worst extremes of Hitler, Stalin and the like.

the hell hole we call a world could be saved if everyone thought like that

(Foub said @ #2)

It is ironic than that now it is the capitalists who threaten freedom, and rights, the most.....

so very true

#4 The2 on 12 Apr 2008 - 22:06

Internet is dead without freedom

#5 zeta_immersion on 12 Apr 2008 - 22:27

internet is freedom, don't like it don't use it ... then again ... YOU pay for a service and what do THEY do? ... impose limits, cut you down ... f@uck you all around just because THEY want to make more money off you ... nah man... this will not stand ... someone out there will think of something and eventually will bring down these stupid aristocrats

(3 replies) #6 Tikitiki on 12 Apr 2008 - 22:45

I think they've got their priorities screwed up. They are willing to go ban people who pirate programs from the internet, but hackers and servers that harvest spam and steal your credit cards are still getting away just fine? Something seems wrong to me.

#6.1 Burst404 on 12 Apr 2008 - 23:14

(Tikitiki said @ #6)

I think they've got their priorities screwed up. They are willing to go ban people who pirate programs from the internet, but hackers and servers that harvest spam and steal your credit cards are still getting away just fine? Something seems wrong to me.

100% Agreed.

#6.2 ajua on 13 Apr 2008 - 00:20

+1

These kind of persons/groups should be targeted in a more strict way that companies target average users. This way maybe we can see somehow a drop down on id theft, credit card stealings, spams, scams, etc.

#6.3 jwjw1 on 13 Apr 2008 - 03:00

(ajua said @ #6.2)

+1

These kind of persons/groups should be targeted in a more strict way that companies target average users. This way maybe we can see somehow a drop down on id theft, credit card stealings, spams, scams, etc.

and target countries that pirate Microsofts Bank Account too!

(2 replies) #7 MulletRobZ on 13 Apr 2008 - 00:56

The EU may have its controversies, but kudos for them on rejecting such anti-piracy plans! Maybe they should send some representatives to hijack the RIAA, MPAA, BSA, and the US Congress, LOL!

#7.1 jwjw1 on 14 Apr 2008 - 11:47

is there anything 'copyrighted' in europe worth pirating? If the world was digging into the pockets of europeans, maybe they would have a different view...is there any statics breakdown to what country such copyrighted materail comes from...

#7.2 Jugalator on 15 Apr 2008 - 07:14

(jwjw1 said @ #7.1)

is there anything 'copyrighted' in europe worth pirating?

Are you serious? Take the European music industry for one thing.

(1 reply) #8 kalkal on 13 Apr 2008 - 02:01

Is Virgin still going ahead with it's anti-piracy trial then?

#8.1 InsaneNutter on 13 Apr 2008 - 13:44

Apparently there denying it now: http://torrentfreak.com/virgin-media-denie...pirates-080403/

However this article before stated: http://torrentfreak.com/isp-to-voluntarily...nternet-080331/

"The ISP will be rolling out a new newsgroup service for its subscribers which should be ready in the next couple of months. Using the Highwinds server banks, the service will offer 7 days retention on the all important binary newsgroups... Not to mention super high speed access to all the movies, music and software anyone could ever need, with no fear that the BPI, RIAA or IFPI can snoop on the transfers."

I find it kind of stupid they will disconnect users for downloading copyrighted stuff then create a free newsgroup service so people can download without the BPI, RIAA or IFPI spying on them

(1 reply) #9 C_Guy on 14 Apr 2008 - 15:12

Pirates win again! Basically, if you can get away with stealing, do it. The law (apparently) will protect you, not copyright holders.

Good job, Europe, good job. Are you thinking up your next wad of crap to throw at successful American companies yet or do you still have some of Microsoft's money around?

#9.1 dangel on 15 Apr 2008 - 14:57

(C_Guy said @ #9)

Pirates win again! Basically, if you can get away with stealing, do it. The law (apparently) will protect you, not copyright holders.

Good job, Europe, good job. Are you thinking up your next wad of crap to throw at successful American companies yet or do you still have some of Microsoft's money around?

Thanks for the xenophobic comment there - but the reality is somewhat different. Here in the UK the Music and Film industry basically want this to bypass the court system, after all, this costs them money and they've got to provide annoying little things like evidence of your misdeeds. Under the new system they'll simply say you're 'suspected' of doing wrong and after a third time you're out. Brilliant. Can't see any possibility of abuse there then.. I mean, it's not like they've ever wrongly accused anybody now is it?

Ah.

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