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Two held over undersea cable damage

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 14 April 2008 - 12:00 · 24 comments & 10066 views

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Two ships have been impounded in Dubai after satellite images indicated that they may have been responsible for the damage to undersea cables which left large parts of the Middle East without proper internet access. Reliance Globalcom, which owns the cables, used satellite photos to identify the MV Hounslow and MV Ann as being the most likely culprits and stopped the ships in Dubai.

One of the ships has now been released after the Korean owners agreed to pay compensation. But two sailors on the second Iraqi-owned ship may now face trial. "The matter has been brought to the notice of appropriate authorities which are taking necessary action," a Reliance Globalcom official told The Hindu.

The loss of the cables caused internet access in some countries to slow by as much as 80 per cent, and harmed performance at call centres in Egypt to the extent that the state telecoms company asked ordinary users to stay offline.

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(4 replies) #1 morphen on 14 Apr 2008 - 12:33
Had this been the undersea cable that connected the US to other countries, and it had been the same ships, Bush would have screamed out about "terrorists" again, and spent another xxx billion dollars on another attack :p
#1.1 bits on 14 Apr 2008 - 13:23
There is many links between USA and other countries. Many cable paths to Japan, Europe, Australia/Hawaii/New Zealand etc. And these paths go down from time to time due to damage from anchors. It's never a big issue but the companies do like to figure out who did it so they can pay.
#1.2 Dakkaroth on 14 Apr 2008 - 16:18
(morphen said @ #1)
Had this been the undersea cable that connected the US to other countries, and it had been the same ships, Bush would have screamed out about "terrorists" again, and spent another xxx billion dollars on another attack :p


And we'd let him too.
#1.3 rpgfan on 14 Apr 2008 - 21:43
(morphen said @ #1)
Had this been the undersea cable that connected the US to other countries, and it had been the same ships, Bush would have screamed out about "terrorists" again, and spent another xxx billion dollars on another attack :p

Don't forget the issues that America has with China. "It's a plot to cut off our Internets communications systems! We're going to be bombed nukularly!!!" *baby starts crying*

<sarcasm>Yep... China's really trying to start stuff...</sarcasm>
#1.4 MadDog on 15 Apr 2008 - 21:39
That's just funny... I was going to reply with a sarcastic "I blame Bush" since there was some reference to Iraq, but it looks like someone with an ill-fitting tin hat already has, but in all seriousness.
(2 replies) #2 jwjw1 on 14 Apr 2008 - 13:16
But two sailors on the second Iraqi-owned ship may now face trial.

its easier to cut these heads off than it is for someone from Korea....LOL
#2.1 thornz0 on 14 Apr 2008 - 13:52
(jwjw1 said @ #1)
But two sailors on the second Iraqi-owned ship may now face trial.

its easier to cut these heads off than it is for someone from Korea....LOL

why is that funny...?
#2.2 Nose Nuggets on 14 Apr 2008 - 16:11
why is that funny...?


i was kind of wondering the same thing.
(4 replies) #3 mocax on 14 Apr 2008 - 14:17
Why don't they move the cables deeper?

#3.1 bits on 14 Apr 2008 - 14:46
Boats dont anchor by floating the anchor in the water... the aim is to get it to the bottom :/

Also the magic of islands is that they are surrounded by shallow shores.most cable landing points actually have the cable hole drills km's out to see to minimize the amount of times it is hit..

This type of thing is life and not a big issue. I found it amazing just how many Americans first thought was that the whole think "must be terrorism".
#3.2 mocax on 14 Apr 2008 - 15:01
or make the cables thicker.
Like anchor-proof armor plates.

Then they can double as anchor points or navgating lines for lost ships.
#3.3 Nose Nuggets on 14 Apr 2008 - 16:13
(mocax said @ #3.2)
or make the cables thicker.
Like anchor-proof armor plates.

Then they can double as anchor points or navgating lines for lost ships.


they need maintenance. but even if that wasn't the case, creating a non corrosive metal casing that runs the length of the cable would be anything but cost effective considering the rarity of these types of events.
#3.4 LipSmacker on 15 Apr 2008 - 11:45
(bits said @ #3.1)
This type of thing is life and not a big issue. I found it amazing just how many Americans first thought was that the whole think "must be terrorism".


10 morons on this site throw the issue of terrorism out there to get a rise out of you and you find that amazing? Please.
(2 replies) #4 corona2k on 14 Apr 2008 - 15:05
so a ship's anchor was the cause of all this problem? And all this time i was convinced that it was some kind of CIA move to spy on everyone in the middle east. Wow, now i feel really stupid. I hope i never fall victim to my stupidity ever again.
#4.1 Kirkburn on 14 Apr 2008 - 15:35
(corona2k said @ #4)
so a ship's anchor was the cause of all this problem? And all this time i was convinced that it was some kind of CIA move to spy on everyone in the middle east. Wow, now i feel really stupid. I hope i never fall victim to my stupidity ever again.

Subtle, yet paranoid.
#4.2 Nose Nuggets on 14 Apr 2008 - 16:23
(corona2k said @ #4)
so a ship's anchor was the cause of all this problem? And all this time i was convinced that it was some kind of CIA move to spy on everyone in the middle east. Wow, now i feel really stupid. I hope i never fall victim to my stupidity ever again.


i dont think its a bad thing to think outside the box, and to take everything you hear with a grain of salt. however, if spying was there intent whos to say its this was not a success.
(2 replies) #5 abulfares on 14 Apr 2008 - 16:05
so this is finally the cover up story?

very creative CIA
#5.1 Nose Nuggets on 14 Apr 2008 - 16:19
(abulfares said @ #5)
so this is finally the cover up story?

very creative CIA


i would be lying if i didn't think the amount of cables severed in the time frame of this event did not sound fishy (pardon the pun) however, during this time and after i saw nothing regarding any events that took place in those regions that would require this as a prerequisite. on any established main stream media or otherwise.
#5.2 toadeater on 14 Apr 2008 - 23:59
(abulfares said @ #5)
so this is finally the cover up story?

very creative CIA


CIA or whoever, five cables cut in such a short time period, and in different locations was no accident. There is no doubt about that at least.

Such an operation would take high level knowledge and planning, it's not something a small group could do. Even if you had the ships (or subs), you need to know the location of the cables, and have the equipment to damage them.

Five cables cut? That's no accident, and it's not something civilians could do.
(1 reply) #6 schwit on 14 Apr 2008 - 16:21
"the state telecoms company asked ordinary users to stay offline".

'ordinary users' is what the Internet is for. Maybe if they asked people paying for the service(businesses and consumers) to refrain from frivolous usage that would be less condescending.
#6.1 Nose Nuggets on 14 Apr 2008 - 16:30
(schwit said @ #6)
"the state telecoms company asked ordinary users to stay offline".

'ordinary users' is what the Internet is for. Maybe if they asked people paying for the service(businesses and consumers) to refrain from frivolous usage that would be less condescending.


/palmface

are you implying that a telecom company calling your an ordinary user is condescending? even though, is the very same sentence you state clear as can be "'ordinary users' is what the Internet is for."

(1 reply) #7 schwit on 14 Apr 2008 - 17:13
My problem is the state treating the needs of the ordinary user as unimportant.
#7.1 Nose Nuggets on 14 Apr 2008 - 17:38
(schwit said @ #7)
My problem is the state treating the needs of the ordinary user as unimportant.


its not unimportant, or they wouldn't provide the service to begin with. its LESS important then state and government needs so they are asking (not telling, asking) the people who are using the services for leisure to limit or stop their usage so the very limited available bandwidth can be used by people who keep the country running.
#8 atari800 on 15 Apr 2008 - 23:29
Sounds like the beginning of a joke...
"Two sailors are morse coding each other between ships. One says 'hey, did you feel that?' The other goes 'yeah but I got a bigger problem, I was half way through downloading CLOVERFIELD and everything just stopped'"
ba-da-boom.....tisssssssssss

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