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Microsoft: We're serious about Internet safety and privacy

Steven Parker   on 14 April 2008 - 14:06 · 15 comments & 10843 views

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At RSA Conference 2008, Craig Mundie, Microsoft's Chief Research and Strategy Officer, announced his company's "End to End Trust vision," which aims to give users more control over what is trustworthy online. Microsoft published a white paper describing the initiative and the concept of a "trusted stack" where each element – including the operating system, applications, people and data – can be authenticated and is trustworthy.

The company has also created a forum for those interested in discussing security and privacy on the Internet in general. In a statement, Mundie said that the end goal of the proposal is "a more secure and trustworthy Internet, but it’s also important that we give people the tools that empower them to make good trust choices. End to End Trust will enable new opportunities for collaboration on solutions to social, political, economic and technical issues that will have a long-term impact on Internet security and privacy."

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(6 replies) #1 +warwagon on 14 Apr 2008 - 14:08
It took them a few years, but I think they finally get it.

Now its apples turn.
#1.1 EduardValencia on 14 Apr 2008 - 14:38
Yes microsoft has made many efforts improving the security in their products,and the finally made it in my opinion,however 3rd party applications can "still"compromise a MS OS based PC unfortunately.

However MS should force,3rd party application companies to enforce much greater security on their products,if this is accomplished Windows will be the most trusy platform ever built (With the anger of the linux and apple comunity in my neck :sleeping

Cuddos for Microsoft,and keep the good work!

#1.2 +Kushan on 14 Apr 2008 - 15:23
(EduardValencia said @ #1.1)
Yes microsoft has made many efforts improving the security in their products,and the finally made it in my opinion,however 3rd party applications can "still"compromise a MS OS based PC unfortunately.

However MS should force,3rd party application companies to enforce much greater security on their products,if this is accomplished Windows will be the most trusy platform ever built (With the anger of the linux and apple comunity in my neck :sleeping

Cuddos for Microsoft,and keep the good work!


This is true, but unfortunately you can't really do much about that without seriously locking down the application (And probably breaking it in the process). But Microsoft is doing their best to try and get people to understand the importance of not constantly running as an administrator on a PC.
The only real thing I think they could have done better was maybe make Vista explain to them better why there's such a difference and make it create a "limited" account by default.
UAC should then only pop up on these "Limited" accounts when an application requires admin rights. As far as I know, that's how it works in Linux anyway.
#1.3 MioTheGreat on 14 Apr 2008 - 15:54
(Kushan said @ #1.2)
The only real thing I think they could have done better was maybe make Vista explain to them better why there's such a difference and make it create a "limited" account by default.
UAC should then only pop up on these "Limited" accounts when an application requires admin rights. As far as I know, that's how it works in Linux anyway.


I always assumed that UAC would be a baby step to an out of the box limitted user configuration in a future (Possibly 7 or its successor) release.
#1.4 vetmarkjensen on 14 Apr 2008 - 19:08
(EduardValencia said @ #1.1)
... Windows will be the most trusy platform ever built (With the anger of the linux and apple comunity in my neck
...
Windows becoming better at security doesn't anger the Linux community. I am glad they brought user account separation to home users with XP. Then realized their mistake with so many ports open and listening and no firewall by default, which was fixed with XPSP1. Vista brings some more improvements.

This certainly doesn't make me angry.
#1.5 LTD on 14 Apr 2008 - 19:14
(EduardValencia said @ #1.1)
Yes microsoft has made many efforts improving the security in their products,and the finally made it in my opinion,however 3rd party applications can "still"compromise a MS OS based PC unfortunately.

However MS should force,3rd party application companies to enforce much greater security on their products,if this is accomplished Windows will be the most trusy platform ever built (With the anger of the linux and apple comunity in my neck :sleeping

Cuddos for Microsoft,and keep the good work!


Why would Apple and Linux users be angry about this? I really don't care one way or the other, but a company's commitment to better security is always a good thing. At least in principle.

And in terms of Windows being the most "trusty" (secure?) platform, it's shaping up well finally, but that remains to be seen. Time will tell.
#1.6 toadeater on 14 Apr 2008 - 23:47
Is Microsoft willing to go on record right now and say they do not spy on users in any way?

I didn't think so!

Does Microsoft track search activity? YES.
Does Microsoft track software usage? YES.
Does Microsoft track Windows Update usage? YES.
Does Microsoft log IPs, MACs, and SIDs? YES.

DOES MICROSOFT SPY ON YOU? YES!


When are you going to stop lying, Microsoft?

Last edited by toadeater on 16 Apr 2008 - 01:21
(2 replies) #2 C_Guy on 14 Apr 2008 - 15:24
When were they not? Security has been Microsoft's top priority for a long time now.
#2.1 LTD on 14 Apr 2008 - 17:25
Since Windows XP SP2.
#2.2 +Shadrack on 14 Apr 2008 - 22:20
Please define a 'long time now.' My memory is the same as LTDs and it seems to me like they weren't that concerned with it prior to Windows XP SP2. I guess 4 years is a long time to some of you young guys.
(2 replies) #3 X'tyfe on 14 Apr 2008 - 19:36
this is very bad news for everybody

people may have forgotten a little thing called "trusted computing" or "palladium" as its called by microsoft
i suggest you all research these things before you all jump around saying they are doing a good job

dont believe a word these suits say, they are full of crap

its a major attack on computing as we know it, it will rob you of your freedoms of how you use your own computer and the internet. i highly suggest watching this http://www.lafkon.net/tc/
#3.1 LTD on 14 Apr 2008 - 19:45
So:

"Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither"

?
#3.2 C_Guy on 14 Apr 2008 - 21:47
Quick, everyone, jump on the paranoia wagon!!!!

This site came out a long time ago and fails to even answer the question of what Trusted Computing is.

But let's all be paranoid and assume (you know what happens when you assume) that the "suits are full of crap" but the paranoid people who threw together the website are geniuses.
#4 Tha Bloo Monkee on 15 Apr 2008 - 03:49
I'm sorry, upon reading the title this is what came to mind:

#5 HalcyonX12 on 15 Apr 2008 - 15:03
I'm just glad they finally realized that internet safety and privacy is important.

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